Kliavkoff (not a ballet dancer but the PAC commissioner) - Takes On the Big 12

WhosYourDawggy said:
Maybe I am wrong, but ASU seems to want to be a USC wanna be. They have a large SoCal population and I can see ASU thinking they are more SoCal cool than Texas country.
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It would be if ASU is talking cool as in “tourism” or “destinations” fo sho. I mean, would you rather visit Seattle or Stillwater? Boulder or Lubbock? Salt Lake City or Waco?
 
outofyourmind said:
Will the PAC require that a replacement team must bring $50 million dollars to the table per year to be considered ???
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Doubtful, then they will be like "I don't understand why we aren't getting paid yooo"
 
NU_FTW said:
They are aspiring to be cuck like after being left for better
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"You cheated, but I understand. Come back and everything will be fine". :pound:
 
outofyourmind said:
Will the PAC require that a replacement team must bring $50 million dollars to the table per year to be considered ???
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They cannot afford to. They are not getting $ 50 million a team. It is about survival now. Big12 likely is getting poached right now or in trouble if not for adding BYU, Cincinnati, and UCF (I still think the Houston add was a mistake). I think that this saved the Big12.

Pac12 is a lot like Big East in 2006 now. They need to face that. This is why Oregon and Washington might be better leaving the Pac12 and going independent. They can at least control their tv contracts and schedules.
 
Volbound1700 said:
They cannot afford to. They are not getting $ 50 million a team. It is about survival now. Big12 likely is getting poached right now or in trouble if not for adding BYU, Cincinnati, and UCF (I still think the Houston add was a mistake). I think that this saved the Big12.

Pac12 is a lot like Big East in 2006 now. They need to face that. This is why Oregon and Washington might be better leaving the Pac12 and going independent. They can at least control their tv contracts and schedules.
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Problem will be game timing if they have their own contracts with TV stations.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Pac12 needs to do what Big12 did last year to survive and go out and grab some decent teams. Problem is Big12 had an advantage of getting first picks and most of the stronger non-Power 5 teams were poached.

Two teams tend to stand out for Pac12: Boise State and San Diego State. Boise State won't be attractive due to academics. Once you get past those two, I guess your best bets would be Fresno State and Nevada (or UNLV). Fresno State doesn't seem that attractive because they are in Northern California which is already represented by Cal-Stanford duo.

UCLA and USC are going to be very DIFFICULT to replace. I still think Oregon and Washington would be better off going independent than staying in the Pac12.
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the difference being BigXII went down to 8. the Pac goes to 10. the Pac teams stand to make more per team at 10 than if they add anyone from the MWC. small chance they make more per team if they add 2 from the Big XII
 
Volbound1700 said:
Pac12 needs to do what Big12 did last year to survive and go out and grab some decent teams. Problem is Big12 had an advantage of getting first picks and most of the stronger non-Power 5 teams were poached.

Two teams tend to stand out for Pac12: Boise State and San Diego State. Boise State won't be attractive due to academics. Once you get past those two, I guess your best bets would be Fresno State and Nevada (or UNLV). Fresno State doesn't seem that attractive because they are in Northern California which is already represented by Cal-Stanford duo.

UCLA and USC are going to be very DIFFICULT to replace. I still think Oregon and Washington would be better off going independent than staying in the Pac12.
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Actually, Fresno is more Central California, which is pretty rural. They'd need a major upgrade to their facilities. There are bigger, nicer high school stadiums in Texas than Fresno has.
 
trojanfan12 said:
Actually, Fresno is more Central California, which is pretty rural. They'd need a major upgrade to their facilities. There are bigger, nicer high school stadiums in Texas than Fresno has.
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On the positive side for Fresno. They're fanbase is pretty dedicated and they are one of those Boise type teams that folks can get behind because they'll beat top teams if those teams overlook them. So they'd pick up some fans just off of that.
 
trojanfan12 said:
Actually, Fresno is more Central California, which is pretty rural. They'd need a major upgrade to their facilities. There are bigger, nicer high school stadiums in Texas than Fresno has.
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nicer maybe but not bigger.
 
PAC as a major P5 level conference is dead, Kevin Warren killed them when he said that the BIG may still be sniffing around even after getting SC and UCLA.
What school in the PAC is going to sign a GOR locking them in an inferior conference for who knows how long when the BIG commissioner has stated that they may be extending more invites soon?
I Guarantee you Washington, Stanford, and Oregon will have none of it.
 
trojanfan12 said:
On the positive side for Fresno. They're fanbase is pretty dedicated and they are one of those Boise type teams that folks can get behind because they'll beat top teams if those teams overlook them. So they'd pick up some fans just off of that.
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Did you just quote yourself?
 
OlyDuck said:
nicer maybe but not bigger.
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I don't know. Unless they've expanded...it ain't that big.

Just looked, it's capacity is about 40,000. That's not even as big as Autzen before they expanded in 2002.
 
A lot of stupid in this thread:

1. Boise State, SDS and Nevada do not = AZ, ASU, Utah and Colorado - just stop.
2. Ain't no one out there worth 50mm by themselves
3. Big 12 took Houston over other schools because of ratings. South Florida and Memphis probably blew this one because if they had put up enough numbers they would've had a shot. Houston pulled in a monster year for them and got the spot.
4. There is no "salvaging the PAC as they have been gutted and Oregon and Washington will flirt with whoever they can.

The best solution for CFB is for AZ, ASU, Colorado, Utah, Oregon, and Washington to join the B12. That would create the 4th best conference in the country and if the ACC gets cherry-picked like we all think they eventually will that will put them in the third spot. It's not a perfect solution for them but it's not a bad one and they should be able to strengthen their worth by the volume of content that networks need regardless.
 
OlyDuck said:
replacing USC and UCLA is different than replacing ASU, Arizona, Utah and Colorado.
lose the 4 corners and Boise, San Diego State, Fresno and Nevada could come in and the $ would be the same.
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lol, the PAC is DONE if they lose even two more schools let alone 4. Welcome conference buddy. (For now)
 
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