The "Done" Teams. Are They Really Done?

[trojanfan12]

I am going to defend trojanfan12 here, I don't think he is nut-swinging by arguing facts he disagrees with on a football game. I have been accused often in the past about it.

Naturally, we are going to watch the teams in our conference/teams we play. Tennessee fans keep up with teams on our schedule like Pittsburgh, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Kentucky, Vandy, Mizzou, etc. (maybe less so the Akrons and Ball States of the world). I am going to naturally have greater knowledge about SEC teams (especially SEC East teams) and I am going to comment on points that I disagree with and defend those points. That doesn't make me a nut-swinger and it doesn't make @trojanfan12 a nut swinger. That is one of the lamest insults used on this forum.

Exactly. It's not "nut swinging" to acknowledge that a good team is good.

I hate UCLA and want them to lose every game they play. But I can acknowledge that Chip Kelly seems to have them headed in the right direction. It just makes me throw up in my mouth a little when saying it. lol

 

[DayButtAssMans’s]

but then it becomes a conversation of whose loss was better or worse. no one else is going to be in the mix losing to a UGA caliber team. is it worse to lose to the # 1,2,3 team by 40 on the road or lose to a 7-5 team by 14 at home

Serious? 7-5 team obviously. That can be a fluke. Being absolutley pantsed the way oregon was is in no way a fluke.

 

[DayButtAssMans’s]

Whats the lowest ranked team to ever make it to the playoff? Sparty? I think they were ranked 12th to start that season. Anyone dip lower than that in a season and make the playoff?

Pretty sure UW started lower than that in ‘16.

 

[101stAB]

Pretty sure UW started lower than that in ‘16.

Yep. 14th in preseason.

 

[OlyDuck]

Serious? 7-5 team obviously. That can be a fluke. Being absolutley pantsed the way oregon was is in no way a fluke.

im confused by your answer

 

[trojanfan12]

but then it becomes a conversation of whose loss was better or worse. no one else is going to be in the mix losing to a UGA caliber team. is it worse to lose to the # 1,2,3 team by 40 on the road or lose to a 7-5 team by 14 at home

Georgia is the level of team that Oregon wants to be measured against/claims to be. It was a bit shocking to see them get dominated to the level that Georgia dominated them.

Meanwhile, a top team getting upset by some 7-5/8-4 level team happens enough that it isn't all that surprising.

So, I'd say that losing like that to Georgia is worse.

 

[Gatorchip]

I am going to defend trojanfan12 here,

Of course you will.

Do you realize that Vanderbilt has beaten Georgia more times in the past two decades than Tennessee has beaten Florida?

That’s how lopsided our rivalry is here. You’re like a mouse nipping at an elephant.

Trojanman wanted Utah to win so bad that he either ignored the rest of the game, or is lying and only watched the highlights. I’m leaning towards him lying.

 

[Volbound1700]

Of course you will.

Do you realize that Vanderbilt has beaten Georgia more times in the past two decades than Tennessee has beaten Florida?

That’s how lopsided our rivalry is here. You’re like a mouse nipping at an elephant.

Trojanman wanted Utah to win so bad that he either ignored the rest of the game, or is lying and only watched the highlights. I’m leaning towards him lying.

I agree Tennessee has mental issues with Florida but both have won 3 games in the span you are talking about. Vandy beat Georgia in 2006, 2013, and 2016

Tennessee beat Florida in 2003, 2004, and 2016.

 

[Gatorchip]

Exactly. It's not "nut swinging" to acknowledge that a good team is good.

That’s not the only thing you said.

You think Utah is good enough for the playoffs because one play didn’t go their way (while ignoring those that were successfully dumb luck), yet they just lost to a Florida a team you now hope can win 8 games to help out Utah.

Absolutely PAC homerisim. No doubt about it.

 

[Gatorchip]

Tennessee has mental issues

Agreed. They also smell funny.

 

[trojanfan12]

That’s not the only thing you said.

You think Utah is good enough for the playoffs because one play didn’t go their way (while ignoring those that were successfully dumb luck), yet they just lost to a Florida a team you now hope can win 8 games to help out Utah.

Absolutely PAC homerisim. No doubt about it.

Uh no, that's not what I said. You continue to show that you are the reason "Florida man" is a running joke on the interwebz.

 

[Red_Alert]

I'm not saying it's even common thought but a few idiots like OD types probably have that thinking in their head.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Oregon with 4 or even 5 losses at this point.

Yeah, I could see losses to half or more of these.
BYU, Stanford, @ Arizona, UCLA, @ Colorado (depending on first snow in Boulder), Washington, Utah, and @ Oregon St.

I'd say Eastern Washington, but I think they wear the lines down for a late game win a la Nebraska/North Dakota.

Average first snow in Boulder. Also the altitude element.

 

[Wizardhawk]

but then it becomes a conversation of whose loss was better or worse. no one else is going to be in the mix losing to a UGA caliber team. is it worse to lose to the # 1,2,3 team by 40 on the road or lose to a 7-5 team by 14 at home

So, Oregon should get in despite the fact we've already seen they are not at that level vs any other team with a blemish?

Everyone voting in that room will have seen how not ready for that level Oregon is. There were no signs on either side of the ball that they could play a team of that caliber.

 

[Gatorchip]

Uh no, that's not what I said. You continue to show that you are the reason "Florida man" is a running joke on the interwebz.

Sure it is. need me to quote you? And I live in Florida?

You can't stop fucking things up!

PAC PAC PAC!

 

[Gatorchip]

So, Oregon should get in despite the fact we've already seen they are not at that level vs any other team with a blemish?

Everyone voting in that room will have seen how not ready for that level Oregon is. There were no signs on either side of the ball that they could play a team of that caliber.

It was only a 46 point loss at a neutral site. They still have a chance!

 

[osubuckeye89]

So, Oregon should get in despite the fact we've already seen they are not at that level vs any other team with a blemish?

Everyone voting in that room will have seen how not ready for that level Oregon is. There were no signs on either side of the ball that they could play a team of that caliber.

Yea, gonna be hard to convince the committee to put them in unless they turn around and completely dominate the rest of the season or enough other teams lose twice to leave them no choice but to put them in.

I think this argument will end up being pointless though because IMO Oregon loses at minimum 2 more games.

 

[Red_Alert]

So, Oregon should get in despite the fact we've already seen they are not at that level vs any other team with a blemish?

Everyone voting in that room will have seen how not ready for that level Oregon is. There were no signs on either side of the ball that they could play a team of that caliber.

That's assuming Georgia had no drop-off in losing Lanning and the players to the NFL.

 

[trojanfan12]

Sure it is. need me to quote you? And I live in Florida?

You can't stop fucking things up!

PAC PAC PAC!

lol

Still flaunting that below room temperature IQ.

Just because you don't live in Florida, doesn't mean you're not Florida man level stupid.

Like I said, not a good look, but it's your look.

 

[osubuckeye89]

That's assuming Georgia had no drop-off in losing Lanning and the players to the NFL.

Didnt they lose 8 starters on defense? Or am I over inflating that number.

Obviously Georgia has elite talent to replace them but it was seemingly the first game as a starter for most of the defense.

Oregon looked absolutely hapless offensively, there was very little if any "positive" all game. They need to bench Nix right now and hope one of the young guys brings a spark.

 

[Gatorchip]

If USC is the "PACs only hope", then the PAC isn't getting in. Fortunately, they aren't.

I'd love them to prove me wrong, but USC doesn't have the depth to be a serious cfp threat yet. Especially on the O and D lines.

Yeah, I think they can win the PAC North. But I'm not sure they can beat whoever wins the South (likely Utah).