Frost fired

NewPhoneWhoDis said:
They won't even get to current Michigan because they can't recruit like Michigan either. Michigan recruiting classes are in the 5-15 range each year, with most in the 8-10 range. Nebraska's recruiting classes are in the 15-30+ range with most around 25ish. And the only reason they'd even have a shot to win their division is because they play in the division without any big time programs, so the talent level should be comparable there.

To put it in perspective how big of a disadvantage Nebraska's coaches are to even Michigan's coaches.

2012-2022 -- UM signed 86 guys who were top 200 recruits.
Nebraska signed 20 guys who were top 200 recruits.

If you move it to top 100 recruits -- the difference is even greater. But just to take the average that 6 extra top 200 recruits a year that coaching staff has to work with at UM.

The crazy part is -- the different in talent level between UM and Nebraska recruits is roughly the same between UM and OSU recruits. That is how enormous the difference is between a school that recruits top 5 and a school that recruits top 10 classes.
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lol

The right coach changes much of that. How many top level players do you think are choosing Bama without Nick Saban?

Sure, some schools have some built in advantages over other schools, but end of the day, the top recruits are choosing programs that they believe will get them to the NFL. So if they believe going to Nebraska will get them there, they'll go to Nebraska. Guys like Mark Stoops, Matt Rhule, etc. have that, Scott Frost didn't.

I don't know if someone like Stoops or Rhule could get them all the way back to what they were, but I'd bet they can get close enough to at least have them competing for the B1G title most years.
 
PnkPanther said:
Yes, but I think it's possible right coach could get them recruiting at that level once they establish some success


It wouldn't happen overnight
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NU_WTF? said:
LOL my point is if scUM can do it so can Nebraska. There is absolutely nothing special about scUM
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Yes, I think Nebbie has Michigan potential, but I think that is BEST case scenario


Michigan has a few advantages, they're in state that actually produces talent.
 
PnkPanther said:
Yes, I think Nebbie has Michigan potential, but I think that is BEST case scenario


Michigan has a few advantages, they're in state that actually produces talent.
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No more than they ever have, again nothing special.
 
PnkPanther said:
Yes, but I think it's possible right coach could get them recruiting at that level once they establish some success


It wouldn't happen overnight
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Maybe not overnight. But with the transfer portal, it could happen pretty quick.
 
trojanfan12 said:
lol

The right coach changes much of that. How many top level players do you think are choosing Bama without Nick Saban?

Sure, some schools have some built in advantages over other schools, but end of the day, the top recruits are choosing programs that they believe will get them to the NFL. So if they believe going to Nebraska will get them there, they'll go to Nebraska. Guys like Mark Stoops, Matt Rhule, etc. have that, Scott Frost didn't.

I don't know if someone like Stoops or Rhule could get them all the way back to what they were, but I'd bet they can get close enough to at least have them competing for the B1G title most years.
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I think a lot of top players are choosing Alabama without nick saban still...look how many kids still picked Mich, USC or Texas during all their coaching flailings. Nebraska hasn't been able to recruit well in the entirety of the recruiting rank era. I'm not sure they've had a single top 10 class, maybe 1? I think their peak now days is that of a Wisconsin, which I think Pelini had them at. Although, who knows in the era of NIL. If Nebraska alumni can pony up some corn money, they might be able to get into it. But it starts and ends with recruiting and so far in the last two decades they haven't even been close to other programs.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I think a lot of top players are choosing Alabama without nick saban still...look how many kids still picked Mich, USC or Texas during all their coaching flailings. Nebraska hasn't been able to recruit well in the entirety of the recruiting rank era. I'm not sure they've had a single top 10 class, maybe 1? I think their peak now days is that of a Wisconsin, which I think Pelini had them at. Although, who knows in the era of NIL. If Nebraska alumni can pony up some corn money, they might be able to get into it. But it starts and ends with recruiting and so far in the last two decades they haven't even been close to other programs.
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You and TMIAR need to go get a room at disney land. Keep living in fantasy land. You're both clueless
 
NU_WTF? said:
No more than they ever have, again nothing special.
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I actually think the state has been producing less in the last few decades, more people have moved from the midwest south. But we also have Ohio and Illinois which has historically produced a lot of our talent. Nebraska doesn't have anything like that in the center of the US.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I actually think the state has been producing less in the last few decades, more people have moved from the midwest south. But we also have Ohio and Illinois which has historically produced a lot of our talent. Nebraska doesn't have anything like that in the center of the US.
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There is absolutely no reason Nebraska cant be as good or better than Michigan, ZERO. It is only those who love to hate nebraska and HOPE that Nebraska never gets back up off the mat, that actually believe their nonsense they spout (You, TMIAR)
 
NU_WTF? said:
You and TMIAR need to go get a room at disney land. Keep living in fantasy land. You're both clueless
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Nothing I've said was fantasy. In the recruiting rank era, Nebraska had 1 single top 10 class (2005) and 1 single top 15 class. They've only had 4 classes rank in the top 20 since recruiting classes started in 2000. Michigan's class in Rich Rod's last season, when hope was at an all time low around here, would have been one of the 5 best classes Nebraska has ever hauled in, in this century. So there clearly is something different; my guess (and it's just that) is that its' financial. When it comes down to it, modern football is run by money and Nebraska has less of it than other programs. Nebraska's finances are more similar to programs like Wisconsin, Iowa and Michigan State; and that's about where I'd put them now days in terms of capping their capacity of success.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Nothing I've said was fantasy. In the recruiting rank era, Nebraska had 1 single top 10 class (2005) and 1 single top 15 class. They've only had 4 classes rank in the top 20 since recruiting classes started in 2000. Michigan's class in Rich Rod's last season, when hope was at an all time low around here, would have been one of the 5 best classes Nebraska has ever hauled in, in this century. So there clearly is something different; my guess (and it's just that) is that its' financial. When it comes down to it, modern football is run by money and Nebraska has less of it than other programs. Nebraska's finances are more similar to programs like Wisconsin, Iowa and Michigan State; and that's about where I'd put them now days in terms of capping their capacity of success.
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bla bla bla not reading a wall of text from someone who doesnt know anything about football
 
Huskers4me said:
A real blow-viater, beat the Buckeyes once this century and this Meatchicken homer thinks their the kings of the pigskin.
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Yea, they think they are hiding their contempt for Nebraska behind all their walls of text, just more nonsense they like to make up to try and stand on their soap box longer.
 
NU_WTF? said:
bla bla bla not reading a wall of text from someone who doesnt know anything about football
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I would argue someone who thinks a team who's never been able to recruit top 10 classes, who ranks 15-20 in finances, that exists in the middle of the country surrounded by corn, has a legitimate chance to turn back into a yearly contender is, at best, blinded by their own bias. I know you hate Pelini but he was, for a second there, pumping out contenders for conference championships and in the national conversation a bit. And even with that success, Nebraska couldn't pull in recruits.

I know you want to believe it's possible, but the road to even matching the minimal success Michigan has had would require Nebraska starting to recruit like they have never been able to do before.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I would argue someone who thinks a team who's never been able to recruit top 10 classes, who ranks 15-20 in finances, that exists in the middle of the country surrounded by corn, has a legitimate chance to turn back into a yearly contender is, at best, blinded by their own bias. I know you hate Pelini but he was, for a second there, pumping out contenders for conference championships and in the national conversation a bit. And even with that success, Nebraska couldn't pull in recruits.

I know you want to believe it's possible, but the road to even matching the minimal success Michigan has had would require Nebraska starting to recruit like they have never been able to do before.
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bla bla bla, seriously walls of text just to try and hush your insecurities, you're transparent.
 
NU_WTF? said:
bla bla bla, seriously walls of text just to try and hush your insecurities, you're transparent.
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So let's rephrase this. Do you think Michigan State has a legit chance at becoming a national contender every year; matching the likes of Alabama or Ohio State?
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
So let's rephrase this. Do you think Michigan State has a legit chance at becoming a national contender every year; matching the likes of Alabama or Ohio State?
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Michigan State has never been on par with Nebraska. Michigan State is not a blueblood. Michigan state has no Name recognition remotely close to Nebraska.

More derp out of Michigan thinking they are special. You all crack me up
 
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