If you were on the playoff committee, what four teams would you vote for?

Bayou Tiger said:
Bama lost to Tennessee and LSU. Tennessee probably has a better shot at getting in than Bama since they beat Bama.
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Logically yes. But without Hooker that has to be a factor.
 
Ok. So I was just thinking. TCU was ranked 3rd. Not a major brand. Then ya got Saban lobbying last night. Ohio State losing one game ugly at home, just one loss. Alabama losing super close twice and both losses away. I could see Southern Cal out of course. I could see TCU going down to 5th and Ohio State and Bama making it in. The two loss thing might not be an issue.

Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama
 
Volbound1700 said:
There are two reasons Alabama is a head of Tennessee:

1. Hendon Hooker getting hurt
2. How bad Tennessee lost to South Carolina. If game was closer, I think we would have a better argument.
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This was my thoughts when someone says Tennessee. Tennessee is not the same team that won all those games. Hooker was a big part of that, and he is gone now. The loss to SC is a big one also. That was a major beat down by a team that prior to that game had not really shown much of a pulse other than brief glimpses against no one in particular. The last two games they showed they might have found a formula.

Honestly I am not stumping for Bama as I dont think they can stand with any top tier team this year, but I will also say that Saban does have a way to motivate his team prior to big games to play great football when its needed. That would be my only thought on them, but I dont think Bama is a top 4 team IMO. I honestly dont think it matters who you put in, Georgia is playing lights out right now and Kirby has managed to pull his team together at the right time gain. They looked beatable early on, but now it will take a monumental effort to derail that team.
 
stakesarehigh said:
That's not how teams should be ranked. As it is wildly subjective.

Regardless given LSU got beat by 20 and now have 4 losses there were no results yesterday that would have helped Alabama. OSU got a small boost with Toledo winning and Michigan holding serve.

Ohio State and TCU are still ahead in the Massey composite (OSU is 3rd) so there is zero reason for Bama to jump OSU. It would be a travesty. If the committee felt like Bama should've been ahead they should've done it last week
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I absolutely agree that is not how teams should be ranked. They also shouldn't be ranked according to names on jerseys but the committee has been known to do that as well.

I don't think Bama should jump them either. Of all the teams still "standing" for lack of a better term, it is just my opinion that Bama would have the best shot at beating Georgia. Again, I don't think they should be in only for that reason.
 
BandwagonBo2 said:
This was my thoughts when someone says Tennessee. Tennessee is not the same team that wont all those games. Hooker was a big part of that, and he is gone now. The loss to SC is a big one also. That was a major beat down by a team that prior to that game had not really shown much of a pulse other than brief glimpses against no one in particular. The last two games they showed they might have found formula.

Honestly I am not stumping for Bama as I dont think they can stand with any top tier team this year, but I will also say that Saban does have a way to motivate his team prior to big games to play great football when its needed. That would be my only thought on them, but I dont think Bama is a top 4 team IMO. I honestly dont think it matters who you put in, Georgia is playing lights out right now and Kirby has managed to pull his team together at the right time gain. They looked beatable early on, but now it will take a monumental effort to derail that team.
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It did look like LSU was able to move the ball well but those 2 fluke plays In the first half killed them
 
Collegefbfan said:
Yeah. The deal to me is this: Alabama and Ohio State were sitting around while the CCG were being played. Buckeyes are 5th right now. Bama is 6th. So, in some way in the CFP, Bama jumps Ohio State… how? They both didn’t take the field this past weekend. They both have the same number of wins and losses they did after last week’s games finished. What Michigan did on the field yesterday change the Buckeyes ranking? What LSU did in the field yesterday change Alabama’s ranking?
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That's one of the faults in the CFP system for sure.
 
jjc2009 said:
I don’t understand #1. You should be ranked on how you have performed, not a future forecast of how you will perform because your star player is hurt.

Now # 2 on the other hand …
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They should just apply a conferences own tie-breaker rules when comparing teams with identical records, if they are in the same conference. H2H ranks pretty highly in the SEC. How bad one of your losses isn't a consideration in the event of a tie breaker in the SEC. Is it anywhere other than peoples perception?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think any team giving up 50+ is a real playoff caliber team, nor a team that loses by 3+ scores. I just like to factor out the eye test and perception elements as much as possible.

SEC Tiebreakers:

  1. Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams.
  2. Record of the tied teams within the division.
  3. Head-to-head competition against the team within the division with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non divisional) and proceeding through the division (multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last and a tie for first place will be broken before a tie for fourth place).
  4. Overall conference record against non divisional teams.
  5. Combined record against all common non divisional teams.
  6. Record against the common non divisional team with the best overall conference record (divisional and non divisional) and proceeding through other common non divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division; and
  7. Best cumulative Conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents (Note: If two teams' non-divisional opponents have the same cumulative record, then the two-team tiebreaker procedures apply. If four teams are tied and three teams' non-divisional opponents have the same cumulative record, the three-team tiebreaker procedures will be used beginning with 2.A.)
  8. Coin flip of the tied teams with the team with the odd result being the representative (Example: If there are two teams with tails and one team with heads, the team with heads is the representative).
 
Volbound1700 said:
There are two reasons Alabama is a head of Tennessee:

1. Hendon Hooker getting hurt
2. How bad Tennessee lost to South Carolina. If game was closer, I think we would have a better argument.
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Well if we are not going strictly by wins and losses and I mean counting them...not "evaluating" the wins and losses, then that changes everything.

But strictly using number of wins and losses and considering the head to head matchup between the two and Tenn looks to have had a better season than Bama.

Tennessee lost to South Carolina. The only other loss on Tenn. record is to Georgia.

Bama beat who exactly to earn so much love?

Not one team with more than 8 wins. They lost to the teams that won more than 8 games. haha
 
Volbound1700 said:
Alabama fans and Saban are using the "quality loss" argument 😆.
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their losses are more impressive than their wins, tbh.

their best win is against Texas. Texas is TCU's second best win. Alabama has zero argument over TCU, but we'll see what happens.

TCU: two top 25 wins, loss to top ten K-State; no conference title
Alabama: two top 25 wins, loss to top ten Tennessee and top 25 LSU; no conference title

fwiw, in 2014:

Heading into bowl season:

TCU had 3 top 25 wins (Minnesota dropped out after bowl season) and a loss #5 Baylor; no conference title and Big 12 tried to play the co-champions card w/ their two playoff contenders
Ohio State had 3 top 25 wins (Minnesota again..) and a loss to 7-6 Virginia Tech in September; Won Big Ten Championship

in 2014 TCU had the better loss, but Ohio State had the winning streak and the conference title.
this year...Alabama literally has nothing over TCU.
 
stakesarehigh said:
It did look like LSU was able to move the ball well but those 2 fluke plays In the first half killed them
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Saban has always had trouble with mobile QB's. His defensive style is not to contain but to stop the run and play more zone in passing downs. I am praying for a maybe a New Years 6 bowl and see if we can shed a DC and OC by years end. I sent a letter to Santa to see if we can get this to happen :biggrin:
 
I also wonder if the committee will use the point: TCU and Alabama both played Texas. TCU won by a larger margin. We shall see in a few moments.
 
Shanemansj13 said:
Playcalling was atrocious. Didn’t have their top 2 RB, top WR. They were awful in the RZ and the DC changed schemes and made zero adjustments at half.
The part I don’t get is why you don’t make adjustments at half.
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Yea I'm not gonna use not having JSN as an excuse but not having an explosive back to catch the ball was pretty harmful. And while Traynum did well all things considered he is certainly no Henderson or Williams.

I was a little surprised Hayden didn't get more run considering he looked very good the week before.
 
Collegefbfan said:
I also wonder if the committee will use the point: TCU and Alabama both played Texas. TCU won by a larger margin. We shall see in a few moments.
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And Texas likely would've beat them had Ewers not gotten hurt.
 
1) Georgia
2) Michigan
3) Ohio State
4) TCU

Saban lobbying because he went 3-0 in last 3 games. Including one over a great college football power Austin urine Pee (who?). Saban thinks the last 3 games mean more than all 13? Also, whined 1 loss was when Bryce Young was hurt. By that logic USC should go through since Caleb got hurt around the time USC was leading 17-3 over Utah. It would be a travesty if Alabama got in over TCU who went 12-0 and lose in OT in their last game #10 Kansas State.
 
Bayou Tiger said:
Well if we are not going strictly by wins and losses and I mean counting them...not "evaluating" the wins and losses, then that changes everything.

But strictly using number of wins and losses and considering the head to head matchup between the two and Tenn looks to have had a better season than Bama.

Tennessee lost to South Carolina. The only other loss on Tenn. record is to Georgia.

Bama beat who exactly to earn so much love?

Not one team with more than 8 wins. They lost to the teams that won more than 8 games. haha
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Tennessee has one of the best resume in the nation when it comes to quality wins. That is why they were #1 in the first CFP Playoffs. Tennessee had both Alabama and Georgia but also got LSU so basically they had to play the other top 3 SEC teams. It was the luck (or unlucky) draw we get with our scheduling and we have had a lot of bad luck. I would put Tennessee's SOS up against any of the playoff contenders.

That being said, we laid an egg at South Carolina. Win that game, we are in.
 
All of the media I am reading on my phone says
Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, TCU.

CFP shocks us and puts in Alabama?
 
UGA
Mich
OSU
TCU

Only way to ensure no B1G-only NCG. That would mean an UGA-Mich NCG and an UGA natty.
 
Sorry to keep harping on it but even looking at Pittsburgh, they went 8-4 but they were leading in all 4 of their losses going into the 4th quarter. Change a few plays for them and they are 12-0 (even beating Tennessee).

They really should have beaten Georgia Tech and North Carolina and won the division. They also had 3 late turnovers in the 4th quarter at Louisville that cost them that game.

That was a decent OOC win for Tennessee.
 
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