NCAA24 Boycott

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Players passing on the easiest $500 someone can get while EA continue to sell millions of copies with or without their names on the roster
 
TaikoTiger said:
Players passing on the easiest $500 someone can get while EA continue to sell millions of copies with or without their names on the roster
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I don't disagree with you, but you never accept the first offer. Keep holding out while they keep adding names and likenesses and you can easily see the college players getting much more than $500. There are a LOT more CFB players than NFL players so CFB won't ever get what NFL players get, but I don't think $5k per player would be unfair.
 
Quick math based on a single google result on # of CFB players:
D1 = 15,167
D2 = 18,889
D3 = 25,709
source: how many college football players are there - GameDay Culture


I doubt many are buying the game to play as D2 and even fewer to play as D3. So I could see something like $3k for D1, $1k for D2, and $500 for D3.

EA would be on the hook to pay out about $75m under those numbers if they got every player onboard.

Here is an old study, but still seems like relevant numbers, on what revenue could look like for a CFB game with players
saturdayblitz.com

SMQ: A win-win-win plan to relaunch EA Sports NCAA Football

The last edition of EA Sports NCAA Football was released seven years ago. With the coronavirus threatening the 2020 season, how can we bring the game back?
saturdayblitz.com saturdayblitz.com

Probably need to adjust the D1 number down by about half, but there is a pathway here for the players and EA to make a ton of money. In the first year alone the sales would be through the roof. Only diehard video game fans buy every iteration of the EA franchises because they are mostly the same game.
 
The payout amount should be based on the contribution and popularity of said athlete. Not an across the board $500.

However, I can see $500 being the minimum amount to have your name available on your team's EA roster.
 
Red_Alert said:
The payout amount should be based on the contribution and popularity of said athlete. Not an across the board $500.

However, I can see $500 being the minimum amount to have your name available on your team's EA roster.
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Going to be difficult to work that many individual deals. Maybe the conferences or schools can handle it and then decide who gets what. Just make sure the contract is signed that 100% of the payout from EA to school/conf has to be paid directly to players. Probably best handled at the school level.
 
fordman84 said:
Quick math based on a single google result on # of CFB players:
D1 = 15,167
D2 = 18,889
D3 = 25,709
source: how many college football players are there - GameDay Culture


I doubt many are buying the game to play as D2 and even fewer to play as D3. So I could see something like $3k for D1, $1k for D2, and $500 for D3.

EA would be on the hook to pay out about $75m under those numbers if they got every player onboard.

Here is an old study, but still seems like relevant numbers, on what revenue could look like for a CFB game with players
saturdayblitz.com

SMQ: A win-win-win plan to relaunch EA Sports NCAA Football

The last edition of EA Sports NCAA Football was released seven years ago. With the coronavirus threatening the 2020 season, how can we bring the game back?
saturdayblitz.com saturdayblitz.com

Probably need to adjust the D1 number down by about half, but there is a pathway here for the players and EA to make a ton of money. In the first year alone the sales would be through the roof. Only diehard video game fans buy every iteration of the EA franchises because they are mostly the same game.
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I didn't know EA had D2 and D3 teams available on their video game.

At $500 per player that would be $29,882,500.

In 2014 there were appx 1 million copies sold. iirc they were about $45 per disk. So their gross sales were $45,000,000 then.
Not much profit when you consider their net gain and paying players of all levels of CFB $500 each.

If they just stick to D1 that would be $7.5 million at $500 each.
 
fordman84 said:
Going to be difficult to work that many individual deals. Maybe the conferences or schools can handle it and then decide who gets what. Just make sure the contract is signed that 100% of the payout from EA to school/conf has to be paid directly to players. Probably best handled at the school level.
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Not sure the schools can be involved in NIL deals.
 
Red_Alert said:
I didn't know EA had D2 and D3 teams available on their video game.

At $500 per player that would be $29,882,500.

In 2014 there were appx 1 million copies sold. iirc they were about $45 per disk. So their gross sales were $45,000,000 then.
Not much profit when you consider their net gain and paying players of all levels of CFB $500 each.

If they just stick to D1 that would be $7.5 million at $500 each.
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Maybe D2 and D3 aren't there, and if they are would be smartest to just use fake names and likeness for those kids. But I also think the video game market has exploded since 2014. Average PS5 game feels like it is $70 now, and they would likely presale 2m just based on how these EA games go.
 
Red_Alert said:
Not sure the schools can be involved in NIL deals.
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True, that would need a carve out. Just trying to figure out a way EA doesn't need to get individual deals with all players, or even just the top 1000.
 
fordman84 said:
I don't disagree with you, but you never accept the first offer. Keep holding out while they keep adding names and likenesses and you can easily see the college players getting much more than $500. There are a LOT more CFB players than NFL players so CFB won't ever get what NFL players get, but I don't think $5k per player would be unfair.
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Interesting how that would play out if CFBA said No. Knowing EA, they penny-pinch everything. Could they go back to the good ole days of just labeling players as RB#25, giving them a generic model or is that not allowed?
 
fordman84 said:
Maybe D2 and D3 aren't there, and if they are would be smartest to just use fake names and likeness for those kids. But I also think the video game market has exploded since 2014. Average PS5 game feels like it is $70 now, and they would likely presale 2m just based on how these EA games go.
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They weren't.

I'm not a gamer so I don't know current pricing. I remember buying it for my boy back then and paying around $45.
I can believe an average game is $70 now.


That 2014 disk is still in my boy's room with his xBox 360. I can probably get what I paid for it if I sold it now.
 
fordman84 said:
Maybe D2 and D3 aren't there, and if they are would be smartest to just use fake names and likeness for those kids. But I also think the video game market has exploded since 2014. Average PS5 game feels like it is $70 now, and they would likely presale 2m just based on how these EA games go.
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Also EA / Madden makes most of it's money off of Ultimate/Fantasy Mode. For Ultimate to work out in NCAA, EA definitely needs to make sure to get the bigger names on board.
 
Red_Alert said:
They weren't.

I'm not a gamer so I don't know current pricing. I remember buying it for my boy back then and paying around $45.
I can believe an average game is $70 now.


That 2014 disk is still in my boy's room with his xBox 360. I can probably get what I paid for it if I sold it now.
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I can take that off your hands if you want? :pray:

It's also worth over $100 today since it's the last game and ppl have mod the game better than anything EA can put together
 
Saw this coming a mile away. It's nice they can get some money, but give them a inch and they'll try to take a mile.

Should EVERY player get a comically high amount of money? Or just the popular ones? Why should 3rd string backups get the same pay as starters? All kinds of schematics here.
 
fordman84 said:
Maybe D2 and D3 aren't there, and if they are would be smartest to just use fake names and likeness for those kids. But I also think the video game market has exploded since 2014. Average PS5 game feels like it is $70 now, and they would likely presale 2m just based on how these EA games go.
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Would have to use fake names and allow zero roster customization though.

That's one of the big beefs, especially in a world now where you can easily share and upload custom rosters online. They say people get them to where they are close enough to the actual likeness while using their real names. Which could not be allowed or EA would get sued some more.
 
i don't care.. if they boycott, pay the ones who cross over.. and release the game.. Seriously..we don't care. Give is the stadiums, uniforms and fight songs of our schools..
 
Only reason I still had a console until 2014 was because of the NCAA game. The only game I even played anymore.

This is why I have't bothered getting a PS4 or PS5.

I've played Madden with friends though, and I think it's horrible. The big worry for me is that they create the new NCAA game just like Madden is now and it's just awful.
 
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