A day may come when the courage of men fails, but it is not this day

We go through the Biden Criminal Family Inc. and it come back to us as a loan repayment. 🤣
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Hell yeah Vandy was doing it. I am an Insider at Vandy, so I would know. Seriously, yes, Vandy was paying players. As others have pointed out, they stretched what they can do as a private school in baseball. So, yes, Vandy and every other team including you cheaters were paying players.

The difference is that my team already paid our price for cheating - I've said this a dozen times already. Your team on the other hand is just now getting the ban hammer, and will be getting more in the future.
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GTFOH --so they banned advanced scouting because teams couldn't afford to send scouts, but EVERYONE was paying players. What is your favorite phrase? Deflect, deflect, deflect............Cheater.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
lmaaaaaaaaaaaao yea he didn't file any official reports to get paid by the school. That TOTALLY PROVES it! No way at all he coulda been funded off the books!
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So the guy who used his public Venmo without any kind of codes, used his personal cards and ticket accounts….decided this was the part he’d try and cover up?
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
So the guy who used his public Venmo without any kind of codes, used his personal cards and ticket accounts….decided this was the part he’d try and cover up?
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No bozo. The university/coaches are smart enough to tell him "nah we aren't putting this on our books"
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I mean it would take a retarded person to believe that "nobody knew what he was doing" so i'm not shocked here.
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lol. It would take a retarded person to not see all this stuff and conclude anything other than no one else knew this nonsensical operation was happening.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Exactly.

That really means absolutely nothing. The money coulda easily been funneled trough people involved with the school without it being directly tied to the school financially. It's not shocking at all that Michigan wasn't dumb enough to pay Stallions for his adventures on their books. Stallions sketchy LLC ventures are a perfect cover for distributing money to him.
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Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? If Michigan was going to go to the length of funneling money thru 3rd parties to pay Stallions, don't you think they would have DONE THE SAME THING TO PURCHASE THE TICKETS!!!! :facepalm:

My lord -- OSU fans want this so badly to be some huge scheme from the top -- they put aside all logic to try and make it fit the narrative. Use some common sense.
 
cwerph said:
LOL @ people who think that if Harbaugh didn't know it means he is in the clear.
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I've told MnB 100 times that there is no plausible deniability anymore and Michigan is getting some form of punishment. He refuses to believe.

All the investigation is for is to decide what the penalty will be. If it went beyond Stallions it could be harsh. If it didn't, it could be a slap on the wrist.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
I've told MnB 100 times that there is no plausible deniability anymore and Michigan is getting some form of punishment. He refuses to believe.

All the investigation is for is to decide what the penalty will be. If it went beyond Stallions it could be harsh. If it didn't, it could be a slap on the wrist.
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I really don't care what the punishment is. Forever, they will be known as cheating ass cheaters.

Whenever some Michigan fan winds up the holier than thou attitude, that's all the response that's needed.

I will say this - if there was ever a case for vacating wins, this is it.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
I've told MnB 100 times that there is no plausible deniability anymore and Michigan is getting some form of punishment. He refuses to believe.

All the investigation is for is to decide what the penalty will be. If it went beyond Stallions it could be harsh. If it didn't, it could be a slap on the wrist.
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I don't disagree. Stallions did some things. But I think people are confused about the term "punishment". The NCAA doesn't necessarily punish the institution in instances like this. They MAY. We don't even know what level of violation occurred. The NCAA doesn't typically punish schools for 2nd and 3rd level violations (for instance).

As the picture becomes clearer, I think it distances the institution from the actions of an individual. Unless something earth shattering comes out of the investigation, I think Stallions himself is more likely to receive a stiff punishment from the NCAA than the institution (or Harbaugh) is from the NCAA.
 
cwerph said:
I really don't care what the punishment is. Forever, they will be known as cheating ass cheaters.

Whenever some Michigan fan winds up the holier than thou attitude, that's all the response that's needed.

I will say this - if there was ever a case for vacating wins, this is it.
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lol. I love that Ohio State fans have been reduced to justifying their suck like this.

This is only a case to vacate wins because you've been owed. What was done was a shortcut to gaining the same information everyone already has.

Michigan is America's team, apparently you hate America.
 
cwerph said:
I really don't care what the punishment is. Forever, they will be known as cheating ass cheaters.

Whenever some Michigan fan winds up the holier than thou attitude, that's all the response that's needed.

I will say this - if there was ever a case for vacating wins, this is it.
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Who cares? Every team in CFB who are any good are cheating ass cheaters as you put it. The only teams not cheating in some form are the teams who have no chance to win whether they cheat or they don't.

It won't shut up the holier than thou UM fans, especially if it this goes as I expect it to. Unless there is a ton of stuff unreported -- no coach knew about this, as he continued using personal credit cards and public venmos. If they had any clue -- that would have been stopped immediately.

That said -- Michigan is still get punished one way or the other.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I don't disagree. Stallions did some things. But I think people are confused about the term "punishment". The NCAA doesn't necessarily punish the institution in instances like this. They MAY. We don't even know what level of violation occurred. The NCAA doesn't typically punish schools for 2nd and 3rd level violations (for instance).

As the picture becomes clearer, I think it distances the institution from the actions of an individual. Unless something earth shattering comes out of the investigation, I think Stallions himself is more likely to receive a stiff punishment from the NCAA than the institution (or Harbaugh) is from the NCAA.
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If you repeat your lies long enough, stupid Michigan fans will believe them, but no one else is fooled.
 
cwerph said:
If you repeat your lies long enough, stupid Michigan fans will believe them, but no one else is fooled.
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lol, what lies?
 
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MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
lol, what lies?
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"The same information everyone else has".

Bullshit.

Compared to the Bentley Michigan was driving, the teams they were competing against were driving Yugo's.

If you claim everyone else has multiple laminated pages of signs from the other team on the first drive of the game, you have to be trolling.
 
cwerph said:
"The same information everyone else has".

Bullshit.

Compared to the Bentley Michigan was driving, the teams they were competing against were driving Yugo's.

If you claim everyone else has multiple laminated pages of signs from the other team on the first drive of the game, you have to be trolling.
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Michigan provided them. We've seen them. This is a sample of what OSU had. Wonder how they got snaps of the scoreboard? huh? Weird....


There is no evidence that this is connected or known by Harbaugh. There's no evidence that this is connected to any staff members (non-analysts). Only 1 individual has been suspended after weeks of investigations. The more that comes out the more this links directly to 1 individual doing weird things. We don't even know how the NCAA categorizes this, if a violation at all.

So if it is a violation and if it is a level 1 violation, Stallions is almost certainly getting a show-cause. What Michigan gets is TBT. I think the "punishment" against the institution will be minimal and most will be focused on the violator (Stallions).
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
There is no evidence that this is connected or known by Harbaugh. There's no evidence that this is connected to any staff members (non-analysts). Only 1 individual has been suspended after weeks of investigations. The more that comes out the more this links directly to 1 individual doing weird things. We don't even know how the NCAA categorizes this, if a violation at all.

So if it is a violation and if it is a level 1 violation, Stallions is almost certainly getting a show-cause. What Michigan gets is TBT. I think the "punishment" against the institution will be minimal and most will be focused on the violator (Stallions).
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Harbaugh is responsible for everything within the program, so he "should have known", hence the penalty.

If it turns out he did know, then expect heavier penalties to come.
 
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