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If Penn St were in the western division they would be in the B1G championship game pretty much every year. They will lose that game to either Ohio St or whoever from the east but the Indiana or Purdue's of the world would love to have thatThey are still a damn good team. Yes they don’t beat you guys and struggled with UM under Franklin but they are literally beating everyone else and win bowl games. They almost assuredly will make the playoffs this year with likely one regular season loss.