The B10's Weaponization of clean cash is shifting power dynamics from south to north

fordman84 said:
And this year proved it wasn't the paying of players that helped Michigan win. It was the illegal advanced scouting. This year the players still got paid, but did much worse.
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lol, right.

Because losing an entire team to the NFL, and an entire coaching staff, had nothing to do with it.
 
fordman84 said:
Interesting that a decade of an SEC team playing for the Natty was a "statistical anomaly" but a single year without them means the "bookend of SEC dominance".
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No question the last couple years marked a shift north. And you could see that in the competitiveness of the SEC this year. Hell, even Notre Dame got in on the action. It's also no wonder Texas was able to get good very quickly in the NIL world and dominate the SEC in year 1.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
No question the last couple years marked a shift north. And you could see that in the competitiveness of the SEC this year. Hell, even Notre Dame got in on the action. It's also no wonder Texas was able to get good very quickly in the NIL world and dominate the SEC in year 1.
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Very coincidental that the "SEC dominance" diminished when everyone was allowed to start paying players.
 
fordman84 said:
Interesting that a decade of an SEC team playing for the Natty was a "statistical anomaly" but a single year without them means the "bookend of SEC dominance".
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* 2 years. But your larger point stands.
 
I think the Saban era coming to an end is playing a part in this. 2020 Bama was a juggernaut, then he lost 2 games a season for his final 3 seasons (something he had never done), and then obviously this year was a relative disaster for Bama (first single digit win season in over 15 years).

As myself and many others predicted, BK at LSU is an awful fit. Lane at Ole Miss is still wildly inconsistent. A&M still clearly has a ways to go. Tennessee may have hit their peak. That leaves Texas and Georgia as the only true NC contenders in the conference right now. It's still an extremely deep and competitive conference, and I'm sure they'll produce another national champ soon, but it's not the juggernaut it was. This isn't even a dig at the conference, it just is what it is.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
lol, right.

Because losing an entire team to the NFL, and an entire coaching staff, had nothing to do with it.
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The article is talking about a war chest to buy top talent. If you have a war chest but aren't getting depth of talent, then good luck having a run like the SEC has had recently.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
No question the last couple years marked a shift north. And you could see that in the competitiveness of the SEC this year. Hell, even Notre Dame got in on the action. It's also no wonder Texas was able to get good very quickly in the NIL world and dominate the SEC in year 1.
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Jexas had a historically easy schedule, and exposed when they played talented teams.
 
fordman84 said:
The article is talking about a war chest to buy top talent. If you have a war chest but aren't getting depth of talent, then good luck having a run like the SEC has had recently.
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I don't see any conference going on that kind of run in the new era of CFB. NIL + portal has brought parity that we haven't seen in ages.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Very coincidental that the "SEC dominance" diminished when everyone was allowed to start paying players.
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again, did it diminish? Is a decade an "outlier" and a single year is "the new norm"?
 
Across The Field said:
I think the Saban era coming to an end is playing a part in this. 2020 Bama was a juggernaut, then he lost 2 games a season for his final 3 seasons (something he had never done), and then obviously this year was a relative disaster for Bama (first single digit win season in over 15 years).

As myself and many others predicted, BK at LSU is an awful fit. Lane at Ole Miss is still wildly inconsistent. A&M still clearly has a ways to go. Tennessee may have hit their peak. That leaves Texas and Georgia as the only true NC contenders in the conference right now. It's still an extremely deep and competitive conference, and I'm sure they'll produce another national champ soon, but it's not the juggernaut it was. This isn't even a dig at the conference, it just is what it is.
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ESPN having a big chunk of a monopoly on college football helps ruin college football, it's literally their job and financial interest to make the SEC look the best they can, even when it's not. Look at their joke ass FPI shit that they use to form their beloved SOS rankings they love to jerk off over for the SEC. Every SEC team but Miss State in the top 50 and 4-8 Kentucky is ahead of like 8 10+ win teams. Not to mention teams like Auburn and Oklahoma hovering very close to the top 25.
 
Across The Field said:
I think the Saban era coming to an end is playing a part in this. 2020 Bama was a juggernaut, then he lost 2 games a season for his final 3 seasons (something he had never done), and then obviously this year was a relative disaster for Bama (first single digit win season in over 15 years).

As myself and many others predicted, BK at LSU is an awful fit. Lane at Ole Miss is still wildly inconsistent. A&M still clearly has a ways to go. Tennessee may have hit their peak. That leaves Texas and Georgia as the only true NC contenders in the conference right now. It's still an extremely deep and competitive conference, and I'm sure they'll produce another national champ soon, but it's not the juggernaut it was. This isn't even a dig at the conference, it just is what it is.
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I definitely agree NIL has leveled the playing field, talent is chasing the money as much as they are chasing the ring (and under the table money). All the top NIL schools right now have been paying players under the table, but now that the numbers are in the open that has created an arms-race.
 
Come on guys, we can't forget who won and who lost the very last BCS championship game. We can't forget who won the very first 4-team playoff championship over who, can we? We can't forget who won the last 4-team playoff championship, can we? Who is and who isn't playing in this first 12-team playoff championship? Damn, for all things that are holy, I hope I am doing this right...
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
No question the last couple years marked a shift north. And you could see that in the competitiveness of the SEC this year. Hell, even Notre Dame got in on the action. It's also no wonder Texas was able to get good very quickly in the NIL world and dominate the SEC in year 1.
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How did tejas dominate the SEC? :headscratch:

Per conference standings.....

They lost to (7-2) #2 Georgia twice.
They did not play (6-2) #3 Tennessee
They did not play (5-3) #4 Alabama (who beat Georgia)
They did not play (5-3) #8 Ole Miss (who beat Georgia)

^^ The combined record of those 4 teams was (23-10) in conference play. A 70% winning average. ^^

They beat (0-8) Misissippi St
They beat (2-6) Oklahoma
They beat (3-5) Vandy
They beat (4-4) Florida
They beat (3-5) Arkansas
They beat (1-7) Kentucky
They beat (5-3) Texas A&M

^^ The combined record of those 7 teams was (18-38) in conference play. A 32% winning average. ^^

So of 16 SEC teams, tejas beat the 16th, 15th, 13th, 12th, 11th, 10th, and 7th according to the final conference standings.
 
I think it's less to do with paying players and more to do with free transfers. The big time SEC teams (Bama, Georgia, LSU, etc.) were able to build incredible depth through recruiting and they generally kept those players bc of transfer rules.

Now, with free transfers, and the ability to get proven players paid, it is much more difficult for them to keep that depth.

That said, they still have far and away the most talent spread across that conference. I still think they stay as the best conference consistently but not as dominant as we have seen the last couple decades.
 
fishinabarrel said:
I think it's less to do with paying players and more to do with free transfers. The big time SEC teams (Bama, Georgia, LSU, etc.) were able to build incredible depth through recruiting and they generally kept those players bc of transfer rules.

Now, with free transfers, and the ability to get proven players paid, it is much more difficult for them to keep that depth.

That said, they still have far and away the most talent spread across that conference. I still think they stay as the best conference consistently but not as dominant as we have seen the last couple decades.
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The big time teams everywhere are going to struggle to keep quality depth, it's not just the SEC.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
The B1G is in charge now, top dog. Rutgers would be a 10+ win team in every other conference! - Am I doing it right?
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