MLB acknowledges Negro Leagues as Major League

I think this is a big step forward. But I don’t know why it took this long for this to happen
 
Moar empty vurchew signallin' amirite y'all???
 
The question is, will they alter the official MLB records? Personally I'm ok with Josh Gibson being #1 in HRs instead of Bonds.
 
Sportsguy said:
I think this is a big step forward. But I don’t know why it took this long for this to happen
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MLB is probably the most record-oriented of all the major sports, and the negro leagues records are all over the place. Recordkeeping, for obvious reasons, wasn't a priority in the negro leagues. For example, nobody is quite sure how many homers Bob Gibson actually hit in the negro leagues. Some say it was as little as 200, others say it was as many as 900 (fat chance)
 
No disrespect but so does every professional baseball league now get recognized as major leaguers?
 
HammerDown said:
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“Oversight”.

It’s a good thing that it’s finally recognized. But as much as I love the game MLB can continue to fuck off on this.

As for records.....I don’t think the records are super dependable. Whether they are or not this will likely be a reason for not including the records.
 
wazzu31 said:
No disrespect but so does every professional baseball league now get recognized as major leaguers?
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If the players in those other professional baseball leagues were locked out of MLB, then yes.
 
Orlando_Eagles said:
If the players in those other professional baseball leagues were locked out of MLB, then yes.
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Black players aren’t the only players locked out of the major leagues. Japanese players were and so were Cubans once Castro took over.
This a dumb PR move but they better be consistent and consider Sadaharu Oh as the all time home run king and Ichiro as the all time hits leader.
 
wazzu31 said:
Black players aren’t the only players locked out of the major leagues. Japanese players were and so were Cubans once Castro took over.
This a dumb PR move but they better be consistent and consider Sadaharu Oh as the all time home run king and Ichiro as the all time hits leader.
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You make good points with Oh and Ichiro. Well....certainly Ichiro. Was Oh denied the ability to play in MLB by MLB in his time?

Ultimately, I don’t see them taking the records. This is a token move, so it won’t end being pertinent IMO. But, it does make for interesting conversation.
 
Orlando_Eagles said:
You make good points with Oh and Ichiro. Well....certainly Ichiro. Was Oh denied the ability to play in MLB by MLB in his time?

Ultimately, I don’t see them taking the records. This is a token move, so it won’t end being pertinent IMO. But, it does make for interesting conversation.
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No, and neither was Ichiro to start his career. It does make for good banter but I just think this is dumb unless you consider every player that got rejected by the MLB owners because they were believed to be inferior or political reasons like Cubans. Virtue signaling is fine but unless they rename the Cy Young Award after Paige then it is a massive insult IMO to Negro League players or just black people in general as saying “you’re equal but not really”.
 
wazzu31 said:
No, and neither was Ichiro to start his career. It does make for good banter but I just think this is dumb unless you consider every player that got rejected by the MLB owners because they were believed to be inferior or political reasons like Cubans. Virtue signaling is fine but unless they rename the Cy Young Award after Paige then it is a massive insult IMO to Negro League players or just black people in general as saying “you’re equal but not really”.
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What if they want to change Cy Young to Satchel Paige? I could see something like this happening way more than taking in their records. A traditional game trying to make headway and hold on as a sport.....it could be a thing.

And good call on the Japanese players. I just let it flat slip my mind they were non grata until Ichiro. If they were to be dumb enough to try to fold in questionable record keeping of the Negro Leagues they do have to include Ichiro for sure.
 
Japanese players were in MLB ten years before Ichiro was born.

Oh was a 24 year old in his sixth season.

Their Nippon numbers are never going to count.

Neither are the Negro League numbers. My grandpa played doubleheaders against Negro League teams in the late 40’s and 50’s. One of the parks he played at, didn’t even have a fence. Let’s get real here.
 
Orlando_Eagles said:
What if they want to change Cy Young to Satchel Paige? I could see something like this happening way more than taking in their records. A traditional game trying to make headway and hold on as a sport.....it could be a thing.

And good call on the Japanese players. I just let it flat slip my mind they were non grata until Ichiro. If they were to be dumb enough to try to fold in questionable record keeping of the Negro Leagues they do have to include Ichiro for sure.
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That is what I was saying. Instead of a token demeaning gesture, if they want to say they are major league players then the Cy Young Award needs to be changed to the Satchel Paige award. White players also agreed that Paige was the best pitcher in the era.

Like I said I don’t really care and doesn’t affect me, I just think this move is an insult to all Negro League players (especially Jackie Robinson) and also is slap in the face to all other professional players who were good enough to play in the big leagues but were not allowed to because of the owners gentleman agreements, politics or any other reason.
 
Can we say “negro leagues” in public without SJWs attacking?
 
rsw626 said:
The question is, will they alter the official MLB records? Personally I'm ok with Josh Gibson being #1 in HRs instead of Bonds.
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They already said no to this.
 
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