Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC

How long?

  • Year 1

    Votes: 6 26.1%

  • Within the first 3-5 seasons

    Votes: 9 39.1%

  • At LEAST 10 years

    Votes: 6 26.1%

  • Texas BBQ style potato salad

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Total voters
    23
  • Poll closed .
Red_Alert said:
Again... Ga Tech brings $10's of milllions per year to the Big 10 institutions. Ga Tech also adds the Georgia footprint regardless of how bad they suck at football.

U of Georgia brings maybe $4 million/yr 'at best' in the next round of media rights negotiations based on Georgia footprint.
Georgia brings no research value to speak of.

The Big 10 is fine with 4 out of the 10 blueblood anchors.
Same # as the SEC once TX/OU arrive.
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Without going into details of numbers (I haven't researched it), UGA v. the Nerds with regard to CFB is not a comparison. Tech has been down for a long time and they won't come back any time soon. Even their 404 ATL schtick is BS ... you ever been to the part of town where Tech is located. It's not nice.

You seem to compare the top of the B1G to the top of the SEC with your last few sentences.

AU, UA, UGA, LSU, UF, TAMU, OU, TX >>>>>> tOSU, UM, PSU, Wisky and then not even sure where to go after that.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
The 12 team CFP makes this possible from a competitive advantage. Without that, I would hate it. I have a son at Bama, so we get to trash talk more, that's good.

My problem with 24 teams is a "pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered" problem. If we gut the ACC and the B12, have we really helped CFB, or made it worse. I would say made it worse. So we own a bigger piece of a less valuable pie. I hope it stops where we are.
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maybe theres a scenario where it goes up and teams regret it and we revert back but maybe we see new bedfellows
 
Wild Turkey said:
You are speaking out of turn and have no clue about the research dollars brought in by SEC schools. Most members are land, sea, air and space grant universities.

The combined SEC R&D investments total over 5 billion and have an outward economic impact of 65 billion.

Acting like AAU owns this space is ridiculous.
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I'm not acting shit. It's just a fact.

LOL @ $5 billion.

Congress allocates over $120 billion a year to AAU.


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Wild Turkey said:
The only reason the B1G schools receive more in R&D is because your enrollments are massive and your state populations are so much higher. From a per capita student basis every SEC school matches up well.
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It's also why the next Big 10 media contract will be on par with the SEC's even with TX/OU added.
 
Red_Alert said:
Who's gonna talk to the Big 10?

Not Texas Tech, Baylor, Okie Jr, KSU, or WVU.
Big 10: "You're not AAU, click"

Iowa St or KU are not head and shoulders enough in value above those other 5 to cause PAC or ACC panic on them.

KU is Big 10 bound. That's not even a doubt. They know that and won't panic for a PAC offer that's unlikely to even come anyway in the near term.
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There were reports that Washington, Oregon, USC reached out to the Big 10. Not sure they are credible, but that is out there with 100 other rumors
 
Red_Alert said:
There are only so many 'elite' coaches in a generation. 3 or maybe even 4 at best. Unless your a Meyer/Saban type hiring a head coach is a complete crap shoot. Dabo was sheer luck for Clemson.
If it were as easy as you imply then RichRod, Hoke, and Harbaugh would still be playing for titles at Michigan.
If it were as easy as you imply then Strong and Herman would still be playing for titles at Texas.
If it were as easy as you say then Lane Kiffin, and Sarkisian would still be playing for titles at Southern Cal. Helton has been there 7 years and how many playoff entries? I'll wait.....
If it were as easy as you imply then Florida would still be playing for titles...... etc, etc, etc.

Again, landing a head coach that can put ALL the pieces together to play NC caliber football is a crap shoot at best.
The dust bin of O and D coordinators or G5 coaches that made the jump to P5 head coaching jobs is a mile high.

BTW.... Bob Stoops was NOT an 'Elite' coach. Top 10 or so, yes. However, he benefitted by playing in a Big 12 that was down. His lone NC was 2000 with Blake recruits.

To get back to your original question on Nebraska ever returning to NC caliber... The chances are just as slim as anyone else. It would take an ass ton of luck.
Getting back to Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Penn St, Michigan level is certainly obtainable.
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You ducked the question. Read it again. If a Tom Osborne clone was available (and we all know you guys think he was the GOAT) do you really think he could get Nebraska back to the mountain top again considering all the changes that have occurred over the past 30 years? I'm talking Ohio State/OU/Alabama/Clemson elite. Full disclosure: I grew up in a bedroom that had only two football pennants: Oklahoma and Nebraska.
 
Codaxx said:
There were reports that Washington, Oregon, USC reached out to the Big 10. Not sure they are credible, but that is out there with 100 other rumors
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Per the Tweet in question, it was USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Colorado that reached out to B1G. Not sure if it is happening or not. It makes the most sense for the B1G to poach from the Pac12 and these schools probably are frustrated with the poor TV contracts and revenue flow in the Pac12.
 
The rumor mill says Kansas and ISU have both reached out to the B1G already, for what it's worth.
 
Red_Alert said:
I'm not acting shit. It's just a fact.

LOL @ $5 billion.

Congress allocates over $120 billion a year to AAU.


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Research

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Big Ten Academic Alliance universities engage in $10 billion in funded research each year. Leaders from our member universities are exploring ways to promote greater strategic engagement across the spectrum of the research enterprise to leverage and build upon the significant resources and research facilities. Additionally, Big Ten Academic Alliance universities engage in the following research-oriented initiatives:

You ain't getting $120 billion so quite trying to make it sound like you do.

I also found this gem: Nebraska’s Federal Research and Development Lags Other Midwest States - Nebraska Tech Collaborative

"Nebraska has performed near the bottom of Midwest states regarding federal research and development dollars directed to the state."

So it sounds like you guys are at the bottom and barely beating out Arkansas.
 
Fredmccallyrtr said:
Nah. But I'd guess sooner is still the plan. For legal reasons and hoping they can escape sooner for cheaper they're saying this. It's just smart.
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The logistics of rescheduling have to be massive.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Agreed. People were talking about Texas' academic prestige and yes they are top 3-4 in SEC but Vandy and Florida are raboth way ahead of Texas in most rankings. Texas A&M is considered one of the best bang-for-buck schools to go to. Even UTK is not easy to get into.
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Texas is with Florida in the main USNews Rankings that only consider undergrad education. World rankings would have Texas #1 (71st) that includes grad and research work. Florida is #2 (162). I would agree most Texas fans exaggerate the value of a 4 year degree at Texas
 
Volbound1700 said:
Per the Tweet in question, it was USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Colorado that reached out to B1G. Not sure if it is happening or not. It makes the most sense for the B1G to poach from the Pac12 and these schools probably are frustrated with the poor TV contracts and revenue flow in the Pac12.
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No idea if it is real, but the fact that there is smoke around it, means PAC needs to make some moves to fortify the conference
 
Volbound1700 said:
3 of the top 10 Bluebloods are in MAJOR decline though. Tennessee is ahead of Georgia, Florida, LSU, Auburn, etc. in all-time rankings but do you really feel like Tennessee is a more valuable product than any of these four?

When was the last time any of those 3 Blue Bloods sniffed a National Title? Wisconsin has been more of a factor in the B1G than any of those 3 Bluebloods. Right now, Florida, Georgia, and LSU are far bigger and more profitable products than those 3 Blue Bloods.
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Tell yourself whatever you need to to be in your comfort zone.

Nebraska, Michigan, and Penn St are one Dabo from being right back to prominence.

No different than Texas or Tennessee who have also been in decline.

The biggest eraser in the world and 100 gallons of bleach won't make this go away.
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Georgia is 10 years 'at best' away from reaching that.
LSU is 12 years 'at best' away from reaching that.
Florida and Auburn are 20 years 'at best' away from reaching that.
 
Red_Alert said:
I'm not acting shit. It's just a fact.

LOL @ $5 billion.

Congress allocates over $120 billion a year to AAU.


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I acknowledge that the AAU is a big deal for the B1G. It's up to the them if they want that to matter when looking at athletics. But, we are talking football here and at the end of the day whether AAU or not (you guys are still in the B1G as the only non-AAU), the B1G will do what it has to do.

FWIW, I can't see any team other than ND that moves the needle enough for the B1G to feel it needs to make a move. Why would you take less per school by adding 2 teams that clearly would not bring $45 million, or whatever the current share is, in value. You shouldn't.

I think everyone assuming that everyone will do something misses the important thing ... why do something that makes no monetary sense. Let the B12 decide what they want to do. The B1G can't be worried about the ACC grabbing Kansas. Who the fuck cares? It would lessen their per school share.
 
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