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duckboy33 said:
I read it, I just don't believe it. I don't believe Nebraska is willing to settle for 4 straight losing seasons as recruiting continues to decline. As I said, less than a decade ago they decided 9-10 wins annually wasn't good enough. And I'm not here to second guess or tell them that it was the wrong decisions, it's just odd how 9-10 wins wasn't good enough but they're willing to watch Frost win 4-5 forever with no signs of improvement.

Hopefully Frost shows signs of improvement this year and this conversation becomes irrelevant. But after 4 years, it's going to be harder and harder to keep saying "we're young" or "wait til he gets his guys in".
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The Pelini issue was more than that and if you'd been following college football then you'd know that.

Categorically Frost has improved this team year to year. It just hasn't shown up in the win column.
 
Red_Alert said:
The Pelini issue was more than that and if you'd been following college football then you'd know that.

Categorically Frost has improved this team year to year. It just hasn't shown up in the win column.
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I understand it. Pelini was unlikeable where Frost is a Nebraska hero. They shouldn't let Frost sink the program into mediocrity just because he played on some good teams. He needs to win this year.
 
Red_Alert said:
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You want to give him AT Least until 2023? That's six seasons to turn Nebraska into a competitive program. A good coach could have done it a lot sooner. Frost may even do it this year, I'm actually rooting for him.
 
outofyourmind said:
No way Frost is on the Hot Seat.
He'll be given time.

I just don't see how Nebraska makes a change, even if they wanted to, which they don't.
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This ... it's the only chance that NU has ... hope that he can turn it around. Otherwise they will remain irrelevant in modern CFB. There is no other coach who will (1) come to NU, and (2) stay there if they turn the program around. The recruiting is too difficult. And, no, NU isn't going to magically become tOSU in recruiting.
 
Anybody doing any legit analysis on Harbaugh knows "It's who you've beaten" to get to those 10 wins.

If you don't factor that in then you're just another Iowa.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
This ... it's the only chance that NU has ... hope that he can turn it around. Otherwise they will remain irrelevant to modern CFB. There is no other coach who will (1) come to NU, and (2) stay there if they turn the program around. The recruiting will too hard. And, no, NU isn't going to magically become tOSU in recruiting.
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Those days are probably over regardless of what Scott Frost does. Nebraska now has to figure out how to make their program like Iowa or Wisconsin.
 
Red_Alert said:
Yup. Through Dec 2023.
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Hey, I hope he's successful and Nebraska starts contending in the Big Ten West. But this is definitely about some emotional attachment to Scott Frost. Emotional decisions tend to be bad ones
 
duckboy33 said:
Those days are probably over regardless of what Scott Frost does. Nebraska now has to figure out how to make their program like Iowa or Wisconsin.
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That's the goal.

The trophy room and legacy will take care of things after that.
 
duckboy33 said:
Hey, I hope he's successful and Nebraska starts contending in the Big Ten West. But this is definitely about some emotional attachment to Scott Frost. Emotional decisions tend to be bad ones
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Not 'emotional' at all. It's being level headed.

Being 'emotional' would be to fire Frost after another (5-7) season in 2021.
 
Red_Alert said:
Not 'emotional' at all. It's being level headed.

Being 'emotional' would be to fire Frost after another (5-7) season in 2021.
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Funny how they didn't give Mike Riley six seasons even though his first 3 seasons were better than Frost's. Don't get me wrong, they were right to fire Mike Riley and they did because they didn't have some weird emotional attachment to him.
 
If you look at Frost's 20 losses, 12 of those were by a TD or less.

With Iowa or Wiscy discipline (less penalties/turnovers) and lines they potentially flip those 12 losses.

Hence the record could be (24-8) at best.

You need to stop going after low hanging fruit to see some of these tangible things.
 
Red_Alert said:
If you look at Frost's 20 losses, 12 of those were by a TD or less.

With Iowa or Wiscy discipline (less penalties/turnovers) and lines they potentially flip those 12 losses.

Hence the record could be (24-8) at best.

You need to stop going after low hanging fruit to see some of these tangible things.
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If Scott Frost were able to win a lot of the games he lost, his record would be better. There's no doubt about that.

Scott Frost has been 5-12 in one score games as the HC for Nebraska. I'm not sure that's the stat you want to pull out to stump for Frost. Seems like he lost a lot of winnable games. Which makes sense because Nebraska has more talent on paper than anyone else in the Big Ten West.
 
What about Clay Helton at USC?
Some good years, some bad years.

Before last year, I thought we were hearing some rumblings.
 
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