NL MVP

Illustrious Potentate said:
That’s a fine award for him. But, MVPs don’t go 0-14 with 6 k’s with their team’s season on the line
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so you are basing it on the last week of the season, not the whole season?

if Harper isn't on the Phillies, they don't even come close to a winning record

what is more valuable a measurement than that?
 
ill said:
so you are basing it on the last week of the season, not the whole season?

if Harper isn't on the Phillies, they don't even come close to a winning record

what is more valuable a measurement than that?
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Games that matter the most get the most weight.
 
ill said:
incorrect.

a win is a win is a win and they all help in the end
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And Harper wasn’t valuable enough to get his team the most wins in the division. Phillies could have extended the NL’s longest playoff drought without him. Pressure was high, he came up small.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
And Harper wasn’t valuable enough to get his team the most wins in the division. Phillies could have extended the NL’s longest playoff drought without him. Pressure was high, he came up small.
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"only playoff teams can have MVPs" - Chewy

nope
 
ill said:
"only playoff teams can have MVPs" - Chewy

nope
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Ain’t how it is, but how it should be. Goldy, Muncy, Crawford and Riley. One of those 4 should get it
 
Anyone who says that a player on a team that misses the playoffs isn't valuable at all has never had to put together an entire team worth of PAs and innings over 162 games and seen how big a hole a player having a great season fills in any lineup.
 
DragonFromTo said:
Anyone who says that a player on a team that misses the playoffs isn't valuable at all has never had to put together an entire team worth of PAs and innings over 162 games and seen how big a hole a player having a great season fills in any lineup.
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They can be valuable, just not most valuable. Going by bWAR, Braves miss the playoffs without Riley
 
Hitman Hart said:
i think Harper should win it, but i'm now questioning that stance
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Of the 3 finalists, I’d give it to Harper because at least the Phillies had a winning record even though Soto had the best individual season of the 3
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
Of the 3 finalists, I’d give it to Harper because at least the Phillies had a winning record even though Soto had the best individual season of the 3
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i would give it to Harper b/c he was the only player in the NL that finished with an 1.000+ OPS
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
They can be valuable, just not most valuable. Going by bWAR, Braves miss the playoffs without Riley
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So if the Braves had won the division by more Riley would become less deserving? That seems kind of silly to me.

In addition, Harper could have gone 14 for 14 instead of 0 for 14 in that late season series and it still wouldn't have made up the 6.5 games that the Phillies missed by.
 
DragonFromTo said:
So if the Braves had won the division by more Riley would become less deserving? That seems kind of silly to me.
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No, he didn’t do anything but produce all season, even when the season was on the line and he was the best player on a playoff team. Crawford, Muncy and Goldy all have legit cases too. Don’t come up small when your season is on the line
 
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