PLease don't give fordman84 mod powers over the politics forum

I think it's about time for Hammer to make me a mod - for the 2nd time.

This world needs order! My firm hand will insure a finely oiled machine.

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Lots of off-topic posts recently guys. Please get it back on track or I'll have to take away some privileges.


(see that hammer. i can mod.)
 
Batman said:
Lots of off-topic posts recently guys. Please get it back on track or I'll have to take away some privileges.


(see that hammer. i can mod.)
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Batman said:
Lots of off-topic posts recently guys. Please get it back on track or I'll have to take away some privileges.


(see that hammer. i can mod.)
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lmao! Nothing makes Americans cringe like that phrase. Anyone ever mentioning my "privileges" makes some voice in the back of my head immediately scream "fuck you!!"

"Mod like you're a jealous drunk who doesn't want any other drunks around." -- A Drunk Moderator
 
@HammerDown Can you please give @Batman some mod powers so he can again prove he is a hypocrite?

It seems to be all he wants in life, a little bit of power to validate his existence. Sounds like someone who would be a cop just to hide behind the shield.
 
fordman84 said:
@HammerDown Can you please give @Batman some mod powers so he can again prove he is a hypocrite?

It seems to be all he wants in life, a little bit of power to validate his existence. Sounds like someone who would be a cop just to hide behind the shield.
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fordman84 said:
@HammerDown Can you please give @Batman some mod powers so he can again prove he is a hypocrite?

It seems to be all he wants in life, a little bit of power to validate his existence. Sounds like someone who would be a cop just to hide behind the shield.
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i wouldn't let @Batman be in charge of a gum wrapper, let alone a moderator for a site like this.
 
lol
Juicey juice still upset that he got a pink slip.
 
Instead of mod powers over the Politics Forum, we could grant @fordman84 powers over all the other boards.
 
Kace-1 said:
Instead of mod powers over the Politics Forum, we could grant @fordman84 powers over all the other boards.
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What did I do to you? I don't deserve this kind of hatred. :)
 
I don't envy anyone that chooses to be a mod for the PF, trust me.

You'd feel like Wallace in last night's debate. Trying to maintain order and move the conversation forward, but then there'd be pretty much everyone not giving a crap.

The PF needs either of these circumstances:

1. No holds barred. Enter at your own risk. Only things that would be moderated would be outright racism, sexism, etc, especially used in a personal attack against another poster. Otherwise, sort through your own moshpit.

2. Crackdown on personal insults. You can still debate, refute, and post sources supporting your viewpoint or in opposition of another's.

3. A debate club, where only factual evidence is allowed, no personal attacks, and no emotional arguments can be provided. Policy differences can be presented and it would be up to the reader to determine what they think would be best.


I think we can all agree that number 3 is unobtainable here, and likely in an actual debate club/course in today's America. Number 2 is a possibilty, and has been tried in the past at SH. It would take a team of mods that can be considered unbiased in their decisions, regardless of personal viewpoint. It would also take a buy-in of the majority of posters to abide but guidelines, even if there are growing pains.

However, we're at option 1, so if you venture into the PF, you do so well aware of what you're getting into and there should be no complaints.
 
Cobrabit said:
I don't envy anyone that chooses to be a mod for the PF, trust me.

You'd feel like Wallace in last night's debate. Trying to maintain order and move the conversation forward, but then there'd be pretty much everyone not giving a crap.

The PF needs either of these circumstances:

1. No holds barred. Enter at your own risk. Only things that would be moderated would be outright racism, sexism, etc, especially used in a personal attack against another poster. Otherwise, sort through your own moshpit.

2. Crackdown on personal insults. You can still debate, refute, and post sources supporting your viewpoint or in opposition of another's.

3. A debate club, where only factual evidence is allowed, no personal attacks, and no emotional arguments can be provided. Policy differences can be presented and it would be up to the reader to determine what they think would be best.


I think we can all agree that number 3 is unobtainable here, and likely in an actual debate club/course in today's America. Number 2 is a possibilty, and has been tried in the past at SH. It would take a team of mods that can be considered unbiased in their decisions, regardless of personal viewpoint. It would also take a buy-in of the majority of posters to abide but guidelijes, even if there are growing pains.

However, we're at option 1, so if you venture into the PF, you do so well aware of what you're getting into and there should be no complaints.
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Cobrabit said:
I don't envy anyone that chooses to be a mod for the PF, trust me.

You'd feel like Wallace in last night's debate. Trying to maintain order and move the conversation forward, but then there'd be pretty much everyone not giving a crap.

The PF needs either of these circumstances:

1. No holds barred. Enter at your own risk. Only things that would be moderated would be outright racism, sexism, etc, especially used in a personal attack against another poster. Otherwise, sort through your own moshpit.

2. Crackdown on personal insults. You can still debate, refute, and post sources supporting your viewpoint or in opposition of another's.

3. A debate club, where only factual evidence is allowed, no personal attacks, and no emotional arguments can be provided. Policy differences can be presented and it would be up to the reader to determine what they think would be best.


I think we can all agree that number 3 is unobtainable here, and likely in an actual debate club/course in today's America. Number 2 is a possibilty, and has been tried in the past at SH. It would take a team of mods that can be considered unbiased in their decisions, regardless of personal viewpoint. It would also take a buy-in of the majority of posters to abide but guidelines, even if there are growing pains.

However, we're at option 1, so if you venture into the PF, you do so well aware of what you're getting into and there should be no complaints.
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Pretty much nailed it. The PF migrated at the other place over time between 1 and 2. Yes leniency was given to those who were known commodities and it was clear who was just in a surly mood one day vs a noob who rolled in with both barrels blazing. I and the other mods would try to read everything but not a lot of attention can be given to every post so a lot is missed. The really bad stuff is seen or reported and dealt with.

It just comes down to people understanding what you are going to get on a mostly anonymous message board, and choosing to partake or avoid it. Know that if you go in and make a good point with facts and cited sources, and still get slammed. Assume everyone you are talking to is a 13 year old male and things make a lot more sense in the PF.
 
fordman84 said:
Pretty much nailed it. The PF migrated at the other place over time between 1 and 2. Yes leniency was given to those who were known commodities and it was clear who was just in a surly mood one day vs a noob who rolled in with both barrels blazing. I and the other mods would try to read everything but not a lot of attention can be given to every post so a lot is missed. The really bad stuff is seen or reported and dealt with.

It just comes down to people understanding what you are going to get on a mostly anonymous message board, and choosing to partake or avoid it. Know that if you go in and make a good point with facts and cited sources, and still get slammed. Assume everyone you are talking to is a 13 year old male and things make a lot more sense in the PF.
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Similar to my experience "way back when" being a mod of the PF. The effort to try to clean it up was requested, to keep the personal attacks to a minimum and move the conversation along, but what the posters really wanted was a place to bitch.

So as long as it didn't infiltrate other forums, it could be contained. The issue was when personal political grudges carried over to threads/forums that had nothing to do with it and that's when it needs to be nipped.
 
Being a mod sucks. I did it once. Too many douches on the interwebs
 
"Hey Peter, We need you to moderate the PF for a single day"

good bye GIF
 
CaptainStubing said:
Being a mod sucks. I did it once. Too many douches on the interwebs
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Yep, and it really says something about the person that hides behind anonymity in order to get their "jollies off", when we all know they would be completely different in a face to face circumstance. As Ford mentioned, assume they're a 13 year old and move on.

It isn't worth it to wade through the childish BS,
 
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