Daddy Nick tried to warn everyone

Mistaken4193 · Apr 12, 2022

He tried to warn y’all about the portal. Y’all just didn’t listen.

After Already adding Jermaine Burton, Jahmyr Gibbs, and Eli Ricks…….Today Alabama added:

And now we are expected to add:

Alabama had probably Sabans weakest team (other than 07) last year and still won the SEC and played for National Title. Y’all might as well not even show up this year.

RubinRock · Apr 13, 2022

Lol. A Vanderbilt transfer? I love how the tweet references his high school and not his previous college. How far the mighty have fallen

Red_Alert · Apr 13, 2022

Mistaken4193 said:
He tried to warn y’all about the portal. Y’all just didn’t listen.

After Already adding Jermaine Burton, Jahmyr Gibbs, and Eli Ricks…….Today Alabama added:

And now we are expected to add:

Alabama had probably Sabans weakest team (other than 07) last year and still won the SEC and played for National Title. Y’all might as well not even show up this year.

How good was the SEC though?

Miami - (7-5) No bowl
Mercer - FCS
Florida - Lost bowl game 29-17 to UCF
Southern Miss - (3-9) Finish
Ole Miss - Lost Bowl game 21-7 to Baylor
Texas A&M - Lost 38-41 (A&M dnp bowl)
Mississippi St - Lost bowl game to Texas Tech 34-7
Tennessee - Lost bowl game to Purdue 48-45
LSU - Lost bowl game to Kansas St 42-20
New Mexico St - (2-10) Finish
Arkansas - Beat Penn St 24-10 in bowl game
Auburn - Lost bowl game to Houston 17-13

Beat Cincinnati - G5 (Cincy's best win was Notre Dame who lost their bowl game)
Beat Georgia - SEC CCG
Lost to Georgia - Natty

3 wins against Mercer (FCS), Southern Miss (3-9), New Mexico St (2-10)
Of their SEC opponents in the regular season, they went a combined 1-6 in their bowl games.
Bama lost to A&M in regular season who did not play a bowl game

Red_Alert · Apr 13, 2022

3, 2, 1,

SEC regular season opponents 'did not want to be there for their bowl games'.

Mistaken4193 · Apr 13, 2022

Red_Alert said:
How good was the SEC though?

Miami - (7-5) No bowl
Mercer - FCS
Florida - Lost bowl game 29-17 to UCF
Southern Miss - (3-9) Finish
Ole Miss - Lost Bowl game 21-7 to Baylor
Texas A&M - Lost 38-41 (A&M dnp bowl)
Mississippi St - Lost bowl game to Texas Tech 34-7
Tennessee - Lost bowl game to Purdue 48-45
LSU - Lost bowl game to Kansas St 42-20
New Mexico St - (2-10) Finish
Arkansas - Beat Penn St 24-10 in bowl game
Auburn - Lost bowl game to Houston 17-13

Beat Cincinnati - G5 (Cincy's best win was Notre Dame who lost their bowl game)
Beat Georgia - SEC CCG
Lost to Georgia - Natty

3 wins against Mercer (FCS), Southern Miss (3-9), New Mexico St (2-10)
Of their SEC opponents in the regular season, they went a combined 1-6 in their bowl games.
Bama lost to A&M in regular season who did not play a bowl game

Thank God our schedule was that easy. That team should have lost 2 or 3 in the regular season.

WhosYourDawggy · Apr 13, 2022

Red_Alert said:
How good was the SEC though?

Miami - (7-5) No bowl
Mercer - FCS
Florida - Lost bowl game 29-17 to UCF
Southern Miss - (3-9) Finish
Ole Miss - Lost Bowl game 21-7 to Baylor
Texas A&M - Lost 38-41 (A&M dnp bowl)
Mississippi St - Lost bowl game to Texas Tech 34-7
Tennessee - Lost bowl game to Purdue 48-45
LSU - Lost bowl game to Kansas St 42-20
New Mexico St - (2-10) Finish
Arkansas - Beat Penn St 24-10 in bowl game
Auburn - Lost bowl game to Houston 17-13

Beat Cincinnati - G5 (Cincy's best win was Notre Dame who lost their bowl game)
Beat Georgia - SEC CCG
Lost to Georgia - Natty

3 wins against Mercer (FCS), Southern Miss (3-9), New Mexico St (2-10)
Of their SEC opponents in the regular season, they went a combined 1-6 in their bowl games.
Bama lost to A&M in regular season who did not play a bowl game

Yup, the SEC sucks. You got it. Thank goodness we play in that sucky conference.

fordman84 · Apr 13, 2022

Mistaken4193 said:
He tried to warn y’all about the portal. Y’all just didn’t listen.

After Already adding Jermaine Burton, Jahmyr Gibbs, and Eli Ricks…….Today Alabama added:

And now we are expected to add:

Alabama had probably Sabans weakest team (other than 07) last year and still won the SEC and played for National Title. Y’all might as well not even show up this year.

I like our chances with a better QB, better DL, and more experienced team. Wasn't an issue last year, shouldn't be one this year.

fordman84 · Apr 13, 2022

Red_Alert said:
3, 2, 1,

SEC regular season opponents 'did not want to be there for their bowl games'.

A&M didn't want to be in our bowl game.

WhosYourDawggy · Apr 13, 2022

I have to admit that the gumps have worked the portal about perfectly. I am not sure about the Vandy player, but everyone else they have gotten were studs.

Our problem this year is we simply didn't have room to make moves. We were at 91 schollies to start the spring. I think we are down to 87, and will likely lose another 4-5. Then we will add a few more. But we couldn't take part because we didn't have room.

BadMotoWeazal · Apr 13, 2022

Red_Alert said:
How good was the SEC though?

Miami - (7-5) No bowl
Mercer - FCS
Florida - Lost bowl game 29-17 to UCF
Southern Miss - (3-9) Finish
Ole Miss - Lost Bowl game 21-7 to Baylor
Texas A&M - Lost 38-41 (A&M dnp bowl)
Mississippi St - Lost bowl game to Texas Tech 34-7
Tennessee - Lost bowl game to Purdue 48-45
LSU - Lost bowl game to Kansas St 42-20
New Mexico St - (2-10) Finish
Arkansas - Beat Penn St 24-10 in bowl game
Auburn - Lost bowl game to Houston 17-13

Beat Cincinnati - G5 (Cincy's best win was Notre Dame who lost their bowl game)
Beat Georgia - SEC CCG
Lost to Georgia - Natty

3 wins against Mercer (FCS), Southern Miss (3-9), New Mexico St (2-10)
Of their SEC opponents in the regular season, they went a combined 1-6 in their bowl games.
Bama lost to A&M in regular season who did not play a bowl game

Fuck those other SEC teams!!!

The portal is giving Bama a better chance of winning yet another Championship

Volbound1700 · Apr 15, 2022

Pretty much everyone sucks compared to Alabama because they have the greatest coach to ever coach the game and suck all of the talent up. Kudos to Kirby Smart and Georgia for being able to keep up in recruiting.

Texas A&M and Jimbo Fisher are also in the running but Fisher needs a solid QB.

Tennessee's 2023 class could be elite but we are, at best, 2-3 years away from Heupel and another thing, we have been in this promising position in the past (2014-2016 span under Jones and we were looking kind of solid in 2018 with Pruitt and recruiting) only to blow it. I will get more confident if we have a good 2022 season.

Auburn, Florida, and LSU all tend to typically recruit and compete at the high level (LSU won title just 2 years ago, hard to imagine that with their struggles now) but all three seem to really be struggling at the moment. I cannot say that I feel bad for them.

@Red_Alert you are right that the rest of the SEC is a little behind on the game though. Still, the SEC has more elite teams than the B1G who really only has Ohio State and kind of Michigan.

To summarize my rambling, Saban and Alabama sucked the life out of the SEC so I kind of agree with you that the SEC is weaker than it was say in 2006-2010 timeframe. Although it has gotten more competitive with Kirby Smart's move to Georgia and Jimbo Fisher's move to Texas A&M.

ellupo · Apr 15, 2022

Mistaken4193 said:
He tried to warn y’all about the portal. Y’all just didn’t listen.

After Already adding Jermaine Burton, Jahmyr Gibbs, and Eli Ricks…….Today Alabama added:

And now we are expected to add:

Alabama had probably Sabans weakest team (other than 07) last year and still won the SEC and played for National Title. Y’all might as well not even show up this year.

Anytime Bama loses the fans say the same thing.

WhosYourDawggy · Apr 15, 2022

Volbound1700 said:
Pretty much everyone sucks compared to Alabama because they have the greatest coach to ever coach the game and suck all of the talent up. Kudos to Kirby Smart and Georgia for being able to keep up in recruiting.

Texas A&M and Jimbo Fisher are also in the running but Fisher needs a solid QB.

Tennessee's 2023 class could be elite but we are, at best, 2-3 years away from Heupel and another thing, we have been in this promising position in the past (2014-2016 span under Jones and we were looking kind of solid in 2018 with Pruitt and recruiting) only to blow it. I will get more confident if we have a good 2022 season.

Auburn, Florida, and LSU all tend to typically recruit and compete at the high level (LSU won title just 2 years ago, hard to imagine that with their struggles now) but all three seem to really be struggling at the moment. I cannot say that I feel bad for them.

@Red_Alert you are right that the rest of the SEC is a little behind on the game though. Still, the SEC has more elite teams than the B1G who really only has Ohio State and kind of Michigan.

To summarize my rambling, Saban and Alabama sucked the life out of the SEC so I kind of agree with you that the SEC is weaker than it was say in 2006-2010 timeframe. Although it has gotten more competitive with Kirby Smart's move to Georgia and Jimbo Fisher's move to Texas A&M.

Fisher is still unproven to me. Here is ATM under Fisher:
2021 - 8-4
2020 - 9-1
2019 - 8-5
2018 - 9-4

Recruiting (per 247):
2021 - 1
2020 - 6
2019 - 4
2018 - 17

Remember that top 3, maybe 4 in recruiting in a given year is elite these days. Landing top 10 classes isn't elite, although it's really good. But you need solid, year after year after year of top 3 classes, with some 1s and 2s to be able to beat Bama. Clemson is the only one that hasn't followed that model and they did it with generational QBs and some incredible luck with keeping coaches and no injuries. I've lived this with CKS bringing in the 3,4,1,2,1,3,6 classes ... that got us to the natty, finally.

ATM has all the resources, and they just had their first elite class, and it was a doozie (albeit unbalanced). But they play in the SECW, need a QB as you point out, and Jimbo has to show his natty is what he's all about, not a destroyer of programs (FSU) or reliant on generational QBs (Winston). The returns thus far have been underwhelming.

We'll see how elite your class is come ESD/NSD. You got your QB, and I saw some good news the other day about a top WR. Your NIL game is second to none for now, so perhaps you can pull an ATM-like class. But you have UF, UGA and Bama every year ... so you better do that 3 or 4 years in a row.

Volbound1700 · Apr 15, 2022

WhosYourDawggy said:
Fisher is still unproven to me. Here is ATM under Fisher:
2021 - 8-4
2020 - 9-1
2019 - 8-5
2018 - 9-4

Recruiting (per 247):
2021 - 1
2020 - 6
2019 - 4
2018 - 17

Remember that top 3, maybe 4 in recruiting in a given year is elite these days. Landing top 10 classes isn't elite, although it's really good. But you need solid, year after year after year of top 3 classes, with some 1s and 2s to be able to beat Bama. Clemson is the only one that hasn't followed that model and they did it with generational QBs and some incredible luck with keeping coaches and no injuries. I've lived this with CKS bringing in the 3,4,1,2,1,3,6 classes ... that got us to the natty, finally.

ATM has all the resources, and they just had their first elite class, and it was a doozie (albeit unbalanced). But they play in the SECW, need a QB as you point out, and Jimbo has to show his natty is what he's all about, not a destroyer of programs (FSU) or reliant on generational QBs (Winston). The returns thus far have been underwhelming.

We'll see how elite your class is come ESD/NSD. You got your QB, and I saw some good news the other day about a top WR. Your NIL game is second to none for now, so perhaps you can pull an ATM-like class. But you have UF, UGA and Bama every year ... so you better do that 3 or 4 years in a row.

He is in same boat as Jim Harbaugh, he is missing that IT player at QB to get them to next level. They did finish in top 5 just a year ago. I think they just new the right player.

WhosYourDawggy · Apr 15, 2022

Volbound1700 said:
He is in same boat as Jim Harbaugh, he is missing that IT player at QB to get them to next level. They did finish in top 5 just a year ago. I think they just new the right player.

ATM has way more potential than UM. With NIL and the oil wealth, the fact that they are all-in as an administration and school is really scary. It's actually quite amazing they've not been able to put it together. They are in the top 5 schools that may be able to do some real damage with the NIL and transfer portal. To the extent that we've all talked about NIL, portal and expanded CFP brining in an additional slate of schools to compete, you have to like where ATM is, assuming that Fisher is the guy. That's where I am unsure ... not sure he is the guy.

NewPhoneWhoDis · Apr 15, 2022

Volbound1700 said:
He is in same boat as Jim Harbaugh, he is missing that IT player at QB to get them to next level. They did finish in top 5 just a year ago. I think they just new the right player.

No chance at UM. I'm a die hard UM fan and while yes, they are missing an elite QB -- we've recruited nothing like A&M has. A&M signed more 5 star recruits in just this years class than UM signed in 7-8 years of classes.

UM's only chance is the endless number of rich alumni decide they are going to buy a couple recruiting classes, but even then, the recruits have to qualify with the administration or UM won't allow them in. It is sad how archaic UM is with admitting recruits and don't even get me started with the transfer portal. Unless a player has graduated and has a clean slate, they have little to no chance of coming to UM, because the school won't accept the credits from other schools.

fordman84 · Apr 15, 2022

WhosYourDawggy said:
Fisher is still unproven to me. Here is ATM under Fisher:
2021 - 8-4
2020 - 9-1
2019 - 8-5
2018 - 9-4

Recruiting (per 247):
2021 - 1
2020 - 6
2019 - 4
2018 - 17

Remember that top 3, maybe 4 in recruiting in a given year is elite these days. Landing top 10 classes isn't elite, although it's really good. But you need solid, year after year after year of top 3 classes, with some 1s and 2s to be able to beat Bama. Clemson is the only one that hasn't followed that model and they did it with generational QBs and some incredible luck with keeping coaches and no injuries. I've lived this with CKS bringing in the 3,4,1,2,1,3,6 classes ... that got us to the natty, finally.

ATM has all the resources, and they just had their first elite class, and it was a doozie (albeit unbalanced). But they play in the SECW, need a QB as you point out, and Jimbo has to show his natty is what he's all about, not a destroyer of programs (FSU) or reliant on generational QBs (Winston). The returns thus far have been underwhelming.

We'll see how elite your class is come ESD/NSD. You got your QB, and I saw some good news the other day about a top WR. Your NIL game is second to none for now, so perhaps you can pull an ATM-like class. But you have UF, UGA and Bama every year ... so you better do that 3 or 4 years in a row.

As someone paying his salary I don't agree the results have been underwhelming. They have been about what I expect. No one realistically thought he was going to come in and within 2 years have a natty. He's got to get his staff settled, show some staying power, and develop the players. To me his clock has now started. He has 3 years to get A&M to the playoffs or else his contract will at that point have been a waste of money. Jimbo being here has us discussed on the national stage, I don't think we honestly had that prior to him. But, at the end of the day the talk isn't anything unless you get the hardware to back it. And everyone has caught up to us in the NIL game so I don't expect he will ever repeat the recruiting results. But I do think we can stay top 10 and flirt with the top 5 if we can see success on the field.

WhosYourDawggy · Apr 15, 2022

fordman84 said:
As someone paying his salary I don't agree the results have been underwhelming. They have been about what I expect. No one realistically thought he was going to come in and within 2 years have a natty. He's got to get his staff settled, show some staying power, and develop the players. To me his clock has now started. He has 3 years to get A&M to the playoffs or else his contract will at that point have been a waste of money. Jimbo being here has us discussed on the national stage, I don't think we honestly had that prior to him. But, at the end of the day the talk isn't anything unless you get the hardware to back it. And everyone has caught up to us in the NIL game so I don't expect he will ever repeat the recruiting results. But I do think we can stay top 10 and flirt with the top 5 if we can see success on the field.

There are some analogies here with what we went through with Kirby. And, keep in mind, he had never been a head coach, let alone one that had won a natty.

2016 - 8-5 - setting the culture, but there were a lot of Dawg fans that were wondering if we had made a mistake.
2017 - 13-2
2018 - 11-3
2019 - 12-2
2020 - 8-2
2021 - 14-1 natty

The 3 loss year was a loss in the SECCG and a bowl loss to Tejas. I think the thing that I find odd are all the in-season losses. Losses in CCGs, and NCGs, and even to some degree bowls you get, if you are a top team. But that's not what Fisher has done.

It's good you guys are patient ... I don't think my Dawg brethren would have been. And we know one Dawg fan here who wasn't.

Volbound1700 · Apr 15, 2022

NewPhoneWhoDis said:
No chance at UM. I'm a die hard UM fan and while yes, they are missing an elite QB -- we've recruited nothing like A&M has. A&M signed more 5 star recruits in just this years class than UM signed in 7-8 years of classes.

UM's only chance is the endless number of rich alumni decide they are going to buy a couple recruiting classes, but even then, the recruits have to qualify with the administration or UM won't allow them in. It is sad how archaic UM is with admitting recruits and don't even get me started with the transfer portal. Unless a player has graduated and has a clean slate, they have little to no chance of coming to UM, because the school won't accept the credits from other schools.

I am going to address both your and @WhosYourDawggy posts at the same time since they are similar.

I do agree but I think Michigan has, for the most part, out recruited most of their B1G rivals excluding Ohio State and general has more ability to compete nationally than most of the B1G. However, I agree with premise that Texas A&M has recruited far better. I was just using the example that Fisher has them in the running (like Harbaugh did at Michigan for years) but is missing a few pieces that is preventing a breakthrough. Michigan finally had that breakthrough this year and it is a matter of time before Aggie does it as well.

Deep Creek · Apr 15, 2022

WhosYourDawggy said:
I have to admit that the gumps have worked the portal about perfectly. I am not sure about the Vandy player, but everyone else they have gotten were studs.

Our problem this year is we simply didn't have room to make moves. We were at 91 schollies to start the spring. I think we are down to 87, and will likely lose another 4-5. Then we will add a few more. But we couldn't take part because we didn't have room.

Good problem to have since most of those 91 are 4&5*s. No?