Expansion Cities

huskers1217 said:
the only issue i have with S.A is that area is so saturated with die hard Cowboy fans you have to wonder if you could get them to switch.
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I don’t think they give a shit. The real question is can they fill a stadium and get corporate sponsorship and that answer is yes. If LA can change teams, add multiple teams over and over then SA can add a team and pull fans.
 
huskers1217 said:
Houston right now

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Nah, 4th largest city in the country, and besides: everybody needs to beat up on a Vanderbilt now and then
 
Hu War Yu said:
No more expansion.

In fact, we probably should contract about a dozen teams.
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Change that to about 4-6 teams and I’m game.

The dilution of talent isn’t horrid at this point, but expansion surely would make it worse.
 
Grant Ward said:
How many players are going to pull an Eli and refuse to sign with a foreign team?
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Probably not too many because they will want pay checks.
You live in London, Berlin, Amsterdam, or wherever for a few months and then come home for the off season. Then again, they may like it there. I'm sure you can find as many places there as you can find in America.
 
Grant Ward said:
How many players are going to pull an Eli and refuse to sign with a foreign team?
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I'm sure there will be plenty more that will happily go overseas if it means they get their shot in the NFL.

The more I think of it, the less feasible it sounds. You'd have a pretty significant dilution of talent, you'd have to completely reshuffle conferences and divisions to accommodate (the road to the super bowl would be significantly easier for a conference that contains the new euro division), scheduling would still be difficult. Lots of roadblocks.

You'd have to go all in and basically create a new league...but "NFL Europe" has been tried already. If you're really aiming to attract eyeballs and attention over there, they need the real deal.
 
Tharvot said:
You'd have to go all in and basically create a new league...but "NFL Europe" has been tried already. If you're really aiming to attract eyeballs and attention over there, they need the real deal
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This.

It doesn't work to have one league where teams are on different continents. But no one wants Euro-NFL again, either.

If they insist on expansion in North America, the logical places are limited due to the current map and population centers. Anywhere with over a million people is already close to somewhere else with a team. Oklahoma City is in Jerruh Jones' backyard. Orlando, too close to Tampa. Memphis : Nashville. Raleigh: Charlotte. Richmond: Baltimore/DC.

This leaves places like Salt Lake City, Portland OR, and Birmingham, AL...and even then you'd get pushback from Las Vegas, Seattle, and Atlanta.
 
Hu War Yu said:
This.

It doesn't work to have one league where teams are on different continents. But no one wants Euro-NFL again, either.

If they insist on expansion in North America, the logical places are limited due to the current map and population centers. Anywhere with over a million people is already close to somewhere else with a team. Oklahoma City is in Jerruh Jones' backyard. Orlando, too close to Tampa. Memphis : Nashville. Raleigh: Charlotte. Richmond: Baltimore/DC.

This leaves places like Salt Lake City, Portland OR, and Birmingham, AL...and even then you'd get pushback from Las Vegas, Seattle, and Atlanta.
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Yeah, in the Southwest would have cities that might be able to support a franchise: San Antonio, Austin, OKC. All of those are Cowboys land though.

The most obvious choices are cities that used to have teams: STL & San Diego. You could expand north of the border for Toronto and Vancouver. South to Mexico City. BUT, maybe they're just better off pulling the Jags out of FL and sending them to London. They can even keep the name (though the Brits will pronounce it "Jag-you-are").
 
huskers1217 said:
the only issue i have with S.A is that area is so saturated with die hard Cowboy fans you have to wonder if you could get them to switch.
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Lolz. They just added two teams that play all away games in California. They don’t gaf
 
Hu War Yu said:
This.

It doesn't work to have one league where teams are on different continents. But no one wants Euro-NFL again, either.

If they insist on expansion in North America, the logical places are limited due to the current map and population centers. Anywhere with over a million people is already close to somewhere else with a team. Oklahoma City is in Jerruh Jones' backyard. Orlando, too close to Tampa. Memphis : Nashville. Raleigh: Charlotte. Richmond: Baltimore/DC.

This leaves places like Salt Lake City, Portland OR, and Birmingham, AL...and even then you'd get pushback from Las Vegas, Seattle, and Atlanta.
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Portland will never get a team. Market is to small to get backing.
Reason the NFL fought so hard to stop the Seahawks from moving was because they would never get a team back in that market too.
 
Schmoopy1000 said:
Portland will never get a team. Market is to small to get backing.
Reason the NFL fought so hard to stop the Seahawks from moving was because they would never get a team back in that market too.
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That makes no sense to me? Seattle is just as large as Detroit, and is the 15th largest metropolitan area in the country. It's a bigger metro area than Minneapolis, San Diego, Tampa, St. Louis, Denver, or Baltimore

And Portland (24) is just as large as Charlotte (23), larger than Pittsburgh, Cinci, Vegas, KC, Cleveland, or Indianapolis. The only thing about some of those smaller cities is that they used to be the big population centers back when most people in this country lived East of the Mississippi, and they've had their teams for along time.
 
Hu War Yu said:
That makes no sense to me? Seattle is just as large as Detroit, and is the 15th largest metropolitan area in the country. It's a bigger metro area than Minneapolis, San Diego, Tampa, St. Louis, Denver, or Baltimore

And Portland (24) is just as large as Charlotte (23), larger than Pittsburgh, Cinci, Vegas, KC, Cleveland, or Indianapolis. The only thing about some of those smaller cities is that they used to be the big population centers back when most people in this country lived East of the Mississippi, and they've had their teams for along time.
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Just telling you what the NFL were saying when this was happening in Seattle when they almost moved to LA. They also thought about Portland. Then Paul Allen came in & just bought the team & kept them in the PNW.

It was pretty clear. Portland wasnt ever getting an NFL team.
 
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