Fire Day

Illustrious Potentate said:
Franklin is a worse coach than Riley for sure, but that means there’s less chances at playing in big games. Franklin at least won the Rose Bowl this year, what’s the biggest win in Riley’s career? Sugar Bowl against Florida in 2020?
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Yup.

Franklin beat Utah in the Rose Bowl like Utah beat USC in the rematch.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
Franklin is a worse coach than Riley for sure, but that means there’s less chances at playing in big games. Franklin at least won the Rose Bowl this year, what’s the biggest win in Riley’s career? Sugar Bowl against Florida in 2020?
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Not sure I'd agree with this one. Better QB developer, but better overall coach? He's never had a defensive unit that would compare to most of Penn State's under Franklin, and while Franklin's offenses weren't putting up wild numbers every year he's always had at least a very solid offense while basically every Riley defense was pathetic.
 
Across The Field said:
Not sure I'd agree with this one. Better QB developer, but better overall coach? He's never had a defensive unit that would compare to most of Penn State's under Franklin, and while Franklin's offenses weren't putting up wild numbers every year he's always had at least a very solid offense while basically every Riley defense was pathetic.
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He did at least win 4 Big 12 titles and make the playoffs 3 times. Franklin’s best year still saw him lose 3 games.

Franklin’s back to back 9 win seasons at Vandy were more impressive than anything he’s done at Penn State IMO
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
He did at least win 4 Big 12 titles and make the playoffs 3 times. Franklin’s best year still saw him lose 3 games.

Franklin’s back to back 9 win seasons at Vandy were more impressive than anything he’s done at Penn State IMO
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Riley also coached in a far more inconsistent and shitty conference. During Riley's 5-year tenure, the Big 12 had one season with more than 3 ranked teams and that was the fucked up 2020 season where a bunch of teams didn't play. Meanwhile, the Big Ten has only had one season of less than 5 ranked teams.

Franklin also has two 11-2 seasons under his belt, which is the same amount of losses in Riley's best seasons at OU. Put Riley at PSU from 2017-2021 and he's no better than Franklin playing in that division/conference.
 
Across The Field said:
Riley also coached in a far more inconsistent and shitty conference. During Riley's 5-year tenure, the Big 12 had one season with more than 3 ranked teams and that was the fucked up 2020 season where a bunch of teams didn't play. Meanwhile, the Big Ten has only had one season of less than 5 ranked teams.

Franklin also has two 11-2 seasons under his belt, which is the same amount of losses in Riley's best seasons at OU. Put Riley at PSU from 2017-2021 and he's no better than Franklin playing in that division/conference.
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Impossible to tell. Riley has the same amount of wins against OSU as Franklin though
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
Impossible to tell. Riley has the same amount of wins against OSU as Franklin though
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Equally impossible to tell how many overall wins vs OSU he'd have if he had to play them every year. Could have the same record. At any rate, I don't see anything that suggests he's "for sure" a better coach than Franklin though. All I know is the Big Ten has been a tougher gauntlet nearly every single year.
 
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