If You Were Hoping For CFP Expansion You’re Going To Have To Wait A Few Years

IMO they should go back to the old bowl system until they can all get on the same page.

Or just pare it down to approximately 30 teams. Let the rest pound sand.
 
All because A&M thought they were big enough to stop Texas from joining the SEC by leaking it. Everyone had agreed to increase to 12 teams but that stopped it. It will still happen, but other networks are going to have to be involved now. The others are worried about ESPN controlling it all.
 
Fucking B1G, PAC and ACC are a bunch of pussies. Got their feelings hurt when any of those 3 conferences would have been all over OU and TX had they approached them. I've never seen hurt feelings cost people so much money. It makes me think that this ain't over yet.

 
Fucking B1G, PAC and ACC are a bunch of pussies. Got their feelings hurt when any of those 3 conferences would have been all over OU and TX had they approached them. I've never seen hurt feelings cost people so much money. It makes me think that this ain't over yet.


Doesn’t matter we can’t find 4 quality teams to play in the playoff now.

The current system is grossly in favor of the SEC right now but that’s because they are producing the strongest teams.

12 teams will increase the money pot but there will be blow outs as well. This is about guaranteed spots and what basically amounts to welfare. Let the 12 best teams play with no guarantees as it’s not rocket science. The fact it isn’t getting done just proves the other conferences are scared they won’t have equal representation and honestly they shouldn’t unless their teams step up.
 
Good. When A&M gets into the playoffs I want it to be with just 4 teams so no one can claim we wouldn't have made it in the "original CFP format".
 
Fucking B1G, PAC and ACC are a bunch of pussies. Got their feelings hurt when any of those 3 conferences would have been all over OU and TX had they approached them. I've never seen hurt feelings cost people so much money. It makes me think that this ain't over yet.


Yeah, I tend to think it ain't over. If it is, it will be the first time money hasn't won. Money is 2nd only to Father Time. Father Time is still undefeated but Money will have lost one if this is over.
 
Fucking B1G, PAC and ACC are a bunch of pussies. Got their feelings hurt when any of those 3 conferences would have been all over OU and TX had they approached them. I've never seen hurt feelings cost people so much money. It makes me think that this ain't over yet.


This x 100
 
The current system is grossly in favor of the SEC right now but that’s because they are producing the strongest teams.
It’s really just the same 2-3 teams though. The more that happens the more likely people will tune out the playoffs. That will force their hand.
 
Good. When A&M gets into the playoffs I want it to be with just 4 teams so no one can claim we wouldn't have made it in the "original CFP format".
Fisher was awarded a national title without even competing for one at A&M... you don't even need a format.
 
It’s really just the same 2-3 teams though. The more that happens the more likely people will tune out the playoffs. That will force their hand.
LSU is two years removed from winning it all and Auburn was in but they just couldn't beat Georgia, Alabama and then Georgia again within 4 weeks in 2017. I'm not sure anyone could've done that and Alabama beat Georgia in the Championship (note Auburn beat them both in the regular season).

Florida came close to punching their ticket the year before last.

So yeah Bama and Georgia are on top but if they start to slide there are teams to take their place. People forget that because they just remember the playoffs games not what they had to do to get there. No Bama historic run and Georgia has at least two more national championships and Florida probably has one also.

Go back to the BSC and these are the teams that have won national titles:

Alabama
LSU
Georgia
Florida
Auburn
Tennessee

No other conference even comes close.
 
Good. When A&M gets into the playoffs I want it to be with just 4 teams so no one can claim we wouldn't have made it in the "original CFP format".
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Doesn’t matter we can’t find 4 quality teams to play in the playoff now.

The current system is grossly in favor of the SEC right now but that’s because they are producing the strongest teams.

12 teams will increase the money pot but there will be blow outs as well. This is about guaranteed spots and what basically amounts to welfare. Let the 12 best teams play with no guarantees as it’s not rocket science. The fact it isn’t getting done just proves the other conferences are scared they won’t have equal representation and honestly they shouldn’t unless their teams step up.
I believe you share a misconception of what the 12 teams CFP will do ... have more blowouts. One of the features of the CFP12 is that it is configured in a way that you will have a lot better games, even if there will be blowouts. By that I mean no matter the number of teams that get in, you are still going to likely get the same results once you get to 4. Even if more teams get better, it seems that there are always 1 or 2 teams that are just way better than everyone else. You can go back 50 years and see this. It's not a new thing.

Because there are more games, and some will be blowouts, your statement is factually correct. But I don't think it will be as bad as you think it will be. With the first round byes, you get 5 v 12, 6 v 11, 7 v 10 and 8 v 9. I contend that the difference between teams 5 and 12 isn't much. Just looking at this past year, we saw that with Utah v. USC, OkSt v. Baylor, and many other games featuring teams not in the top 4 where they were very competitive. So the first round games should be competitive because those teams are basically interchangeable. I am going to go with 3 competitive games, 1 not.

In the second round games, if it goes to chalk, you have 1 v. 8, 2 v. 7, 3 v 6, 4 v. 5. Assuming that 1 and 2 will blow out whoever they play, those two games are likely blowouts. But, 3 v 6 and 4 v. 5 are likely to be good games. So we have 2 competitive, 2 not.

Then in the semis it is typically not competitive, and the finals is. So that's 1 competitive, 2 not. Total all that up and you get 6 competitive games, 5 not. That's 5 more competitive games than we get now. With a ton of fans involved that weren't before.

This is what you would have had in round 1 this year:

Byes to Bama, Michigan, Cincy and Baylor.

Pitt @ UGA
Utah @ ND
Mich State @ tOSU
OkState @ Ole Miss

First, those are way more interesting as they are 4 home field games in the second week of December. They would all have been better games than any bowl games that were played. Our game might not have been competitive, but we are the outlier as the best team but laid an egg in the SECCG.

The second round would have been:

Bama v. winner OkState @ Ole Miss
Michigan v. winner Mich State @ tOSU
Cincy v. winner Utah @ ND
Baylor v. Pitt @ UGA

Bama and UGA probably win easily
The other two games are likely very competitive.

That means that so far we would have had 8 games, at least 5 would have been competitive.

Semis would have been:

Bama v. UGA
tOSU v. Utah

Having our game as a semi would have been a let down, but the winner would have take on tOSU which would have been a great game, I am guessing.

UGA v. tOSU - UGA National Champs.

That is actually an exciting playoff right there, with way more competitive games than you get with the 4 team plus NY6 bowl games with people opting out.
 
LSU is two years removed from winning it all and Auburn was in but they just couldn't beat Georgia, Alabama and then Georgia again within 4 weeks in 2017. I'm not sure anyone could've done that and Alabama beat Georgia in the Championship (note Auburn beat them both in the regular season).

Florida came close to punching their ticket the year before last.

So yeah Bama and Georgia are on top but if they start to slide there are teams to take their place. People forget that because they just remember the playoffs games not what they had to do to get there. No Bama historic run and Georgia has at least two more national championships and Florida probably has one also.

Go back to the BSC and these are the teams that have won national titles:

Alabama
LSU
Georgia
Florida
Auburn
Tennessee

No other conference even comes close.
No I’ve is arguing the SEC hasn’t dominated as a conference. And yes, once every 4-5 years a team other than Bama wins it.

But close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
 
No I’ve is arguing the SEC hasn’t dominated as a conference. And yes, once every 4-5 years a team other than Bama wins it.

But close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
Every 4 or 5 years someone other than Bama wins? Nah. Don't get me wrong, all respect to Bama ... they have been on a different level since Satan got there, and they are in it every year (that's actually the impressive thing ... they are in it almost every year, even if they don't win it) but here is what has happened in the CFP era:

2021GeorgiaCFP
2020AlabamaCFP
2019LSUCFP
2018ClemsonCFP
2017AlabamaCFP
2016ClemsonCFP
2015AlabamaCFP
2014Ohio StateCFP
 
All SEC teams look alike except for Vandy and Kentucky
 
No I’ve is arguing the SEC hasn’t dominated as a conference. And yes, once every 4-5 years a team other than Bama wins it.

But close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
Think about it this way: if you remove Bama from the board then another conference doesn't win another SEC team wins.

Basically, when you make that argument you are putting a higher burden on SEC teams than you are on the rest of the country, and while the argument feels sound to you at the time, it still isn't valid. The second-tier SEC talent is usually as strong or stronger than the first-tier talent in other conferences.

When other fans make the comment that the SEC is top-heavy they are ignoring the fact that our second-place team typically can also beat the best non-SEC team in the country. It makes them feel better to think the SEC is a one or two-horse league but that isn't reality.
 
When other fans make the comment that the SEC is top-heavy they are ignoring the fact that our second-place team typically can also beat the best non-SEC team in the country. It makes them feel better to think the SEC is a one or two-horse league but that isn't reality.
If this were at all true they’d be putting 2 teams in the CFP more often then they are.
 
Every 4 or 5 years someone other than Bama wins? Nah. Don't get me wrong, all respect to Bama ... they have been on a different level since Satan got there, and they are in it every year (that's actually the impressive thing ... they are in it almost every year, even if they don't win it) but here is what has happened in the CFP era:

2021GeorgiaCFP
2020AlabamaCFP
2019LSUCFP
2018ClemsonCFP
2017AlabamaCFP
2016ClemsonCFP
2015AlabamaCFP
2014Ohio StateCFP
I meant from your conference. My point stands.
 
I meant from your conference. My point stands.
I am not sure what your point is. If it's that Bama is the SEC, that's clearly wrong. Since the BCS era, we have had 6 teams win national championships. No other conference has come close to that (top of my head - the B12 has had 2, ACC has had 2, all other conferences 1 - SEC 6). In the CFP era, while Bama has clearly been the best team in the SEC, two other teams have won NCs, and UGA has been in two finals losing one in double OT.

No one would seriously argue that Bama isn't the best dynasty ever in CFB, or that they aren't clearly the best team in the SEC. But are you really trying to argue that the SEC isn't the most dominate conference? Really? Other than "it's only Bama," which I have already debunked, what else you got? This should be rich.
 
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