NCAA Rumored To Be Coming Out With New NIL Guidelines- People Aren't Happy

[Wild Turkey]

New on NIL: College leaders urge NCAA to enforce new guidelines - Sports Illustrated

Athletic directors say schools with boosters who have struck deals with players who have not yet signed with schools should be sanctioned.

www.si.com

College leaders are strongly urging the NCAA enforcement team to begin investigating what they deem to be obvious recruiting violations, past and present. Donor-led collectives that have struck deals with players before they sign binding letters of intent are violating rules, says George, one of the leaders of an NCAA working group that will soon publicize additional NIL guidelines.

The guidance clarifies existing NCAA bylaws that prohibit boosters from being involved in recruiting. Any booster or booster-led collective that has been found to have associated with prospects about recruiting—on another college team or in high school—will be found to have violated NCAA rules and put the booster’s school at risk of sanctions, George says. In addition, a booster, or booster-run collectives, “cannot communicate with a student-athlete or others affiliated with a student-athlete to encourage them to remain enrolled or attend an institution.”

Since the NIL concept began last July, college officials say there is well-documented evidence that boosters and collectives have arranged deals with prospects, many striking agreements before recruits signed with their new school. There is evidence of some boosters even hosting prospects at their homes and flying them to visit campuses, which all constitutes NCAA violations, leaders say.

In a warning shot at the NCAA itself, Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff told SI on Wednesday if the NCAA does not start enforcing existing bylaws, leaders will find an alternate solution but did not specify what those solutions could be. Amid the uncertainty, Kliavkoff and SEC commissioner Greg Sankey traveled to Washington D.C. on Thursday for meetings with key U.S. senators in hope of further encouraging them to pass federal NIL legislation, which many believe will be the only practical solution for the latest mess but is unlikely to pass this year.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Shit be getting real.

 

[outofyourmind]

 

[outofyourmind]

Oh, so they want to show up now, after their multi-year nap

 

[RubinRock]

It's fine to set up new guidelines (if they'll even actually enforce them), but seems pretty dumb to go after anyone that's done anything in the last year. The NCAA was allowing it all to happen. They essentially said "do whatever" and watched it happen.

 

[Illustrious Potentate]

Tattletales deserve to be bullied

 

[jjc2009]

It's fine to set up new guidelines (if they'll even actually enforce them), but seems pretty dumb to go after anyone that's done anything in the last year. The NCAA was allowing it all to happen. They essentially said "do whatever" and watched it happen.

Yeah. Without any enforcement teeth this doesn’t mean much

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Oh, so they want to show up now, after their multi-year nap

Here's the issue ... many schools violated long standing rules with regard to boosters, pay for play, etc. They can point at NIL all they way, but boosters being involved in recruiting has long been regulated. These are going to be violations of long standing rules, not NIL rules.

This is not to excuse the NCAA from being the idiots they are. But, we've all sat back and said WTF on many occasions. As an OU fan, you know the history of boosters paying players for services at car dealerships where the work really wasn't done. This is the same song different verse.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

It's fine to set up new guidelines (if they'll even actually enforce them), but seems pretty dumb to go after anyone that's done anything in the last year. The NCAA was allowing it all to happen. They essentially said "do whatever" and watched it happen.

I said in another thread that while it doesn't surprise me that they actually feel like they have to do something, the way to do it is to say we fucked up and let this get out of control. We will use all these examples to set the guardrails and there will be some type of amnesty for everyone that comes forward and tells us what they were doing. We will then set regulations, some of which you might have violated, but you get a pass this time due to us being the feckless shitheads we are.

 

[Goldbug]

Right or wrong, the NCAA can jerk a knot in someone's tail if they put their mind to it. Sounds like there is now enough support from college leaders to do that plus they are have been hiring again to beef up their legal staff (enforcement). The NCAA had already reported they were down 12-15 lawyers from where they needed to be if they were to enforce rules as they were intended to do (but failed miserably). They won't go after a slew of schools who may have pulled a fast one. But don't kid yourself; if this is going to work for the NCAA and the college leaders who have pleaded with them to get their act together, all they have to do is focus their efforts on a handful of the most egregious offenders. Want to pass some time? Try to imagine who they could focus on first and make their lives miserable while the rest of the schools suddenly find religion and totally skate or are penalized relatively little compared to the schools they make an example of. Be patient, grasshopper. Some interesting things are going to happen in their attempt to clean up the recruiting/NIL/portal.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Right or wrong, the NCAA can jerk a knot in someone's tail if they put their mind to it. Sounds like there is now enough support from college leaders to do that plus they are have been hiring again to beef up their legal staff (enforcement). The NCAA had already reported they were down 12-15 lawyers from where they needed to be if they were to enforce rules as they were intended to do (but failed miserably). They won't go after a slew of schools who may have pulled a fast one. But don't kid yourself; if this is going to work for the NCAA and the college leaders who have pleaded with them to get their act together, all they have to do is focus their efforts on a handful of the most egregious offenders. Want to pass some time? Try to imagine who they could focus on first and make their lives miserable while the rest of the schools suddenly find religion and totally skate or are penalized relatively little compared to the schools they make an example of. Be patient, grasshopper. Some interesting things are going to happen in their attempt to clean up the recruiting/NIL/portal.

My guess is they go after BYU - they gave all walk-ons free tuition/basically a scholarship for walk-ons ... that's pay for play; Miami - they have the billionaire who loudly proclaimed that he didn't renegotiate; UTjr who bought their QB and then bragged about it; ATM who had their head coach basically say on TV don't come after me, I've been around for a while and I know the bodies are buried.

I believe that Miami and BYU have already been told they are under investigation.

I am a tad concerned ... one of our collectives is headed up by an ex-player. But so are a ton of others - CUM is in on tOUS's collective.

 

[TheReal_NU]

Want to pass some time? Try to imagine who they could focus on first and make their lives miserable while the rest of the schools suddenly find religion and totally skate or are penalized relatively little compared to the schools they make an example of.

I vote Texas.

 

[NinerSpartan]

with there being no real NIL rules during 2021, you have to put an asterisk next to UGA's natty

its as legit as Michigan's 1997 title

 

[Peter Gozintite]

Why does anyone care what the NCAA says/does anymore? If you are a school in violation, what real power do they have anymore? If all the schools collectively told the NCAA to "fuck off" is there a single thing they can really do, besides try and take something to court, and lose?

 

[CoalTrain]

with their being no real NIL rules during 2021, you have to put an asterisk next to UGA's natty

its as legit as Michigan's 1997 title

You must be outta your freggin mi….

Well, I could be persuaded

 

[fordman84]

Gonna be real tough to prove that deals were negotiated before LOI was signed. Where do you draw the line? "we have NIL deals of $X for our players"...is that negotiating a deal? Or do you need an actual NIL contract signed with terms listed on it before the LOI is signed?

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

with there being no real NIL rules during 2021, you have to put an asterisk next to UGA's natty

its as legit as Michigan's 1997 title

You mean an asterisk for the most badass natty, or for the final one before NIL fucked all else up?

 

[Deep Creek]

It's fine to set up new guidelines (if they'll even actually enforce them), but seems pretty dumb to go after anyone that's done anything in the last year. The NCAA was allowing it all to happen. They essentially said "do whatever" and watched it happen.

NCAA can’t enforce shit. Let it play out in wild, wild West fashion!

 

[Wild Turkey]

I think you guys are missing two of the big points:

1. The PAC commissioner basically said the NCAA needs to do something about this or they will create another organization that will. That's a big deal coming from a P5 commissioner.

2. PAC and SEC commissioners went to DC to lobby congress to do something. Now that is a WTF moment and the guns don't get much bigger. If Sanky is willing to go to DC then the shit is very serious.

 

[Wild Turkey]

with there being no real NIL rules during 2021, you have to put an asterisk next to UGA's natty

its as legit as Michigan's 1997 title

Actually, I think UGA gets the asterisk for having the last legit natty (or as close as you can come). They signed their team before anything really came into effect. Now next year say if aTm wins the natty and they have major contributions by freshman then that's not going to be a good look for the sport.