Pi Day Morning

Its funny. In the past, when homes foreclosed and the bank sells a home for cheap, all the homes around it suffer tremendously.

But when a cash buyer comes in and pays over asking - bidding wars - it rarely moved the needle. There just wasn’t enough of that going on to make a difference. But the corporations buying up residential properties is changing that.

You have to remember the economy was super strong before covid. A lot of the property values we see increasing now are also due to a mass flood of people selling and upgrading over the last 3 years.

Where will it go? These corporations aren’t like banks. 500k homes won’t all of a sudden get dumped for half the cost. They’ll make their money now flipping homes, renting homes, and sell off the rest at market value. My guess is they did this to take advantage of the current 20 something’s soon to be 30, taking that next stage in life where they’ll be forced to rent homes they can’t afford. That’s the big thing w them. Work as little as possible. Own nothing. Rent everything. Little long term responsibility.

I don’t think it will trickle down to the rest of us.
It all stems back from the housing crash for the 20 to 30s group. I'm 31 and will be 32 in December. I remember everything basically going to crap my senior year 08-09 like it is now. A lot of those kids saw their parents lose crap (luckily my parents weren't in that position). I think most said "Screw that, I'm never trying that out." It's a mindset if they don't own anything, they don't lose anything. As for the work little as possible, that's pure laziness for the most part.
 
It all stems back from the housing crash for the 20 to 30s group. I'm 31 and will be 32 in December. I remember everything basically going to crap my senior year 08-09 like it is now. A lot of those kids saw their parents lose crap (luckily my parents weren't in that position). I think most said "Screw that, I'm never trying that out." It's a mindset if they don't own anything, they don't lose anything. As for the work little as possible, that's pure laziness for the most part.

I think you’re probably right. But what that generation ironically doesn’t know and was never taught is that it happened because of politics. Now this isn’t a political opinion, I’m just stating facts. Started w Carter and peaked w Obama.

The Democrats had what looked like a wonderful plan on paper. Help everybody become a home owner. Give out these subprime loans in good faith. Now us bankers took one look at these credit reports and knew damn well all these hundreds of thousands of borrowers would and could never pay these loans back. They can’t even keep up w their car payment. But the banks were forced to write these loans under the threat of government penalty. So we did. And we made a lot of money doing it knowing it would all crash. So the banks - knowingly these loans would implode - sold them off in masses. THAT is where the banks got in trouble.

Anyways, as long as nothing like that happens again, we’re good. In the simplest way to explain, money lending is strictly a case by case risk based business. The less risky you are to return the loan, the better rates and costs you get. The more risky you are to lend money to, the higher costs now and rate now so we get as much of our money back now before the borrower fucks it up.

Basically they tried to boost up the lower middle class and it didn’t work. Middle class folks went “fuck that” if they can all walk away from their homes so can we. Giant tidal wave.

My first home was a foreclosure. 165k. Sold it for way more than that.

Here is a good video explaining it. Political driven, but still informative if you can get past that part.

 
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I think you’re probably right. But what that generation ironically doesn’t know and was never taught is that it happened because of politics. Now this isn’t a political opinion, I’m just stating facts. Started w Carter and peaked w Obama.

The Democrats had what looked like a wonderful plan on paper. Help everybody become a home owner. Give out these subprime loans in good faith. Now us bankers took one look at these credit reports and knew damn well all these hundreds of thousands of borrowers would and could never pay these loans back. They can’t even keep up w their car payment. But the banks were forced to write these loans under the threat of government penalty. So we did. And we made a lot of money doing it knowing it would all crash. So the banks - knowingly these loans would implode - sold them off in masses. THAT is where the banks got in trouble.

Anyways, as long as nothing like that happens again, we’re good. In the simplest way to explain, money lending is strictly a case by case risk based business. The less risky you are to return the loan, the better rates and costs you get. The more risky you are to lend money to, the higher costs now and rate now so we get as much of our money back now before the borrower fucks it up.

Basically they tried to boost up the lower middle class and it didn’t work. Middle class folks went “fuck that” if they can all walk away from their homes so can we. Giant tidal wave.

My first home was a foreclosure. 165k. Sold it for way more than that.

Here is a good video explaining it. Political driven, but still informative if you can get past that part.


I definitely get it. I was a "banker" for awhile. Spent 3.5 years working with the public (teller & deposit account opening) and 3.5 years as a loan processor. Then after our sell off (merger) I spent about 3 miserable years with inventory & some accounting. Didn't mind the accounting but hated the purchasing & packing/shipping of inventory. Now I'm doing pre-closing & closing for a title insurance company (small local company). I'm back to the lending & real estate world.
 
I definitely get it. I was a "banker" for awhile. Spent 3.5 years working with the public (teller & deposit account opening) and 3.5 years as a loan processor. Then after our sell off (merger) I spent about 3 miserable years with inventory & some accounting. Didn't mind the accounting but hated the purchasing & packing/shipping of inventory. Now I'm doing pre-closing & closing for a title insurance company (small local company). I'm back to the lending & real estate world.

Nice. Keep up all the hard work. The mortgage business is an awesome business to be in.
 

I might try to keep a few as pets this time. Last time I did this I saw them hatch, then never saw another mantis again. But I didn’t see anything else either - no hornets, no flies, no mosquitoes. No bees. Nothing. Just the silence of death all summer.
 
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