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Kind of open on rules here but if you can redo the Conferences, changed scheduling, etc. How would you go about doing it?

All teams play 4 OOC games and 8 conference games

ACC:

Clemson
Duke
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Maryland
Navy
North Carolina
NC State
USF
Virginia
Wake Forest

Big East: 8 Conference games (3 against other division, perhaps 1 permanent rival) Very similar to SEC prior to Missouri/A&M expansion

East Division:

Boston College
Connecticut
Miami
Rutgers
UCF
Virginia Tech

West Division:

Cincinnati
Louisville
Penn State - Need to beef up Big East
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
West Virginia


Big10: Not 100% geographically accurate to keep some parity. I wanted Notre Dame in opposite division but I kept them with Purdue to have a rivalry matchup in their division. Notre Dame, for rivalry sake, probably belongs in East. I am curious, who is Notre Dame's biggest rival? BC, USC, Michigan, Purdue, etc.? I am not clear on that and would love to hear from an Irish fan. Notre Dame could keep OOC matchups with BC and USC as well as 2 others with a 12-game schedule.

East:

Army - Crazy pick, I also thought about Marshall, Temple, or others
Indiana
Illinois
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State

West:

Iowa
Minnesota
Notre Dame
Purdue
Northwestern
Wisconsin

Big 12: Basically remake old Big12 but allow revenue sharing to prevent Texas dominance and also permanent interdivision matchups, at the very least OU-Nebraska every year

North:

Colorado
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri
Nebraska

South:

Baylor
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech

SEC: Basically the same as it was prior to expansion

East:

Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt


West:

Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi State


Pac10: Not seeing a lot of opportunity to grow this league. They could keep Utah and maybe grab UNLV to get Nevada/Las Vegas market. However, I went with original lineup. I do think they only need to play 8 conference games so one opponent changes each year.

Arizona
Arizona State
Cal
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Washington
Washington State

WAC: This is basically Mountain West. I am grabbing all of the left over teams to put in this league to try to keep some of the stronger now-Power 5 programs from going down a division

East

Air Force
BYU
Colorado State
Houston
New Mexico - Just to have a team in that state, New Mexico probably doesn't deserve a spot
TCU


West

Boise State
Fresno State
Hawaii
San Diego State
UNLV
Utah

Overall notes: 32-team playoff, no bowl games. Starts Week after Conference Championships and runs until 2nd week of January with week around Christmas being off.

All teams not listed are moved down a division and for OOC scheduling, teams can only play, at most, two teams from lower division. So half OOC schedule can be cupcakes and other half has to be a team listed from the group above.

All three service academies are keep up. I had UCF in Big East vs. ACC to give Miami someone in the South. That could be swapped around.

Temple was another team that I considered for Big East but ultimately left out.
 
12 team conferences, 8 conference games and a requirement of two P5 OOC games every year is my personal preference for every major conference
 
2 12 team Super Conferences-Split ‘em up however you please
USC
UCLA
Oregon
Washington
BYU (just to get LDS eyes)
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M
LSU
Arkansas
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Tennessee
Clemson
Florida State
North Carolina
Miami
Notre Dame
Michigan
Ohio State
Penn State
Wisconsin

The rest of the minions can do whatever they want.
 
No love for Army in the Big East?

Gotta take care of our boys, don't hang em out to dry.
 
rfjeff9 said:
No love for Army in the Big East?

Gotta take care of our boys, don't hang em out to dry.
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Not sure if you are responding to me or not, but Army is in a Power 5 league in my list. I considered them for Big East and it might be a better fit but there was already 12 teams in Big East.

Now the objective for this thread was for people to post their own view points.

Mine is very close to the setup when CFB started with some of the G5 teams being upgraded to Power 5 leagues and the Penn State/Notre Dame moves. I thought most of the leagues were close to perfect in late 1990s/early 2000s timeframe.
 
Nothing personal, but these things are so stupid because the dynamics of conferences goes so far beyond geography, the quality of the school's football program, the fact that it isn't just football but 20 other sports, etc. For example, you aren't going to have a conference that doesn't include Vanderbilt even though they suck at football. No one wants a conference of just really, really good teams. Then you get really good teams going 6-6 like the NFL. And Vanderbilt, Stanford, NW all have value outside of football.

To the extent that you are talking superconferences, that will be done within the SEC and the B1G. If this gets done, the best of the other 3 conferences will join the SEC or the B1G that will become the 48 or 62 teams.

I hope this doesn't happen before I die.
 
@Volbound1700 if the Pac went back to 10 they would stay at 9 and go true round robin again. I cant see them doing that especially at the loss of Utah who has had a comeup
 
Paired conferences Promotion/relegation winner of the G5 up last place of the P5 down. football only
based on last year:
PAC/Mountain West Utah State up Arizona down
Big 12/CUSA UTSA up Kansas down
SEC/SunBelt Louisiana up Vandy down
BIG10/MAC Northern Illinois up Indiana down
ACC/AAC Cinci up Duke down
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Nothing personal, but these things are so stupid because the dynamics of conferences goes so far beyond geography, the quality of the school's football program, the fact that it isn't just football but 20 other sports, etc. For example, you aren't going to have a conference that doesn't include Vanderbilt even though they suck at football. No one wants a conference of just really, really good teams. Then you get really good teams going 6-6 like the NFL. And Vanderbilt, Stanford, NW all have value outside of football.

To the extent that you are talking superconferences, that will be done within the SEC and the B1G. If this gets done, the best of the other 3 conferences will join the SEC or the B1G that will become the 48 or 62 teams.

I hope this doesn't happen before I die.
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Post your preference, that is the point of the thread. I am assuming this post isn't in conflict with my OP because I had Vandy in the SEC.

Basically my preference would be a move back towards CFB when I first started watching it with some of the stronger non-power 5 teams still around but moving down most of the non-power 5 teams to a new division.
 
OlyDuck said:
@Volbound1700 if the Pac went back to 10 they would stay at 9 and go true round robin again. I cant see them doing that especially at the loss of Utah who has had a comeup
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This is totally my preference and not something a league would actually do :). I actually think the 9 conference game schedule has hurt the Pac12 and not helped it. Pac12 gets a lot of attention in OOC matchups and I think the traveling both to Pac12 locations and Pac12 traveling to people helps bring attention to the league. Not sure what value adding another conference game really brings to your league. To me, the 4/8 model is the best model.

Also, your schedule gets stale if you have the same teams on it every year. Sometimes it is cool to look at a conference schedule and see changes each year. I don't like SEC schedule right now because Tennessee only have 1 rotating West opponent. Have 2 rotating opponents was far more preferable.

The OOC schedule is the same way although I think having at least 2 power 5 opponents is a must.

Definitely agree with argument of Utah being in Pac12. You could take Utah and one other team and move them in Pac10/12 in my model. I could see that. One option that I considered (mostly for geographical market) was UNLV to bring Las Vegas/Nevada in the mix. UNLV also is solid in other sports, historically, such as Basketball.

I am trying to keep the leagues more regional and focused on rivals or geographically interesting matchups in my post instead of $$$.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Nothing personal, but these things are so stupid because the dynamics of conferences goes so far beyond geography, the quality of the school's football program, the fact that it isn't just football but 20 other sports, etc. For example, you aren't going to have a conference that doesn't include Vanderbilt even though they suck at football. No one wants a conference of just really, really good teams. Then you get really good teams going 6-6 like the NFL. And Vanderbilt, Stanford, NW all have value outside of football.

To the extent that you are talking superconferences, that will be done within the SEC and the B1G. If this gets done, the best of the other 3 conferences will join the SEC or the B1G that will become the 48 or 62 teams.

I hope this doesn't happen before I die.
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It won’t happen but going back to the original 10 team SEC and scheduling before divisions wouldn’t hurt my feelings.

I’d also like to see the SWC live again and everyone required to run the wishbone.
 
Thiefery's World Wide Prestige Awesome College Football Conference

TEXAS
ou
ark
LSU
aggy
USC
Az St
tosu
Michigan
oregon
 
Volbound1700 said:
This is totally my preference and not something a league would actually do :). I actually think the 9 conference game schedule has hurt the Pac12 and not helped it. Pac12 gets a lot of attention in OOC matchups and I think the traveling both to Pac12 locations and Pac12 traveling to people helps bring attention to the league. Not sure what value adding another conference game really brings to your league. To me, the 4/8 model is the best model.

Also, your schedule gets stale if you have the same teams on it every year. Sometimes it is cool to look at a conference schedule and see changes each year. I don't like SEC schedule right now because Tennessee only have 1 rotating West opponent. Have 2 rotating opponents was far more preferable.

The OOC schedule is the same way although I think having at least 2 power 5 opponents is a must.

Definitely agree with argument of Utah being in Pac12. You could take Utah and one other team and move them in Pac10/12 in my model. I could see that. One option that I considered (mostly for geographical market) was UNLV to bring Las Vegas/Nevada in the mix. UNLV also is solid in other sports, historically, such as Basketball.

I am trying to keep the leagues more regional and focused on rivals or geographically interesting matchups in my post instead of $$$.
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How about a 5-7 model with even more OOC games? :noidea:
 
Duke
UNC
NC State
Wake Forest
East Carolina
App State
UNC-Charlotte
Western Carolina
Elon
Gardner Webb
NC A&T
North Carolina Central
Campbell
Davidson

split them up into two divisions: Tomato based and Vinegar based
 
Swamp arse Conference:

Florida
Miami
FSU
Texas A&M
LSU
Auburn
Alabama
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Georgia

Hillbilly Conference:

Clemson
South Carolina
Tennessee
Kentucky
VT
WVU
UVA
UNC
NC State
Louisville

Farm & Field conference:

Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Nebraska
OU
Iowa
Texas
Arkansas

Pot Head conference:

USC
Oregon
Washington
BYU
Utah
Colorado
Arizona
Arizona State
UCLA
Oklahoma State

No Conference championship games, 10 team conferences everyone plays everyone in their conference, rivalries, champions go to the playoffs. It's perfect!
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I’d like to see 6 power conferences of 10 teams each. 9 conference games, 3 OOC. No CCGs. Keep the G5 conferences. I truly hate this mega conferences movement. I like it regional not AFC/NFC
 
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