Who goes where when the ACC dissolves?

College football should be dead by the time their GOR expires. If it isn't, then the SEC can take Clem. and FSU. Fuck the rest of them.
 
Jon Deaux said:
College football should be dead by the time their GOR expires. If it isn't, then the SEC can take Clem. and FSU. Fuck the rest of them.
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So it would go back to being a basketball conference like before.
 
Duke and Wake to the Sun Belt

Georgia Tech and NC State to the American

Virginia Tech and Miami to the Big Xii

Louisville and Pitt to the MAC

Cuse and BC to Conf-USA

The rest can join the Big East for basketball only and contract their football programs
 
It's a tough question because now that the B1G has grown to 18 schools so I'm not sure how many more they can take before being tapped out and scheduling is impossible. You know they would take Notre Dame if they would come so I wouldn't be shocked if it was Stanford because of that relationship but Miami, Virginia, Duke or Georgia Tech would be in consideration.

The SEC would go after (and I believe land) FSU, Clemson and UNC but would need one more and those candidates would be:

Virginia
VT
Duke
Notre Dame in a crazy scenario

If I could pick the 4th team and ND was out then I'd go Duke just keep the UNC/Duke rivalry and put the SEC men's basketball as the top conference.
 
Wild Turkey said:
It's a tough question because now that the B1G has grown to 18 schools so I'm not sure how many more they can take before being tapped out and scheduling is impossible. You know they would take Notre Dame if they would come so I wouldn't be shocked if it was Stanford because of that relationship but Miami, Virginia, Duke or Georgia Tech would be in consideration.

The SEC would go after (and I believe land) FSU, Clemson and UNC but would need one more and those candidates would be:

Virginia
VT
Duke
Notre Dame in a crazy scenario

If I could pick the 4th team and ND was out then I'd go Duke just keep the UNC/Duke rivalry and put the SEC men's basketball as the top conference.
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The B1G would love ND and Norf Carolina
 
Miami can go straight to Hades where they belong
 
Tharvot said:
The B1G would love ND and Norf Carolina
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I don't think UNC would pick you guys over the SEC. If they did that would be fine we take FSU and Clemson and call it a day but honestly, we don't need any of them and there is an argument adding teams is more trouble than it's worth.

I don't see Clemson and FSU increasing the brand more than it is but they are both capable of pulling their own financial weight and fit regionally so it makes sense but isn't a deal we have to close.

There is a scenario that probably has a 50% chance of working where 4 schools (FSU, Clemson, ND and UNC) take offers and the rest just stay together. It wouldn't be any worse than what the Big 12 has pieced together and at some point could potentially poach a few teams like West Virginia and UCF away. I'd say just two but if UNC gets a shot at moving the opportunity and money would be too great for them not to so I think they are gone if the other two are.

I'd put Notre Dame at 85% staying independent and as long as the majority of ACC schools stick together that should be very possible.
 
Wild Turkey said:
I don't think UNC would pick you guys over the SEC. If they did that would be fine we take FSU and Clemson and call it a day but honestly, we don't need any of them and there is an argument adding teams is more trouble than it's worth.

I don't see Clemson and FSU increasing the brand more than it is but they are both capable of pulling their own financial weight and fit regionally so it makes sense but isn't a deal we have to close.

There is a scenario that probably has a 50% chance of working where 4 schools (FSU, Clemson, ND and UNC) take offers and the rest just stay together. It wouldn't be any worse than what the Big 12 has pieced together and at some point could potentially poach a few teams like West Virginia and UCF away. I'd say just two but if UNC gets a shot at moving the opportunity and money would be too great for them not to so I think they are gone if the other two are.

I'd put Notre Dame at 85% staying independent and as long as the majority of ACC schools stick together that should be very possible.
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A 20 school conf is doable using the pod system for schedule rotation. 9 conf games. Can go to 10 conf games with a protected rivalry game outside your pod matchups. That would probably mean fewer OOC matchups. Any more teams than 20 and its pretty difficult to try to create schedules where schools play everyone every couple years.

ND and UNC are big enough brands that it makes sense, and high academic standards would mean the B1G would be happy to take them on. Whether or not those schools would ever consider the jump to the B1G is another story, but for sure ND is the least likely to make a move unless absolutely forced to.

If the writing is on the wall for the ACC, then I don't think UNC would have any heartburn leaving their tobacco road friends behind. Proximity means SEC is probably a better fit, but proximity seems to matter very little these days (see the B1G West Coast).

I don't foresee the B1G being terribly interested in many of the other ACC schools. FSU or Miami would be possibly considered but neither is a great fit. Virginia is a fit geographically and academically, but pretty bad football means a meh addition. Pitt or Syracuse would be logical geographically too but neither seem to be under consideration. Clemson has SEC written all over them.
 
Stanford and Cal go crawling back to PAC 2/MW with SMU hoping to latch on after all.
 
Wild Turkey said:
I don't think UNC would pick you guys over the SEC. If they did that would be fine we take FSU and Clemson and call it a day but honestly, we don't need any of them and there is an argument adding teams is more trouble than it's worth.

I don't see Clemson and FSU increasing the brand more than it is but they are both capable of pulling their own financial weight and fit regionally so it makes sense but isn't a deal we have to close.

There is a scenario that probably has a 50% chance of working where 4 schools (FSU, Clemson, ND and UNC) take offers and the rest just stay together. It wouldn't be any worse than what the Big 12 has pieced together and at some point could potentially poach a few teams like West Virginia and UCF away. I'd say just two but if UNC gets a shot at moving the opportunity and money would be too great for them not to so I think they are gone if the other two are.

I'd put Notre Dame at 85% staying independent and as long as the majority of ACC schools stick together that should be very possible.
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lmao, every school would pick the Big Ten over the SEC. There is a big revenue gap between the two conferences. Nobody ever talks about it because the view is that the Big Ten can't have everybody. I for one would love to see the Big Ten challenge that hypothesis.
 
Hitman Hart said:
lmao, every school would pick the Big Ten over the SEC. There is a big revenue gap between the two conferences. Nobody ever talks about it because the view is that the Big Ten can't have everybody. I for one would love to see the Big Ten challenge that hypothesis.
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The GAP isn't that large because what happens is the SEC typically signs their deal first and then the B1G follows but if you track the future revenue proformas per school it all catches up. For example in 2022 the B1G did about 40mm more than the SEC total revenue (which is about 2.8mm per school). In 2022 the B1G distributed about 9mm per school last year but it doesn't account for the 23mm supplemental distribution the conference made during COVID to each school which the conference is paying off.

Summary - The difference in revenue isn't going to make a difference to these schools.
 
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