So what is the latest news on the OU and Texas to SEC situation?

OlyDuck said:
yeah nothing says rematch like an entirely different roster and coaches

how many head coaches has Florida had since then?

neither of those games are a rematch
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It won't matter, it is for the fanbase/ratings. Trust me, Oklahoma and Texas will open-up with a big-time matchup that has some kind of history to it. That was the trend with Missouri and Texas A&M. Mike Slive even spoke about how much effort they put into having a strong opener citing how Arkansas and South Carolina's entrance was a dud because their first SEC matchup was actually between the two of them. Greg Sankey has followed Mike Slive's roadmap on many items so I imagine he is of the same mind on this topic.

I am thinking one of those two rematches is a great possibility for Oklahoma as it would bring eyeballs.
 
Volbound1700 said:
It won't matter, it is for the fanbase/ratings. Trust me, Oklahoma and Texas will open-up with a big-time matchup that has some kind of history to it. That was the trend with Missouri and Texas A&M. Mike Slive even spoke about how much effort they put into having a strong opener citing how Arkansas and South Carolina's entrance was a dud because their first SEC matchup was actually between the two of them. Greg Sankey has followed Mike Slive's roadmap on many items so I imagine he is of the same mind on this topic.

I am thinking one of those two rematches is a great possibility for Oklahoma as it would bring eyeballs.
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I never remember there being "some kind of history" to A&M vs Florida or Mizzou vs Georgia. That opening SEC games back in 2012.

A&M/Florida have only played 4 times prior to A&M joining the SECl..and one of those was in the '76 Sun Bowl. Mizzou/Georgia only played once prior to Mizzou joining the SEC...the 1960 Orange Bowl. Educate me on the history between those please.
 
Deep Creek said:
I never remember there being "some kind of history" to A&M vs Florida or Mizzou vs Georgia. That opening SEC games back in 2012.

A&M/Florida have only played 4 times prior to A&M joining the SECl..and one of those was in the '76 Sun Bowl. Mizzou/Georgia only played once prior to Mizzou joining the SEC...the 1960 Orange Bowl. Educate me on the history between those please.
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I was tempted to do face palm but you are a good posture and I don't want negative score. You clearly didn't read my post to understand what I was talking about.

The trend that I am describing is having a big-time matchup for the new teams that will draw attention. This was described at length by Mike Slive. Sure, I guess LSU could play Oklahoma or Alabama.

However, I guarantee you that you won't see a matchup like Oklahoma-Vandy or Oklahoma-Kentucky to start off play. They will have a big-time opener (along with Texas). However, I was guessing that Oklahoma-Georgia, for example, would be a great attention grabbing opener from Oklahoma based on the fact that the last time both teams played each other was in an overtime playoff game that might be the most exciting playoff game of all time.
 
@Deep Creek

Also to put another thing straight that you talk about a lot on here. You talk about how Texas A&M has only played Florida 2-3 times and how that shows weakness of conference schedule.

I want to point out, how is that different than the past?

Take Florida-Tennessee prior to Division Split. Both were in the SEC and SEC only had 10 teams but they played a total of 8 times between 1950-1980. That is even less than A&M playing Florida since the Aggies joined the SEC. It was very common in the 1980s and before for teams in leagues to only play 5 annual opponents and 1-2 conference opponents they rarely play and that was it. So your comments about Missouri and Texas A&M not playing a lot of SEC schools is actually more of a trend (and was even worse) historically.


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Volbound1700 said:
I was tempted to do face palm but you are a good posture and I don't want negative score. You clearly didn't read my post to understand what I was talking about.

The trend that I am describing is having a big-time matchup for the new teams that will draw attention. This was described at length by Mike Slive. Sure, I guess LSU could play Oklahoma or Alabama.

However, I guarantee you that you won't see a matchup like Oklahoma-Vandy or Oklahoma-Kentucky to start off play. They will have a big-time opener (along with Texas). However, I was guessing that Oklahoma-Georgia, for example, would be a great attention grabbing opener from Oklahoma based on the fact that the last time both teams played each other was in an overtime playoff game that might be the most exciting playoff game of all time.
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i dont doubt they will try and have them play big games but at the same time to base it off games from when no one was either roster, hardly any of the same coaches just seems silly.
2008? the team that plays the upcoming games were like 2 and 3 years old at the time.
 
OlyDuck said:
i dont doubt they will try and have them play big games but at the same time to base it off games from when no one was either roster, hardly any of the same coaches just seems silly.
2008? the team that plays the upcoming games were like 2 and 3 years old at the time.
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It isn't about that, it is about hype. I mean that part is a guess but I think it is a pretty good guess. Georgia-Oklahoma would be a high hype game that would get a lot of views. A great matchup for Oklahoma to play as an opener for the SEC.
I mean Alabama-Oklahoma or LSU-Oklahoma might be just as possible.

Keep in mind this isn't driven based on the players but based on the fans and tv ratings. I think it would draw fan interest.
 
Volbound1700 said:
It isn't about that, it is about hype. I mean that part is a guess but I think it is a pretty good guess. Georgia-Oklahoma would be a high hype game that would get a lot of views. A great matchup for Oklahoma to play as an opener for the SEC.
I mean Alabama-Oklahoma or LSU-Oklahoma might be just as possible.

Keep in mind this isn't driven based on the players but based on the fans and tv ratings. I think it would draw fan interest.
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yeah but fan interest on names alone would be good enough you dont need some false hype about a 16 year old or even a 6 or 7 year old "rematch"
 
OlyDuck said:
yeah but fan interest on names alone would be good enough you dont need some false hype about a 16 year old or even a 6 or 7 year old "rematch"
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I am lost. Both are top programs, they have a recent history of playing each other in a historical matchup, etc. To me, it seems like a win-win.

However, please let me know who Oklahoma should open up with in the SEC. I guarantee you it will be either Alabama, Florida, Georgia, or LSU. They won't get a small name because they want the hype. I can see maybe Texas A&M or Tennessee (if Tennessee gets better) but I think both of them are far less likely than the four listed.
 
Volbound1700 said:
I am lost. Both are top programs, they have a recent history of playing each other in a historical matchup, etc. To me, it seems like a win-win.

However, please let me know who Oklahoma should open up with in the SEC. I guarantee you it will be either Alabama, Florida, Georgia, or LSU. They won't get a small name because they want the hype. I can see maybe Texas A&M or Tennessee (if Tennessee gets better) but I think both of them are far less likely than the four listed.
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im not saying it wont be UGA or Florida.
Im saying this is not a rematch. no player on either team is the same. whole coaching staffs have changed.
billing it, hyping it, advertising it as a match up between 2 storied programs blah blah blah is fine.
but to call either game a rematch is dumb.
 
Wild Turkey said:
Depth is massive in the SEC and OU and UT are going to be surprised. That was Malzahn’s real down fall because even in really good years we struggled to actually field a full roster at the end of the season.

Just ask Alabama, who has the most depth of anyone, how that affected their team last year.
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Lmao. The b12 middle is much better than the SEC. SEC is two top teams and chumps with inflated rankings.
 
ELTEXAN said:
Lmao. The b12 middle is much better than the SEC. SEC is two top teams and chumps with inflated rankings.
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The B12 is one team that shows up every other year at best.

STFU
 
OlyDuck said:
im not saying it wont be UGA or Florida.
Im saying this is not a rematch. no player on either team is the same. whole coaching staffs have changed.
billing it, hyping it, advertising it as a match up between 2 storied programs blah blah blah is fine.
but to call either game a rematch is dumb.
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Fair enough. I can agree to that.
 
Volbound1700 said:
@Deep Creek

Also to put another thing straight that you talk about a lot on here. You talk about how Texas A&M has only played Florida 2-3 times and how that shows weakness of conference schedule.

I want to point out, how is that different than the past?

Take Florida-Tennessee prior to Division Split. Both were in the SEC and SEC only had 10 teams but they played a total of 8 times between 1950-1980. That is even less than A&M playing Florida since the Aggies joined the SEC. It was very common in the 1980s and before for teams in leagues to only play 5 annual opponents and 1-2 conference opponents they rarely play and that was it. So your comments about Missouri and Texas A&M not playing a lot of SEC schools is actually more of a trend (and was even worse) historically.


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The problem with your pointing to old schedules like that is that it precedes CFB on TV. Back then TV didn't drive the need for teams to play each other more often. Since the OU/UGA v. NCAA case, it's all about TV inventory, and even more so today. It is absurd that ATM has been in the SEC for 12 years and we have yet to play them in College Station. Playing Bama every 6 years is terrible.

I was at that UGA Mizzou game ... it's called the "Old Man Football" game. One of their D players mouthed off about how the SEC played Old Man football and they were going to show UGA what it's like to play a B12 wide open offense. We were up by 2 or 3 scores in the fourth and we had about 10,000 people there in two sections. We got an "Old Man Football, clap, clap, clap" cheer going for about 10 minutes, it was great.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Fair enough. I can agree to that.
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now the fact that Oklahoma and UGA are set to play in 23 as it is you could then bill it as a rematch and it would make more sense

if they do go for 24 what happens to Oklahoma Tenn game

if they wait to 25 does any big match up as the first SEC game lose shine if Oklahoma loses to Michigan in the non conference portion?

same for Texas if they lose to Michigan in 24 or Ohio state in 25
 
Volbound1700 said:
I was tempted to do face palm but you are a good posture and I don't want negative score. You clearly didn't read my post to understand what I was talking about.

The trend that I am describing is having a big-time matchup for the new teams that will draw attention. This was described at length by Mike Slive. Sure, I guess LSU could play Oklahoma or Alabama.

However, I guarantee you that you won't see a matchup like Oklahoma-Vandy or Oklahoma-Kentucky to start off play. They will have a big-time opener (along with Texas). However, I was guessing that Oklahoma-Georgia, for example, would be a great attention grabbing opener from Oklahoma based on the fact that the last time both teams played each other was in an overtime playoff game that might be the most exciting playoff game of all time.
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My bad if I misunderstood. I had to look up the opening SEC games for A&M and Mizzou and I couldn't see any history between the two per se. Those opening opponents of Florida and Georgia were definitely better than an A&M vs South Carolina or Mizzou vs Vandy would have been.

And feel free to go ahead and face palm me. I don't take any of this seriously or personally. I'm a former high school principal and superintendent so you ain't gonna hurt my feelings. I don't have any left after spending years in those jobs.
 
Volbound1700 said:
@Deep Creek

Also to put another thing straight that you talk about a lot on here. You talk about how Texas A&M has only played Florida 2-3 times and how that shows weakness of conference schedule.

I want to point out, how is that different than the past?

Take Florida-Tennessee prior to Division Split. Both were in the SEC and SEC only had 10 teams but they played a total of 8 times between 1950-1980. That is even less than A&M playing Florida since the Aggies joined the SEC. It was very common in the 1980s and before for teams in leagues to only play 5 annual opponents and 1-2 conference opponents they rarely play and that was it. So your comments about Missouri and Texas A&M not playing a lot of SEC schools is actually more of a trend (and was even worse) historically.


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I just think it is silly to be in a conference with teams and not play them with any frequency.
 
Deep Creek said:
My bad if I misunderstood. I had to look up the opening SEC games for A&M and Mizzou and I couldn't see any history between the two per se. Those opening opponents of Florida and Georgia were definitely better than an A&M vs South Carolina or Mizzou vs Vandy would have been.

And feel free to go ahead and face palm me. I don't take any of this seriously or personally. I'm a former high school principal and superintendent so you ain't gonna hurt my feelings. I don't have any left after spending years in those jobs.
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meh. by name maybe.
they joined in 2012
South Carolina was coming off a 2011 where they were 11-2 and ranked 9
Vandy was 6-7.
but in 2012 Vandy got ranked 23 and was 9-4 and South Carolina ranked 8th with a 11-2 record
 
OlyDuck said:
meh. by name maybe.
they joined in 2012
South Carolina was coming off a 2011 where they were 11-2 and ranked 9
Vandy was 6-7.
but in 2012 Vandy got ranked 23 and was 9-4 and South Carolina ranked 8th with a 11-2 record
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It is based off name more than current standings. Big Name programs bring eyeballs even if they are not ranked and are struggling.
 
OlyDuck said:
now the fact that Oklahoma and UGA are set to play in 23 as it is you could then bill it as a rematch and it would make more sense

if they do go for 24 what happens to Oklahoma Tenn game

if they wait to 25 does any big match up as the first SEC game lose shine if Oklahoma loses to Michigan in the non conference portion?

same for Texas if they lose to Michigan in 24 or Ohio state in 25
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Scuttlebutt is that game may get canceled … our return was in 2030 and they are saying we won’t play a game with no return. I’m bummed.
 
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