What Is The PAC’s or Big 12’s Move?

ND vowed to never play them again (WV)
Iowa actually vowed to never play Missouri again, lasted almost 100 years. It was when Iowa had their first black player, Missouri's president sent a letter to Iowa saying they will only play Iowa if Iowa left their black player at home. Iowa has only played Missouri in a bowl game since then.
 
I'd prefer to watch some of those matchups instead of Rutgers vs Illinois or something similar. But, I live in Texas and have no idea what a fan in Florida or somewhere similar would prefer. How about Floridians. Would you prefer to watch games like Rutgers vs Illinois or Baylor vs Arizona?

Bottom line is none of the four really draw national eyeballs.
I was thinking them starting over and trying to maximize what each has left. I think I'd merge, keep the PACN and try to utilize the different time zones with those brands and rivalry games. Agree there are dog matchups there that not many will care about but, you have that all over the place anyway.
 
Iowa actually vowed to never play Missouri again, lasted almost 100 years. It was when Iowa had their first black player, Missouri's president sent a letter to Iowa saying they will only play Iowa if Iowa left their black player at home. Iowa has only played Missouri in a bowl game since then.
WOW
 
The prize is obviously Notre Dame, but West Virginia and Washington will likely be the next 2024/2025 grabs.

Sorry Duckies.
Unless the BIG takes an entirely different stance on it's members academic's then WVU will never be a member of that conference, though they would bring some interesting matchups, same with the SEC (east).

WVU's best fit is the ACC and the ACC should want them too imo. They claimed that they passed on WVU over academics when the BigEast folded but then after the BIG took Maryland from them and WVU was locked into the Big12 and no longer an option they took Louisville who's academics were nearly the same so, jmo I think they have a real shot at being in the ACC when (not IF because schools ARE going to leave, the money gap is going to force that) they start losing schools again.
Now I'm not saying your gonna put WVU vs.________ on Saturday afternoon/evening and beat the ratings/views of what the SEC and BIG are going to be putting in those slots but you put em on say, Thursday night or Saturday noon ect. and have the Backyard brawl v Pitt, the Schwartzwalder trophy game vs Syracuse, The Black Diamond trophy game vs VT , WVU vs Louisville (market as Hatfield & McCoy's game) plus new regional games that could easily develop into good rivalry/trophy games vs UVA, Wake, and I'm sure any of the other NC schools due to so many WV transplants living in NC and I think the ACC could get some better interest/ratings than some of the current ones.
 
I might be able to think of like 15-20 teams that will get in the BIG before WVU... Not gonna happen for a very long time, if ever.

Speaking of WVU, they're a great example of why realignment the past 30 years sucks for actual fans.
 
In no special order, are ahead of WVU in the BIG pecking order. Not necessarily exhaustive.

Notre Dame
Washington
Oregon
Stanford
Cal
Utah
Colorado
Arizona
Arizona State
UNC
Virginia
NC State
Georgia Tech
Clemson
Miami
Florida State
Kansas
Houston
 
I might be able to think of like 15-20 teams that will get in the BIG before WVU... Not gonna happen for a very long time, if ever.

Speaking of WVU, they're a great example of why realignment the past 30 years sucks for actual fans.
Saw this online from a WVU fan just today actually:
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Alot of truth in that letter, regional matchups/rivalries are a huge part of what has made CFB what it is, at least the good parts. Good thing USC took UCLA with em, good thing Texas made the SEC take OU too :ranger:
 
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Unless the BIG takes an entirely different stance on it's members academic's then WVU will never be a member of that conference, though they would bring some interesting matchups, same with the SEC (east).

WVU's best fit is the ACC and the ACC should want them too imo. They claimed that they passed on WVU over academics when the BigEast folded but then after the BIG took Maryland from them and WVU was locked into the Big12 and no longer an option they took Louisville who's academics were nearly the same so, jmo I think they have a real shot at being in the ACC when (not IF because schools ARE going to leave, the money gap is going to force that) they start losing schools again.
Now I'm not saying your gonna put WVU vs.________ on Saturday afternoon/evening and beat the ratings/views of what the SEC and BIG are going to be putting in those slots but you put em on say, Thursday night or Saturday noon ect. and have the Backyard brawl v Pitt, the Schwartzwalder trophy game vs Syracuse, The Black Diamond trophy game vs VT , WVU vs Louisville (market as Hatfield & McCoy's game) plus new regional games that could easily develop into good rivalry/trophy games vs UVA, Wake, and I'm sure any of the other NC schools due to so many WV transplants living in NC and I think the ACC could get some better interest/ratings than some of the current ones.

I'm more seeing WVU to the SEC.

Academics with Big 10 is likely a disqualifier.

They'd be foolish to entertain an ACC offer that restrains them through 2036.
 
Saw this online from a WVU fan just today actually:
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Strong agree. Nebraska, OU, and Colorado weren't necessarily rivals of KU per se but it does largely destroy the regionality college sports had in the area. Add Missouri and I have very similar sentiments to this WVU fan. Realignment is longterm bad for CFB, imo.
 
Unless the BIG takes an entirely different stance on it's members academic's then WVU will never be a member of that conference, though they would bring some interesting matchups, same with the SEC (east).

WVU's best fit is the ACC and the ACC should want them too imo. They claimed that they passed on WVU over academics when the BigEast folded but then after the BIG took Maryland from them and WVU was locked into the Big12 and no longer an option they took Louisville who's academics were nearly the same so, jmo I think they have a real shot at being in the ACC when (not IF because schools ARE going to leave, the money gap is going to force that) they start losing schools again.
Now I'm not saying your gonna put WVU vs.________ on Saturday afternoon/evening and beat the ratings/views of what the SEC and BIG are going to be putting in those slots but you put em on say, Thursday night or Saturday noon ect. and have the Backyard brawl v Pitt, the Schwartzwalder trophy game vs Syracuse, The Black Diamond trophy game vs VT , WVU vs Louisville (market as Hatfield & McCoy's game) plus new regional games that could easily develop into good rivalry/trophy games vs UVA, Wake, and I'm sure any of the other NC schools due to so many WV transplants living in NC and I think the ACC could get some better interest/ratings than some of the current ones.
The different stance is Ohio State/ND/Michigan bending over the minnows in the Big 10 to give them theirs or else. Likewise in the SEC eventually. That's when some of these mid programs start being absorbed into the superconferences-- when it works for the top money generators in those conferences.
 
I'm seeing Colorado and Kanas as next BIG 10 announcement for the 2025 season.

Possibly Washington in place of one or the other.
 
I'm more seeing WVU to the SEC.

Academics with Big 10 is likely a disqualifier.

They'd be foolish to entertain an ACC offer that restrains them through 2036.
WVU would crawl on their belly through glass to be in any of the 3. I just think once the wheels stop turning (for awhile anyway) that its the most realistic landing spot for them.
 
I'm seeing Colorado and Kanas as next BIG 10 announcement for the 2025 season.

Possibly Washington in place of one or the other.
I don't think Kansas gets invited if the whales are taking the bait in the PAC-12/ACC until the NCAAT is no longer in the hands of the NCAA. That's where the money in CBB is. Or KU FB is magically competent very quickly. Also think equal payouts are gonna be numbered in the superconference era.
 
WVU would crawl on their belly through glass to be in any of the 3.
All their options are pretty terrible in the near term. ACC would be cool as a fan of the sport for rivalries, but the ACC itself looks like it is fucked so idk.
 
The different stance is Ohio State/ND/Michigan bending over the minnows in the Big 10 to give them theirs or else. Likewise in the SEC eventually. That's when some of these mid programs start being absorbed into the superconferences-- when it works for the top money generators in those conferences.
Possibly yep. A WVU vs Kentucky (again Hatfield v McCoys trophy ect.) or Tennessee v WVU game or South Carolina on SECN ect. Good eyeball grabber imo.
 
Possibly yep.
Yep. That's what people really mean when they talk about adding value ... like Purdue, Iowa, and Minnesota are massive values.

We've gotten to the point we're concern trolling over UW and Oregon's value to the Big10; a conference with fucking Purdue in it. That's not sustainable if you want a super conference unless your goal is precisely to end equal revenue sharing.
 
All their options are pretty terrible in the near term. ACC would be cool as a fan of the sport for rivalries, but the ACC itself looks like it is fucked so idk.
Oh unless they find some MAJOR money somewhere then they absolutely are but WVU is either way so both could make the best of what happened. That's what's so funny about the thinking of Notre Dame riding into the ACC as a full member and saving the day. These contracts that the BIG and SEC are going to get are going to dwarf what the ACC is going to get even WITH Notre Dame and Notre Dame is not going to join ANY conference as a full member and make less money than they could joining elsewhere when they can go to ANY conference and they'd welcome the Irish with open arm$.
 
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