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yep, Nomar was very good for 6 years but didn't do anything outside of 97-03.
Ripken had a 112 OPS+. That doesn't sound that impressive until you consider:
A. He was a shortstop. And not only that, but offensive shortstops were very rare when Ripken came up. Most shortstops with a higher career OPS+ started their careers either late into Ripken's career, or afterwards. Ripken's OPS+ ranks 14th among HOF shortstops, but most of those guys had careers under 5,000 plate appearances (which doesn't even make up for half of Ripken's career).
B. He had almost 13,000 plate appearances.
C. And that was with him being pretty meh in the 90's. His OPS+ up until 1991 was 127
Ripken finished in the top 10 in WAR eight times from 1983-1991 and led three times, including two 10+ WAR seasons. He also ranks 4th all-time in defensive WAR.
Now, I will agree that the 1992-2001 version of Ripken is overrated. But I think people have that image of Ripken in their heads instead of the 1982-91 version of Ripken, whether it's because of The Streak or recency bias.
I thought this was obvious but I suppose not: I was responding to trolling with, you guessed it, trolling.Nomar had a whopping six good years all at all star but not mvp caliber. Ripken had 9 all star caliber years including 3 mvp caliber years and another 7 years where he contributed positively to the team (there's the longevity). Nomar's other seasons were absolutely worthless whether because of injuries or otherwise.
Hard to tell with you!I thought this was obvious but I suppose not: I was responding to trolling with, you guessed it, trolling.
I miss the MLB Daily Thread.
What team was Aaron on at the time?It was more of an Aaron moment than braves moment.
Thanks for the compliment, sir!Hard to tell with you!
Fulton County?What team was Aaron on at the time?
Iconic doesn’t necessarily mean greatest. The Bartman play gets shown more than the Renteria walk off single and is more well known.I’m surprised the Marlins isn’t Renterias walk off in Game 7 of the WS.
Dodgers is Gibsons HR IMO
Giants I would argue Bonds 756.
And for the Braves it’s Matzek for me.That is up there among the clutchest postseason pitching moments in history.
Cardinals 2011 game 6 Freese HR was awesome. But 2006 Waino as a rookie striking out Beltran with bases loaded game 7 with 2 out in the NLCS was a game changer for the organization. Beltran had murdered the Birds that decade. And Waino coming on as a closer that year late was huge. Cards hadn’t had a WC since the early 80s. So yeah 2006 for me
Iconic doesn’t necessarily mean greatest. The Bartman play gets shown more than the Renteria walk off single and is more well known.
I would definitely vote for Renteria's series winning hit over the Bartman play. I mean, if you ask the average fan I bet they would say that the Bartman play is more a Cubs moment anyway. But the big thing that year of course was Livan's series turning complete game on short rest in the ALCS. More than a "moment" though.
But here's another fun option for the Marlins. This game was a fucking blast to watch
I completely forgot about that play
Hell yeah it was fun to watch, the Giants losing is always fun.Pudge scoring the go-ahead run was a play at the plate too, I haven't seen that one since it happened. Like I said it was just a great game to watch whether or not you even like baseball.