Sanky Update On SEC Expansion

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Greg Sankey updates state of SEC amid conference realignment and 2025 scheduling plans

Greg Sankey stepped to the podium on Monday to open SEC Media Days.
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Nothing earth-shattering but a couple of things of note:

- Sounds like it is going to be 2025 before Texas and OU join so no buyout or early release
- Will be a single division model with 8 or 9 games (they can't get the schools to agree the conference wants 9 from what I've heard)
- SEC not looking to add more members (it will be 2036 when ACC schools come available IMO)

Basically nothing new.
 
Wild Turkey said:
www.saturdaydownsouth.com

Greg Sankey updates state of SEC amid conference realignment and 2025 scheduling plans

Greg Sankey stepped to the podium on Monday to open SEC Media Days.
www.saturdaydownsouth.com www.saturdaydownsouth.com

Nothing earth-shattering but a couple of things of note:

- Sounds like it is going to be 2025 before Texas and OU join so no buyout or early release
- Will be a single division model with 8 or 9 games (they can't get the schools to agree the conference wants 9 from what I've heard)
- SEC not looking to add more members (it will be 2036 when ACC schools come available IMO)

Basically nothing new.
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This pretty much solidifies the idea that you can't get out of the GORs.
No hurry to do this until the CFP expands in 2026.
 
GOR is real and Sankey wants to avoid any appearance of tampering in case the ACC dissolves. Likely won’t happen and they are waiting until the ACC deal is up
 
outofyourmind said:
Isn't this what he has said before ??
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Pretty much all of it is. Sanky isn't going to slip and give out new info unless he has planned it. His motto is "answer the questions you want to answer not what you are asked".
 
Wild Turkey said:
Pretty much all of it is. Sanky isn't going to slip and give out new info unless he has planned it. His motto is "answer the questions you want to answer not what you are asked".
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That was my impression.
Stick to the script.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
This pretty much solidifies the idea that you can't get out of the GORs.
No hurry to do this until the CFP expands in 2026.
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duckboy33 said:
GOR is real and Sankey wants to avoid any appearance of tampering in case the ACC dissolves. Likely won’t happen and they are waiting until the ACC deal is up
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I read an article (can't remember where) and basically, a lawyer was quoted saying that GORs weren't Ironclad but you are going to spend a ton of money to attempt to defeat them and it is going to take a long time in the court. He followed that up saying that GORs are basically doing what they were intended to do and if anyone breaks one it will be a negotiated settlement but he didn't see much room for that negotiation because the conferences would rather keep members than gain cash.

It's a double-edged sword because it will keep the ACC intact but by the end of it the members that have the best shot of moving on will be so frustrated that it is pretty guaranteed they will do so but if you do get them to stay good luck ever getting them to sign a GOR again.

A perfect example of this is Oregon and Washington which I doubt seriously that either school will renew the PAC GOR or sign another with a different conference (not named B1G or SEC) unless there is an out.
 
Wild Turkey said:
It's a double-edged sword because it will keep the ACC intact but by the end of it the members that have the best shot of moving on will be so frustrated that it is pretty guaranteed they will do so
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It seems that sitting in a conference for 10-12 years at $40 Million Dollars less per year will take it's toll on those teams' image.
How do they 'keep up' in the mean time before the GOR expires.
 
outofyourmind said:
It seems that sitting in a conference for 10-12 years at $40 Million Dollars less per year will take it's toll on those teams' image.
How do they 'keep up' in the mean time before the GOR expires.
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With NIL tapping out boosters it will be hard to close gaps.

FSU is a perfect example where Jimbo had a tough time hanging onto his top assistants (especially those that were the best recruiters) because the SEC constantly raided them. He ended up with crappy O-Line coach and a defensive coordinator that no one wanted.

It will only get worse.
 
Wild Turkey said:
I read an article (can't remember where) and basically, a lawyer was quoted saying that GORs weren't Ironclad but you are going to spend a ton of money to attempt to defeat them and it is going to take a long time in the court. He followed that up saying that GORs are basically doing what they were intended to do and if anyone breaks one it will be a negotiated settlement but he didn't see much room for that negotiation because the conferences would rather keep members than gain cash.

It's a double-edged sword because it will keep the ACC intact but by the end of it the members that have the best shot of moving on will be so frustrated that it is pretty guaranteed they will do so but if you do get them to stay good luck ever getting them to sign a GOR again.

A perfect example of this is Oregon and Washington which I doubt seriously that either school will renew the PAC GOR or sign another with a different conference (not named B1G or SEC) unless there is an out.
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I wouldn't believe that lawyer. What he says makes no sense. If they weren't ironclad, OU and TX would be in the SEC today.

A GOR lawsuit wouldn't be that expensive (relatively speaking) and wouldn't take that much time. It's an agreement. Lawsuits over agreements aren't overly complicated and don't involve years of discovery like an anti-trust lawsuit might. The fact situation just isn't that complicated. Also, there is so much money involved here that it would be worth whatever it cost for both sides to go to the mat.
 
Wild Turkey said:
With NIL tapping out boosters it will be hard to close gaps.

FSU is a perfect example where Jimbo had a tough time hanging onto his top assistants (especially those that were the best recruiters) because the SEC constantly raided them. He ended up with crappy O-Line coach and a defensive coordinator that no one wanted.

It will only get worse.
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Especially when the conferences get to set their own rules for coaching limits, etc. Already talk about that. Hard to compete with an SEC school that isn't limited to 10 on the field coaches. Bama is already the island for misfit toys. Imagine if there is no rule on the number of coaches a school can have.
 
If there was a way around GOR, the ACC wouldn’t be standing as constructed
 
duckboy33 said:
If there was a way around GOR, the ACC wouldn’t be standing as constructed
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they haven't been desperate enough.. and no one has invited them yet.. We'll see how ironclad it is when they start to see their contemporaries double their shares to what they are getting in the ACC
 
No one is leaving ACC right now. To be honest, it is to the advantage of B1G and SEC to wait anyways. Consolidate the teams they had and watch the ACC programs over a 12 year span to see if they improve or weaken their stock.

The only team in the ACC that really is going to be fought over is UNC.
 
outofyourmind said:
It seems that sitting in a conference for 10-12 years at $40 Million Dollars less per year will take it's toll on those teams' image.
How do they 'keep up' in the mean time before the GOR expires.
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I thought I read the low estimates were 60-70 million less a year?
 
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