How about ND, FSU, Miami and Washington to the B1G... no Oregon

[Wild Turkey]

I'd think the pecking order would be:

1) ND
2) if ND wants assurance that Stanford joins, to be a catalyst for ND joining, that's the next best school.

At this point you're at 18, with 3 west coast schools and ND, who obviously would like travelling to the west coast, so they'd be okay making 2 trips per year out there. Hell they already do it this year.

If you go to 20, I would still take 2 more west coast teams. That's just more west coast inventory to sell. Grabbing a UNC/UVA doesn't get you more games in the west coast.

Imagine something like this:

Michigan at UCLA -- 8:00 Fox
Nebraska at Stanford -- 10:00 FS1
Wisconsin at Cal -- 10:30 FS2/BTN

BTN getting content at 10:00/10:30 is something they've never had before. Being able to have games on BTN at the Noon, 3:30, 7:30, 10:30 slots is great programming. Same for FS1/FS2.

I don't live in a world where Cal is going to get an invite to the B1G. I seriously hope it happens (because it would be good for the SEC by weakening the B1G) but I put those odds at 0.0000000001%.

 

[ericd7633]

I don't live in a world where Cal is going to get an invite to the B1G. I seriously hope it happens (because it would be good for the SEC by weakening the B1G) but I put those odds at 0.0000000001%.

This would only be after adding ND and Stanford, and assuming they want to go to 20. 20 is easier to do from a scheduling standpoint. Cal isn't a great football team, but adding them and either Oregon or Washington, essentially is the death bed to the P12, and then you have the whole coast to yourself. I can also see them adding Oregon and Washington instead of Cal. But two west coast teams make more sense to me than any other scenario.

 

[Wild Turkey]

This would only be after adding ND and Stanford, and assuming they want to go to 20. 20 is easier to do from a scheduling standpoint. Cal isn't a great football team, but adding them and either Oregon or Washington, essentially is the death bed to the P12, and then you have the whole coast to yourself. I can also see them adding Oregon and Washington instead of Cal. But two west coast teams make more sense to me than any other scenario.

I could see ND, Stanford, Oregon and Washington being added but never Cal.

If they get ND I’m betting they are going to want UNC and Virginia first before looking west.

I’ll concede that if the B1G needs to take Stanford to entice ND it’s a done deal.

 

[ericd7633]

I could see ND, Stanford, Oregon and Washington being added but never Cal.

If they get ND I’m betting they are going to want UNC and Virginia first before looking west.

I’ll concede that if the B1G needs to take Stanford to entice ND it’s a done deal.

Yeah, I could see that first scenario too. And honestly from a football perspective it's a good one because there's still natural rivalries there. I know it's minor, but Oregon, UW and Stanford have all been in the same division since the P12 expanded, so there's some rivalry aspect to it. I know Oregon fans probably don't like Stanford given how that series has played out in the last decade or so.

 

[PeoplesChicken]

ND ain't joining the B1G. They have NBC by the balls and will get themselves a major cash cow. If they join any conference it will be the ACC

 

[Wild Turkey]

Yeah, I could see that first scenario too. And honestly from a football perspective it's a good one because there's still natural rivalries there. I know it's minor, but Oregon, UW and Stanford have all been in the same division since the P12 expanded, so there's some rivalry aspect to it. I know Oregon fans probably don't like Stanford given how that series has played out in the last decade or so.

I’m all for the B1G raiding the PAC and taking ND because that leaves the SEC to cherry pick the ACC in 2036. Best scenario ever for us.

 

[OlyDuck]

I could see ND, Stanford, Oregon and Washington being added but never Cal.

If they get ND I’m betting they are going to want UNC and Virginia first before looking west.

I’ll concede that if the B1G needs to take Stanford to entice ND it’s a done deal.

Arguments can be made both ways.
adding west coast alleviates some of the travel to UCLA and USC if they pod or west division.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Arguments can be made both ways.
adding west coast alleviates some of the travel to UCLA and USC if they pod or west division.

Again nothing would make me happier.

I’m fine with what the SEC has and if everything stays just like it is Auburn will start getting players that Clemson, FSU and Miami have been winning on the recruiting trail. For the SEC I don’t see expansion as being necessary at all.

I think it happens eventually when the ACC implodes which I don’t see it lasting in its current form past 2036. The money is too great but I could also see a scenario where the SEC takes UNC and Virginia and calls it a day.

 

[ralphiewvu]

Any chance the B1G expands without ND?

 

[OlyDuck]

Any chance the B1G expands without ND?

refer to the movie Dumb and Dumber
Mary: Id say more like one out of a Million
Lloyd: So you're telling me there's a chance.

the numbers and stuff probably arent the same but there's always a chance

 

[duckboy33]

It always felt like Notre Dame, Stanford, Oregon and Washington was the next move. I'm sticking with that prediction.

 

[TaikoTiger]

Just throwing this out there:

I'm seeing more people reporting on this same list of schools that include (my guess is one guy put this out and everyone else jumping on the bandwagon and we aren't even going to pretend that people are actually doing journalism):

ND
Stanford
Cal
Oregon
Washington
Miami
FSU

The mastermind behind the new list of the week is

 

[Wild Turkey]

It always felt like Notre Dame, Stanford, Oregon and Washington was the next move. I'm sticking with that prediction.

Notre Dame is the trigger and that comes down to what NBC comes up with. If NBC steps up (which I believe they will) then I think we are settled for at least a few years in the B1G, SEC and ACC. The PAC and B12 are the ones that could see movement and the advantage is mostly with the B12 as they've weathered their storm for the most part.

 

[duckboy33]

Notre Dame is the trigger and that comes down to what NBC comes up with. If NBC steps up (which I believe they will) then I think we are settled for at least a few years in the B1G, SEC and ACC. The PAC and B12 are the ones that could see movement and the advantage is mostly with the B12 as they've weathered their storm for the most part.

It may be 2 months from now, it could be 2 years from now but ND joining the Big Ten looks inevitable. Just a matter of when

 

[NU_WTF?]

The mastermind behind the new list of the week is

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@ralphiewvu ?

 

[Wild Turkey]

It may be 2 months from now, it could be 2 years from now but ND joining the Big Ten looks inevitable. Just a matter of when

If NBC comes close to 75mm then it could be 2036 before they have to choose. That is a long time to have a 50 million dollar spread between school budgets.

 

[duckboy33]

If NBC comes close to 75mm then it could be 2036 before they have to choose. That is a long time to have a 50 million dollar spread between school budgets.

If ND waits until then, they'll

1) Make less money than they would in the Big Ten
2) Won't be in the room for expansion decisions

ND realizes this. The value their independence and don't want to give up. But college football is changing whether they like it or not. They can hold out until the last second, while leaving money on the table. Or they can have a big say in the direction of the sport and make more money. That's why this decision feels inevitable.

 

[Wild Turkey]

If ND waits until then, they'll

1) Make less money than they would in the Big Ten
2) Won't be in the room for expansion decisions

ND realizes this. The value their independence and don't want to give up. But college football is changing whether they like it or not. They can hold out until the last second, while leaving money on the table. Or they can have a big say in the direction of the sport and make more money. That's why this decision feels inevitable.

1. They will be allowed into the B1G no matter when they decide and will get a full share. If NBC comes in close to 75 million they will take the paycut to stay independent and have proven that.

2. I don’t see the B1G expanding without them so of course they’ll get a say.

 

[duckboy33]

1. They will be allowed into the B1G no matter when they decide and will get a full share. If NBC comes in close to 75 million they will take the paycut to stay independent and have proven that.

2. I don’t see the B1G expanding without them so of course they’ll get a say.

If they wait until 2035, the Big Ten will expand, with or without them. The ACC schools will become available. ND will have a spot at the table but I doubt the Big Ten will let them guide which way expansion goes. Without the ACC propping up ND's independence, ND will be out of options.

That's why the writing is on the wall and ND's best move is to jump in within the next 2 year. It's when they have the most leverage and can have the most influence moving forward.

 

[Wild Turkey]

If they wait until 2035, the Big Ten will expand, with or without them. The ACC schools will become available. ND will have a spot at the table but I doubt the Big Ten will let them guide which way expansion goes. Without the ACC propping up ND's independence, ND will be out of options.

That's why the writing is on the wall and ND's best move is to jump in within the next 2 year. It's when they have the most leverage and can have the most influence moving forward.

B1G isn’t doing anything without ND. There is literally no reason to and major financial reasons not to.

It ain’t no picnic going to 20 teams and unless they are completely stupid doing it just for the sake of doing it would be foolish.