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ACC:
1. Clemson (3rd nationally)
2. Notre Dame (9th nationally)
3. Virginia Tech (17th nationally)
4. Miami FL (21st nationally)
5. North Carolina (25th nationally)
6. Louisville (35th nationally)
7. Pittsburgh (47th nationally)
8. Virginia (54th nationally)
9. Boston College (57th nationally)
10. Wake Forest (58th nationally)
11. NC State (65th nationally)
12. Florida State (75th nationally)
13. Georgia Tech (78th nationally)
14. Duke (79th nationally)
15. Syracuse (81st nationally)

Big 12:
1. Texas (10th nationally)
2. Oklahoma State (15th nationally)
3. TCU (19th nationally)
4. Oklahoma (20th nationally)
5. Iowa State (32nd nationally)
6. Baylor (33rd nationally)
7. West Virginia (38th nationally)
8. Kansas State (43rd nationally)
9. Texas Tech (66th nationally)
10. Kansas (109th nationally)

Big Ten:
1. Ohio State (1st nationally)
2. Wisconsin (5th nationally)
3. Penn State (7th nationally)
4. Michigan (18th nationally)
5. Indiana (22nd nationally)
6. Northwestern (24th nationally)
7. Iowa (26th nationally)
8. Minnesota (29th nationally)
9. Nebraska (37th nationally)
10. Purdue (49th nationally)
11. Illinois (60th nationally)
12. Michigan State (73rd nationally)
13. Rutgers (80th nationally)
14. Maryland (84th nationally)

PAC 12:
1. Oregon (6th nationally)
2. USC (12th nationally)
3. Utah (23rd nationally)
4. Washington (30th nationally)
5. Stanford (31st nationally)
6. California (42nd nationally)
7. Arizona State (51st nationally)
8. UCLA (55th nationally)
9. Arizona (61st nationally)
10. Washington State (62nd nationally)
11. Oregon State (72nd nationally)
12. Colorado (74th nationally)

SEC:
1. Alabama (2nd nationally)
2. Georgia (4th nationally)
3. Florida (8th nationally)
4. Auburn (11th nationally)
5. LSU (13th nationally)
6. Tennessee (27th nationally)
7. Texas A&M (28th nationally)
8. Kentucky (34th nationally)
9. Ole Miss (39th nationally)
10. South Carolina (46th nationally)
11. Mississippi State (48th nationally)
12. Arkansas (59th nationally)
13. Missouri (63rd nationally)
14. Vanderbilt (92nd nationally)

Top 10 G5:
1. UCF (14th nationally)
2. BYU (16th nationally)
3. Boise State (36th nationally)
4. Memphis (40th nationally)
5. Cincinnati (41st nationally)
6. Tulsa (44th nationally)
7. Houston (45th nationally)
8. Marshall (50th nationally)
9. Appalachian State (52nd nationally)
10. Louisiana (53rd nationally)
 
Odds of making the playoffs:

Ohio State - 68.7%
Alabama - 68.3%
Clemson - 61.8%
Georgia - 45.4%
Wisconsin - 36.6%
Oregon - 30.7%
Penn State - 18.4%
Notre Dame - 14.9%
Florida - 14.4%
USC - 13.0%
BYU - 9.2%
Oklahoma State - 4.5%
Texas - 4.0%
Auburn - 2.6%
Virginia Tech - 1.6%
Utah - 1.3%
Miami FL - .9%
LSU - .8%
Michigan - .6%
TCU - .5%
North Carolina - .4%
Northwestern - .3%
Stanford - .2%
Indiana - .2%
Washington - .2%
UCF - .1%
Iowa - .1%
 
Will an undefeated PAC team make the playoff? They will be playing 2 less than the B1G and 4/5 less than pretty much everyone else. Would an undefeated PAC team be deserving over others, say even 1 loss teams?
 
Blackshirts BLVD said:
Will an undefeated PAC team make the playoff? They will be playing 2 less than the B1G and 4/5 less than pretty much everyone else. Would an undefeated PAC team be deserving over others, say even 1 loss teams?
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I doubt we end up with a ton of one loss teams that didn’t win their conference championship. I think it’s almost a guarantee that an undefeated P5 champ gets in
 
duckboy33 said:
I doubt we end up with a ton of one loss teams that didn’t win their conference championship. I think it’s almost a guarantee that an undefeated P5 champ gets in
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I want to agree, but 6 or 7 to 10 or 11 is a HUGE difference.

If Florida loses to UGA in a close game, but Bama beats UGA in the CCG.... I think there is a fair argument for a 9-1 or 10-1 Florida to make it in over a 6-0 or 7-0 PAC champ. Not trying to sound disrespectful to the PAC, just being honest or say an 8-1 B1G team that lost a close game. Playing more games should absolutely matter which is why I think Notre Dame playing only 12 should hurt them when comparing them to others playing in CCGs same went for the Big12 when they eliminated their CCG for a little while.
 
Blackshirts BLVD said:
I want to agree, but 6 or 7 to 10 or 11 is a HUGE difference.

If Florida loses to UGA in a close game, but Bama beats UGA in the CCG.... I think there is a fair argument for a 9-1 or 10-1 Florida to make it in over a 6-0 or 7-0 PAC champ. Not trying to sound disrespectful to the PAC, just being honest or say an 8-1 B1G team that lost a close game. Playing more games should absolutely matter which is why I think Notre Dame playing only 12 should hurt them when comparing them to others playing in CCGs same went for the Big12 when they eliminated their CCG for a little while.
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That’s fine. But at the same time, Notre Dame has always got in after going undefeated. I’m sure we can find scenarios to create a bunch of one loss teams but I don’t necessarily think that’s going to happen. A 8-1 Big Ten non champ has zero chance vs an undefeated PAC team. Zero
 
duckboy33 said:
That’s fine. But at the same time, Notre Dame has always got in after going undefeated. I’m sure we can find scenarios to create a bunch of one loss teams but I don’t necessarily think that’s going to happen. A 8-1 Big Ten non champ has zero chance vs an undefeated PAC team. Zero
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I don't know...the B1G isn't 4-19 against OOC ranked teams for the last 3 years.
 
duckboy33 said:
That’s fine. But at the same time, Notre Dame has always got in after going undefeated. I’m sure we can find scenarios to create a bunch of one loss teams but I don’t necessarily think that’s going to happen. A 8-1 Big Ten non champ has zero chance vs an undefeated PAC team. Zero
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There are all sorts of possibilities ... the SEC could easily have 3 one loss teams - Bama, UF, UGA - or an undefeated champ and two 1 loss teams. The ACC, believe it or not, might be in a similar situation with Miami, ND and Clemson.

The B12 sucking so far is the best thing to happen to you. A 1 loss or better UT or OU champ would have gotten in. OU is eliminated, and UT has not looked good.

We expect tOSU to win the B1G and if they do, you have B1GC, SECC and ACCC. Then you have to hope to get in over a 1 loss ACC or SEC team. I don’t include the B1G in that scenario in that they have the same problem you have, although not as bad - playing too few games. But, let’s say the Wisky loses only to tOSU in the B1GCG, that’s a problem for you, too, although they will only have played 2 more games than your champ. But 2 is significant.

You continually dismiss the fact that you will play at least 4 games fewer than other teams. It makes sense, I would argue the same thing if I were in your shoes. But, at the end of the day, playing 4/5 less games where you dodge the best teams in the other division weakens your case. But more importantly, allowing a team to compete having played 4/5 less games to get beat up, tired, injured, etc., simply isn’t fair. Hell, many argued it isn’t fair when a team like Bama gets in without having to play in the SECCG, and that’s just one game. But playing 4 less games gives a team a huge competitive advantage I don’t think you will be able to overcome.

Your best bet is for the B12 to continue to stink it up, the ACC to have Miami and ND each lose 2 games with Clemson running the table, tOSU win the B1G with a perfect slate, UGA to beat UF soundly but lose to Bama twice. I am quite confident that two one loss SECs teams will get in before a 7-0 PACC.

By the way, the PAC did exactly what I said they would do by giving your best teams easy crossover games. You guys got UCLA, Cal got ASU, USC got WSU, Utah got OSU. That’s exactly what they should have done to give the conference the best chance at an 7-0 champ. But, that won’t help your case ... the committee will see that, and that will cut against you ... 4 or 5 less games and you dodged the better competition.
 
Rolltide94 said:
I don't know...the B1G isn't 4-19 against OOC ranked teams for the last 3 years.
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And that’s not relevant in the slightest. We are talking about 2020 not 2017-2019. And we will be talking about one team, not the entire conference. And if it’s Oregon, they would have won their most recent game against a ranked OOC team
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
There are all sorts of possibilities ... the SEC could easily have 3 one loss teams - Bama, UF, UGA - or an undefeated champ and two 1 loss teams. The ACC, believe it or not, might be in a similar situation with Miami, ND and Clemson.

The B12 sucking so far is the best thing to happen to you. A 1 loss or better UT or OU champ would have gotten in. OU is eliminated, and UT has not looked good.

We expect tOSU to win the B1G and if they do, you have B1GC, SECC and ACCC. Then you have to hope to get in over a 1 loss ACC or SEC team. I don’t include the B1G in that scenario in that they have the same problem you have, although not as bad - playing too few games. But, let’s say the Wisky loses only to tOSU in the B1GCG, that’s a problem for you, too, although they will only have played 2 more games than your champ. But 2 is significant.

You continually dismiss the fact that you will play at least 4 games fewer than other teams. It makes sense, I would argue the same thing if I were in your shoes. But, at the end of the day, playing 4/5 less games where you dodge the best teams in the other division weakens your case. But more importantly, allowing a team to compete having played 4/5 less games to get beat up, tired, injured, etc., simply isn’t fair. Hell, many argued it isn’t fair when a team like Bama gets in without having to play in the SECCG, and that’s just one game. But playing 4 less games gives a team a huge competitive advantage I don’t think you will be able to overcome.

Your best bet is for the B12 to continue to stink it up, the ACC to have Miami and ND each lose 2 games with Clemson running the table, tOSU win the B1G with a perfect slate, UGA to beat UF soundly but lose to Bama twice. I am quite confident that two one loss SECs teams will get in before a 7-0 PACC.

By the way, the PAC did exactly what I said they would do by giving your best teams easy crossover games. You guys got UCLA, Cal got ASU, USC got WSU, Utah got OSU. That’s exactly what they should have done to give the conference the best chance at an 7-0 champ. But, that won’t help your case ... the committee will see that, and that will cut against you ... 4 or 5 less games and you dodged the better competition.
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I’m not trying to argue with you. You want to argue that the PAC should be out so when UGA loses to Bama twice, they still have a chance. I get it. And they probably still will as long as the PAC champ doesn’t go undefeated, which I think is likely
 
SMU should get in, when they finish undefeated
 
how is WI so high? They returning a good team?
 
How the hell are we still ranked 10?
 
Thiefery said:
like me, they haven't given up on a true blue blood monster #HookEm
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When you go dormant for a decade, you have to earn you blue blood status back. Clemson has kinda taken a shit on the term blue blood meaning anything too
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
When you go dormant for a decade, you have to earn you blue blood status back. Clemson has kinda taken a shit on the term blue blood meaning anything too
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they are a flash in a pan sir... what happens once he leaves back to his mama's home in Bama? They keep rolling?

If Texas goes dormant again this decade than I'll concede.. Hopefully we pull a Bama after a decade of hardship.
 
Thiefery said:
they are a flash in a pan sir... what happens once he leaves back to his mama's home in Bama? They keep rolling?

If Texas goes dormant again this decade than I'll concede.. Hopefully we pull a Bama after a decade of hardship.
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It’s gone on too long to be considered a flash in the pan. A flash in the pan was Auburn with Cam Newton.

And I doubt Dabo leaves Clemson
 
Blackshirts BLVD said:
Will an undefeated PAC team make the playoff? They will be playing 2 less than the B1G and 4/5 less than pretty much everyone else. Would an undefeated PAC team be deserving over others, say even 1 loss teams?
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Well Oregon is going to lose at least two games this season so they won’t be in the playoffs.
 
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