PAC 12 Eliminated From The Playoff In Week One

As long as SC wins the conference with 1 loss or none they’ll always get in. They are a blue blood and get the benefit of the doubt like it or not.
 
Kachina said:
They really aren't.

Utah's loss wasn't that bad. On the road and only favored by 2.5 points, add to that they almost won by a stupid throw at the end finished the game.

In a crazy world, if Utah goes undefeated, I think they have an outside, but possible, chance of making it.

Don't think it'll happen, but the Utes loss today in Gainsville is NOT a bad loss.
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Extremely unlikely. PAC’s only chance is USC…literally their only shot
 
ralphiewvu said:
As long as SC wins the conference with 1 loss or none they’ll always get in. They are a blue blood and get the benefit of the doubt like it or not.
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If they lost to Utah and beat ND in the last regular season game, then sure there is a chance. Outside of that would be bleak for a one loss bid. Losing to ND in the last week would most likely kill it and losing to the weaker Pac teams also hurts their chances.

UCLA also still has a chance, but probably has to run the table.

Also not impossible for Oregon or Utah to win out and get in, but they'd need a lot of help.
 
fordman84 said:
Utah is going to need a quality win to overcome this, but it is early so could happen. Will need USC to stay highly ranked and Oregon to somehow get back in the rankings.
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^^^This^^^

If USC keeps winning, they'll be in. Utah needs to win out, which is possible for them and they also need USC and UCLA to both be in the 8-10 win range to have a shot.

It would also help Utah's case if Florida finishes in the 8-10 win range because that will make yesterday more about Florida being underrated than Utah being overrated.
 
Wizardhawk said:
If they lost to Utah and beat ND in the last regular season game, then sure there is a chance. Outside of that would be bleak for a one loss bid. Losing to ND in the last week would most likely kill it and losing to the weaker Pac teams also hurts their chances.

UCLA also still has a chance, but probably has to run the table.

Also not impossible for Oregon or Utah to win out and get in, but they'd need a lot of help.
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I don't think so. This is a case where having a conference championship game could work against USC. Losing to Utah would pretty much put USC out of the CCG. The loss to Utah would keep them from getting the one more quality win that they would need to cover the loss to Utah.
 
Wizardhawk said:
If they lost to Utah and beat ND in the last regular season game, then sure there is a chance. Outside of that would be bleak for a one loss bid. Losing to ND in the last week would most likely kill it and losing to the weaker Pac teams also hurts their chances.

UCLA also still has a chance, but probably has to run the table.

Also not impossible for Oregon or Utah to win out and get in, but they'd need a lot of help.
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A one loss P12 champ SC may have issues if there are 4 P5 undefeated teams from the other 4 conferences. It honestly depends who those teams are in the B12 and ACC. An undefeated SC is getting in over anyone in the ACC and all but 2 teams (and even that’s a stretch) in the B12.

Im not saying SC will win the PAC or anything, I’m just saying the PAC is never out of it if SC stays unbeaten.
 
ralphiewvu said:
A one loss P12 champ SC may have issues if there are 4 P5 undefeated teams from the other 4 conferences. It honestly depends who those teams are in the B12 and ACC. An undefeated SC is getting in over anyone in the ACC and all but 2 teams (and even that’s a stretch) in the B12.

Im not saying SC will win the PAC or anything, I’m just saying the PAC is never out of it if SC stays unbeaten.
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Yeah, if USC is a 1 loss PAC champion, they'll get in over a 1 loss champion from the Big 12 or ACC. They'd have shot vs a 1 loss B1G champion, if for no other reason than the media will be hyping them up.

But we have a long way to go before USC should even be talked about in those terms. They have a good shot at being 7-0 going into the Utah game...if they come out of that still unbeaten, then they can be seriously talked about for the cfp.
 
trojanfan12 said:
Yeah, if USC is a 1 loss PAC champion, they'll get in over a 1 loss champion from the Big 12 or ACC. They'd have shot vs a 1 loss B1G champion, if for no other reason than the media will be hyping them up.

But we have a long way to go before USC should even be talked about in those terms. They have a good shot at being 7-0 going into the Utah game...if they come out of that still unbeaten, then they can be seriously talked about for the cfp.
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Your first paragraph was exactly my point for this thread, the PAC is never out of it if SC is undefeated or even a 1 loss champ.

I don’t think SC will go undefeated or even have less then 2 losses. But 9-3 is the worst I see you going. You’ll beat Stanford next weekend and while Oregon State will be tough up there I think you win. I have ya’s at 10-2. But anything is possible.
 
ralphiewvu said:
Your first paragraph was exactly my point for this thread, the PAC is never out of it if SC is undefeated or even a 1 loss champ.

I don’t think SC will go undefeated or even have less then 2 losses. But 9-3 is the worst I see you going. You’ll beat Stanford next weekend and while Oregon State will be tough up there I think you win. I have ya’s at 10-2. But anything is possible.
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Yeah, 10-2 is where I have us as well. The 3 most likely losses are Utah, UCLA and Notre Dame. I think we win 1 of those.
 
trojanfan12 said:
I don't think so. This is a case where having a conference championship game could work against USC. Losing to Utah would pretty much put USC out of the CCG. The loss to Utah would keep them from getting the one more quality win that they would need to cover the loss to Utah.
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Losing the midseason Utah game, but beating ND before also winning the CCG would leave them a decent chance, but for sure depends on what also happened in the SEC and B1G top end.
 
Wizardhawk said:
Losing the midseason Utah game, but beating ND before also winning the CCG would leave them a decent chance, but for sure depends on what also happened in the SEC and B1G top end.
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SEC maybe but the B1G is heavy on one side. They aren’t putting a 1 loss Michigan/PSU non champ in over a 1 loss Pac12 champ SC.
 
Wild Turkey said:
Florida is unranked and Utah was 7.

It’s a bad loss.
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When did Preseason rankings define everything? If Florida wins 9-10 games, which is very possible, that loss for Utah doesn't look that bad.
 
Wizardhawk said:
Problem is, they were two of the 3 that had any kind of cred going into the season. It takes more than just being the best in the Pac to get into the 4.

USC for sure still has the ability to reach it. Problem for them is, they'd probably have to be perfect and end the season v a pretty solid ND team. It's a tough ask.
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Are there any high profile OOC games remaining for some of the other teams?

Does UCLA play any big name? I think USC plays Notre Dame so that gives them a shot.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Are there any high profile OOC games remaining for some of the other teams?

Does UCLA play any big name? I think USC plays Notre Dame so that gives them a shot.
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They play Alabama twice.

Alabama State and South Alabama.
 
Volbound1700 said:
When did Preseason rankings define everything? If Florida wins 9-10 games, which is very possible, that loss for Utah doesn't look that bad.
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Agree. If Utah wins out, that will give them what should be quality wins against USC, UCLA and Oregon, plus whomever they play in the CCG.

And as I said upthread, if Florida is in the 8-10 win range it then becomes more about Florida having been underrated than Utah being overrated.

Especially when you consider that Utah was only a 2.5 point favorite and were on the road in one of cfb's more hostile stadiums.
 
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