ESPN & FOX Agree To Start Early Big 12 Deal Talks

That’s exactly how it works. You’re used to the Big 12 where you had superior pull but in the SEC Mississippi State will have the same weight to their voice as you do. The Mississippi State president is representing the SEC right now in the playoff expansion meetings.

The B1G office can’t decide to expand and not get the buy-in from the individual schools. Plus Iowa is a very respected member of the B1G so I’m not sure where you’re getting that garbage.
lol.. just like how the rest of the SEC all knew about UT and ou coming right?? LOL there's levels to this and you don't have that clearance.. now go make us a fresh pot of coffee you 2nd rate Alabama school
 
lol.. just like how the rest of the SEC all knew about UT and ou coming right?? LOL there's levels to this and you don't have that clearance.. now go make us a fresh pot of coffee you 2nd rate Alabama school
Considering it was aTm that leaked it… yeah they all knew.
 
lol.. just like how the rest of the SEC all knew about UT and ou coming right?? LOL there's levels to this and you don't have that clearance.. now go make us a fresh pot of coffee you 2nd rate Alabama school

I think Texas admins and fans are going to have a tough time when they realize that the SEC won't cater to their every need, and instead they will receive the same treatment as Mizzou and Vanderbilt.
 
I think Texas admins and fans are going to have a tough time when they realize that the SEC won't cater to their every need, and instead they will receive the same treatment as Mizzou and Vanderbilt.
LOL.. Texas is going to throw it's weight around.. we are the most valuable brand in College Sports.. Richest school in the country.. If you think that they have an equal say as South Carolina.. You just don't understand life and I don't want to be the one to tell you the truth about Santa
 
LOL.. Texas is going to throw it's weight around.. we are the most valuable brand in College Sports.. Richest school in the country.. If you think that they have an equal say as South Carolina.. You just don't understand life and I don't want to be the one to tell you the truth about Santa

Last time I check A&M was the richest school, but regardless, we'll see how you lot do with the massive reality check you'll be getting when you join the SEC.
 
Last time I check A&M was the richest school, but regardless, we'll see how you lot do with the massive reality check you'll be getting when you join the SEC.
lol last time you checked your head must have been in the sand..

lol we destroy conferences.. say goodbye to your beloved SEC..

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lol last time you checked your head must have been in the sand..

lol we destroy conferences.. say goodbye to your beloved SEC..

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I think it's your head that's in the sand. If anyone has dominated the Big 12, it sure as hell isn't Texas. That's like Auburn saying they dominate the SEC. haha
 

After reading this I sort of took this as Yormark didn’t get what he thought he might in this round of negotiations.
 
NEW YORK -- Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark described recent discussions with television partners ESPN and Fox as "meaningful" as the conference looks into the possibility of striking a media rights deal almost two years before the current contract expires.

"So (the conference) is not a free agent," Yormark told The Associated Press on Wednesday. "I can't go out there and talk to an Amazon or an Apple or CBS. But in a world that's changing, why don't we explore an early conversation which could, maybe, lead to a negotiation. And I can tell you that we've had meaningful conversations for the last three-plus weeks, and we'll see where they go."

The Big 12 announced in late August it planned to engage ESPN and Fox, even though the exclusive negotiating window between the conference and the networks does not open until February 2024. The Big 12's deals with the networks expire in June of that year.

"There's no timetable," Yormark said. "If we can't get to a deal, then the fallback is 16 months from now. But I'm a big fan of ESPN. I'm a big fan of Fox. We're at a point right now where it's important to elevate and amplify our brand. And I think they're the two best partners to do it."

The Big 12 is in transition as it prepares for Cincinnati, BYU, Houston and Central Florida to join next year and for Texas and Oklahoma to depart by 2025. The conference is likely to be 14 teams for at least one season. It currently has 10 schools.

Since being named commissioner in June to replace the retiring Bob Bowlsby, Yormark has talked publicly about the possibility of adding more schools to the Big 12, even saying the conference would like to grow "out West."

Since it was announced in June that USC and UCLA would be leaving the Pac-12 for the Big Ten, the Pac-12 has been trying to negotiate a new television deal as a way to stabilize its membership.


The Pac-12's deal expires next year, and the conference did open the exclusive negotiating window with ESPN, but that has now closed without a deal being struck. The Pac-12 could still land a deal with ESPN, but it can now bring its rights to the open market.

Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff has said his conference being next in line for a new media rights deal after the Big Ten's $7 billion megadeal with three networks was an advantage the Pac-12 had over the Big 12.

Yormark said engaging with ESPN and Fox was an effort to create some certainty for the conference.

"The strategy was clarity and stability as we're looking to grow this conference in every respect," Yormark said. "Obviously, it has to be the right economic deal, but it's not just about economics. It's also about the partnership, and what it can do for our business and our brand and the profile of our schools, which is critically important to me."
 

After reading this I sort of took this as Yormark didn’t get what he thought he might in this round of negotiations.
yep, that's what i am gathering.. him throwing out Amazon by name shows... that he's looking for anyone to use as a bargaining chip to get more money. People laughing about the low ball offer to the PAC, and automatically think Big12 is getting much more when it's probably not.
 
yep, that's what i am gathering.. him throwing out Amazon by name shows... that he's looking for anyone to use as a bargaining chip to get more money. People laughing about the low ball offer to the PAC, and automatically think Big12 is getting much more when it's probably not.
Both conferences will feel like they are getting “low balled” but neither will have teams that draw national eyeballs once those four leave. While they may have good football teams, that doesn’t mean they’ll get the eyeballs. As crummy as it sounds, a game like Ohio State/Rutgers will attract more viewers than Oklahoma State/TCU….even when the latter are both highly ranked and undefeated. They just will.
 
FOX and ESPN know what they offered to the PAC and I wouldn't expect them to be higher than those numbers. However, the PAC is complicated because some of the schools are not interested in a long-term GOR and the Networks want an out clause if schools leave. At this point those seem to be huge sticking points.

The Big 12 doesn't have these concerns and if anything they will want language if they add schools but again that is complicated since the networks will not want them to just be any schools.

I get why the Big 12 went in early because schools like AZ, ASU and Utah want numbers to compare to but it maybe too early for the networks to truly commit. However the Big 12 might have gotten some ballpark figures they can share with potential adds and if they are comparable to what the PAC is offering then it might be enough.

This part of the game is leverage and the leverage schools like AZ and ASU have is they tell the PAC we want even revenue sharing or we will go to the Big 12 and make the same money with equal standing. This essentially kills the PAC at that point.
 
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