12 team CFP today

Red_Alert said:
If Oregon wins out they will certainly be in the discussion against other one loss teams for the CFP.

The reason is it's known the most progress is made between week 1 and week 2 of the CFB season.

IMO Oregon and tOSU have made the most progress between weeks 1 and 2.

The CFP is about putting the best teams in at the end of the regular season and CCG's.

Not the best teams of week 1.
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So which one loss teams would they be in the discussion over?

tOSU has one win on the season against a team with a winning record. That is Toledo.

Oregon has a big win against.........who? BYU? They are 3-3 with losses to ND and Arkansas the last two games.

Then with the PAC -- they played two solid OOC games. Oregon was embarrassed by Georgia. Utah lost to Florida. So is it improving from the beginning of the year or is it the PAC is terrible again?
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Tell me the scenario where Oregon gets in? I will wait patiently to hear this.

If Oregon had lost a good game to Georgia - then yes, they'd have a shot. They lost by 46.

Which one loss team would Oregon be picked over?
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They are already ranked 10 and play the #9 team this weekend. They could easily get in over a one loss TCU, Ole Miss plays Alabama, Clemson would have to drop one as well.

Losing late is always worse than losing early and Oregon has already made a good deal of ground up. Saying there is zero chance is ignorant
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Oregon's CFP hopes ended in week 1 this year and NO ONE is going to give a team bonus points for losing to any team by 46.

What would get Oregon bonus points. If they had scheduled Georgia State, in your scenario, instead of Georgia. Now they aren't a 1 loss team. They are undefeated.
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In the 4 team CFP you are correct. In a 12 teams CFP they would get bonus points for doing it, when compared to other teams who had a loss or two.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
So which one loss teams would they be in the discussion over?

tOSU has one win on the season against a team with a winning record. That is Toledo.

Oregon has a big win against.........who? BYU? They are 3-3 with losses to ND and Arkansas the last two games.

Then with the PAC -- they played two solid OOC games. Oregon was embarrassed by Georgia. Utah lost to Florida. So is it improving from the beginning of the year or is it the PAC is terrible again?
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STFU, SEC Cock Gobbler.

We don't know the answer to that question because the season's only half way over.

You can be sure the CFP committee is going to be somewhat forgiving of an opening game loss with an entirely new coaching staff, relatively new roster, in a game played less than an hour and a half from Athens, GA.
They'll look at the body-of-work and did they beat teams 'like they should'.

If Oregon can get to 12-1 as PAC champs, they will certainly be in the discussion with other one loss teams.

They'll likely get in over an 11-1 team, unless it's Georgia with the head-to-head.

That's why the Big 12 added a CCG in 2017 with just 10 teams and a round robin schedule. That missing 12th win for either Baylor or TCU in 2014 gave Ohio St the edge for the CFP even though they'd had a 14 pt loss to (6-6) Virginia Tech in week 2.

It ended up that the 12th win was the right call since tOSU won it all.
 
Wild Turkey said:
You would be signing up for fools gold if you bought tickets right now because this list is going to change drastically. A 12-team playoff is a paper tiger because it's going to produce a lot of blowouts.

I mean does anyone really want to see a rematch of Georgia vs Oregon except for OD?

Honestly, the field should be cut to 8 if they want to expand and just play the other teams in bowl games. In fact, I would argue the bowl system needs to be reworked more than the playoff so that better matchups are generated.
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I mean who would read my post and think that I was suggesting anyone purchase tickets. Of course that is going to change dramatically. Most of those teams will play each other and other good teams. Lighten up francis.gif. Enjoy the ride ... it's fun to think about these things.
 
Red_Alert said:
STFU, SEC Cock Gobbler.

We don't know the answer to that question because the season's only half way over.

You can be sure the CFP committee is going to be somewhat forgiving of an opening game loss with an entirely new coaching staff, relatively new roster, in a game played less than an hour and a half from Athens, GA.
They'll look at the body-of-work and did they beat teams 'like they should'.

If Oregon can get to 12-1 as PAC champs, they will certainly be in the discussion with other one loss teams.

They'll likely get in over an 11-1 team, unless it's Georgia with the head-to-head.

That's why the Big 12 added a CCG in 2017 with just 10 teams and a round robin schedule. That missing 12th win for either Baylor or TCU in 2014 gave Ohio St the edge for the CFP even though they'd had a 14 pt loss to (6-6) Virginia Tech in week 2.

It ended up that the 12th win was the right call since tOSU won it all.
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Now I'm a SEC Cock Gobbler........interesting. I'm actually a B1G fan, but I'm not delusional like some fans in our conference. I will let you figure out which fans though are on your own.

That being said -- not difficult to try and figure it out the scenarios.

Take the 3 SEC teams -- Bama, Georgia, Tennessee. Which team is Oregon going to get in over?
If Bama wins the SEC -- they aren't getting in over Georgia with 1 loss.
If Georgia wins the SEC -- they aren't getting in over a 1 loss Tennessee, unless Tennessee gets absolutely dominated by Georgia, as NO ONE wants to see a rematch of Oregon/Georgia.

If Michigan beats OSU -- are you taking 1 loss Oregon over 1 loss Ohio State?
I'd put if OSU beats Michigan, but even I wouldn't put Michigan in with one loss.

Then you have TCU undefeated and Clemson/Syracuse undefeated -- So what scenario do you see playing out that Oregon would get in over other 1 loss teams?

I'm all for the early season losses not meaning much, but they didn't lose, they were utterly destroyed. You don't come back from a 46 point loss. Not happening.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
So which one loss teams would they be in the discussion over?

tOSU has one win on the season against a team with a winning record. That is Toledo.

Oregon has a big win against.........who? BYU? They are 3-3 with losses to ND and Arkansas the last two games.

Then with the PAC -- they played two solid OOC games. Oregon was embarrassed by Georgia. Utah lost to Florida. So is it improving from the beginning of the year or is it the PAC is terrible again?
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Kansas State- I know Tulane is doing good but its still Tulane from a G5
TCU if their 1 loss is to Kansas State who lost to Tulane
 
OlyDuck said:
Kansas State- I know Tulane is doing good but its still Tulane from a G5
TCU if their 1 loss is to Kansas State who lost to Tulane
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The only Big 12 team with a chance to get into the CFP is TCU and that is if they go undefeated. They lose, they aren't getting in.

So while I agree you'd be picked over the teams you mentioned -- you'd need absolute chaos to get to that point.
 
It's fucking amazing that WhoPhoneDis (a.k.a. TrustMeIAmRight) has already declared the season over at the halfway point, the CFP teams chosen, and the natty decided.

"nObOdY iS EvAr gOiNg To BeAt bAmA Or gEoRgiA FoR eVaR AnD eVaR"
 
Red_Alert said:
It's fucking amazing that WhoPhoneDis (a.k.a. TrustMeIAmRight) has already declared the season over at the halfway point, the CFP teams chosen, and the natty decided.

"nObOdY iS EvAr gOiNg To BeAt bAmA Or gEoRgiA FoR eVaR AnD eVaR"
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Feel free to tell me which one loss teams Oregon is going to get in over?

Alabama with 1 loss?
Ohio State with 1 loss?
Georgia with 1 loss?
Tennessee with 1 loss?
Michigan with 1 loss?
Clemson with 1 loss?

Obviously a couple of these teams will finish with zero losses. But which team is Oregon going to get in over?

Michigan loss would be to undefeated Ohio State. As long as they don't lose by 46 -- it'd be a better loss than Oregon has.

Bama's loss would be to Tennessee on a last second field goal and they'd have to beat Georgia to finish with 1 loss. Zero chance Oregon gets in over them.

Tennessee's loss would be to Georgia AT Georgia. As long as they are absolutely embarrassed by Georgia like Oregon, no chance Oregon gets in over them.

Ohio State's one loss would be to undefeated UM -- As long as they don't get boat raced in Columbus by UM -- no chance they take Oregon over them, as they will simply point out the FORTY SIX POINT LOSS by Oregon.

Clemson -- I truly don't know who their one loss would be to. They have Syracuse this weekend, but I can't say I know enough about ACC teams, I just know Syracuse is undefeated. I'd say NC State could have been a loss, but they lost their QB.

Georgia's loss would be to either Tennessee or Alabama -- NO CHANCE Oregon gets in over them. Hell -- a 2 loss Georgia would get in over a 1 loss Oregon after they murdered Oregon like they did.

Unless you are trying to say all these teams are going to lose two of their last 5 or 6 games. T
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
The only Big 12 team with a chance to get into the CFP is TCU and that is if they go undefeated. They lose, they aren't getting in.

So while I agree you'd be picked over the teams you mentioned -- you'd need absolute chaos to get to that point.
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actually i was working sorry that was just off the top of my head.
North Carolina- their 1 loss is ND who just lost to Stanford and lost to Marshall.
Illinois- lost to Indiana comes back around to what i asked early after week 1. which is worse bad loss to top team or loss to a mid or lower team?

Syracuse
Clemson
Ole Miss
Tenn
Ohio State
Mich
who do they lose to and by how much
not going to entertain Alabama because they just had their 1 loss. if they win out they likely climb up to 1 or 2 and it wont matter as Oregon will only be looked at as a 4th possible.
If Oregon and UGA are fighting for 4th then no doubt oregon is out. bigger question comes from would they rather do a rematch in the first game or would it be a risk of a championship game rematch if Oregon and UGA won their first games (longshots are still shots)
 
OlyDuck said:
actually i was working sorry that was just off the top of my head.
North Carolina- their 1 loss is ND who just lost to Stanford and lost to Marshall.
Illinois- lost to Indiana comes back around to what i asked early after week 1. which is worse bad loss to top team or loss to a mid or lower team?

Syracuse
Clemson
Ole Miss
Tenn
Ohio State
Mich
who do they lose to and by how much
not going to entertain Alabama because they just had their 1 loss. if they win out they likely climb up to 1 or 2 and it wont matter as Oregon will only be looked at as a 4th possible.
If Oregon and UGA are fighting for 4th then no doubt oregon is out. bigger question comes from would they rather do a rematch in the first game or would it be a risk of a championship game rematch if Oregon and UGA won their first games (longshots are still shots)
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They would NEVER do a rematch in the CFP of a game that had a 49-3 score the first time they played. If it was even remotely close, I could see it. No one wants to see those teams play again now.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
The only Big 12 team with a chance to get into the CFP is TCU and that is if they go undefeated. They lose, they aren't getting in.

So while I agree you'd be picked over the teams you mentioned -- you'd need absolute chaos to get to that point.
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i forgot Penn State they just dont have any kind of way about them that makes me believe Oregon couldnt beat them
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
They would NEVER do a rematch in the CFP of a game that had a 49-3 score the first time they played. If it was even remotely close, I could see it. No one wants to see those teams play again now.
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prove that they would NEVER do it. show me anything that would suggest that. Alabama walked UGA 42-24 in the SEC championship game but it came back around. and no thats not 46 points but more than 2 possessions is still significant. there were a lot of people that didnt want to see that rematch but we did and it was differnt.
 
WhoPhoneDis (a.k.a. TrustMeIAmRight) has declared the season over.

That's why nobody takes Rainman seriously.
 
OlyDuck said:
i forgot Penn State they just dont have any kind of way about them that makes me believe Oregon couldnt beat the them
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I'm talking more end of the year with one loss than right now. There are a lot of 1 loss teams right now who will have 2, 3 losses by the end of the year.

Alabama
Georgia
Clemson
Ohio State
Michigan
Tennessee

Out of those 6, which teams would you take Oregon over if they finished with 1 loss. We can safely see who the losses will be to for those teams.
 
OlyDuck said:
prove that they would NEVER do it. show me anything that would suggest that. Alabama walked UGA 42-24 in the SEC championship game but it came back around. and no thats not 46 points but more than 2 possessions is still significant. there were a lot of people that didnt want to see that rematch but we did and it was differnt.
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You lost by 46. FORTY SIX. The game was a blowout from the first drive all the way to the last.

There is zero chance the CFP says - you know what would make a great matchup. Georgia can play the team they murdered by seven touchdowns this year.😂
 
Red_Alert said:
WhoPhoneDis (a.k.a. TrustMeIAmRight) has declared the season over.

That's why nobody takes Rainman seriously.
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For Oregon. Yes. Nebraska has the same chance as Oregon to get into the CFP this year.

For the rest of the 7-8 teams at the top -- it will be a fight to see who gets one of the 4 spots.
 
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