Utah Player Offered 1 Million To Leave Utes

Tharvot said:
You mean to tell me that NIL in an unrestricted form has some serious negative consequences? Who could have possibly seen this coming?
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It's new and there are some things that need to be addressed that very likely will be.

The people that are teeth gnashing and hand wringing over this are the same Karen's who said a playoff would ruin college football despite all available evidence showing that playoffs have never ruined or even hurt any sport that has them.
 
trojanfan12 said:
That may be something to look at too. From what I can tell, the collectives are basically a way for the school to make an offer without the school making an offer.
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The schools aren't even supposed to tell the 'collectives' or boosters who to target. Whether that be recruiting or transfers.

If anything punitive comes down from the NCAA, I'd guess that's where it will be.
 
RubinRock said:
I read this as Utah was wanting to pay someone 1 million to leave their own team. Which got me thinking, wish we could have gone back to pay Cullen Harper a milli to leave before the 2008 season.
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I read that as a player was willing to pay Utah one million to get off their football team.

Then I realized if that was a thing, Nebraska woulda had several players offer them a million already.
 
trojanfan12 said:
It's new and there are some things that need to be addressed that very likely will be.

The people that are teeth gnashing and hand wringing over this are the same Karen's who said a playoff would ruin college football despite all available evidence showing that playoffs have never ruined or even hurt any sport that has them.
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I think most reasonable people understood the former system where players were paid in "free tuition" was pretty broken and bad for the players. It also led to a super shady dark payment channel for boosters to pay on the sides.

We shifted almost 180 to a system that is incredibly good for the players, but at the detriment to competition levels across the sport. The old system benefitted large institutions, and this system only exacerbates that issue.

I didn't like the idea of paying players mostly because I didn't know how they would be able to police it or make rules around it to keep schools with vastly different balance sheets on a similar competitive plane. I still don't know how they can go about it.
 
trojanfan12 said:
It's new and there are some things that need to be addressed that very likely will be.

The people that are teeth gnashing and hand wringing over this are the same Karen's who said a playoff would ruin college football despite all available evidence showing that playoffs have never ruined or even hurt any sport that has them.
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I was for a playoff (4 teams was enough though) but I’ve never been comfortable with the NIL.

I didn’t love the portal but accepted it (although it needs to be dialed back). But NIL is a fundamental change that has the ability to ruin the game. The only positive is that a lot of the shady stuff is above board now but the problem is the numbers are going through the roof.

I honestly don’t see any solution that doesn’t involved putting kids under contract. Otherwise we are just creating a yearly auction block and that’s not a good situation for anyone.
 
Tharvot said:
I think most reasonable people understood the former system where players were paid in "free tuition" was pretty broken and bad for the players. It also led to a super shady dark payment channel for boosters to pay on the sides.

We shifted almost 180 to a system that is incredibly good for the players, but at the detriment to competition levels across the sport. The old system benefitted large institutions, and this system only exacerbates that issue.

I didn't like the idea of paying players mostly because I didn't know how they would be able to police it or make rules around it to keep schools with vastly different balance sheets on a similar competitive plane. I still don't know how they can go about it.
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Install a pro system, complete with drafts, players unions, etc.
 
Wild Turkey said:
I was for a playoff (4 teams was enough though) but I’ve never been comfortable with the NIL.

I didn’t love the portal but accepted it (although it needs to be dialed back). But NIL is a fundamental change that has the ability to ruin the game. The only positive is that a lot of the shady stuff is above board now but the problem is the numbers are going through the roof.

I honestly don’t see any solution that doesn’t involved putting kids under contract. Otherwise we are just creating a yearly auction block and that’s not a good situation for anyone.
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That'll change somewhat as players don't pan out for what they're being paid.

If it isn't already, it will eventually become 'performance based'.
"We didn't pay you $250,000 to come here, put in the bare minimums, and sit the bench."

This is still the early stages of NIL.

Water seeks it's own level.
 
Red_Alert said:
That'll change somewhat as players don't pan out for what they're being paid.

If it isn't already, it will eventually become 'performance based'.
"We didn't pay you $250,000 to come here, put in the bare minimums, and sit the bench."

This is still the early stages of NIL.

Water seeks it's own level.
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Yeah but the market for proven players is only going to be more robust.

NIL is a problem.
 
Red_Alert said:
True, but even they'll get performance based stipulations IMO.
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Nothing stoping a sophomore Heisman winner from putting themselves in the portal and asking for 5 million.

That’s a problem.
 
Wild Turkey said:
Nothing stoping a sophomore Heisman winner from putting themselves in the portal and asking for 5 million.

That’s a problem.
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That would be an exception and not the norm, since there's only one Heisman winner per year.

At that level it's still gonna be 'performance based' and I could see his contract being structured similar to head coaches now where there are incentives for Division, Conference, Playoff, and NC's.

Would a school's boosters (or "collaborative" as someone else put it) let themselves get beat in a bidding war for their Heisman winner?
 
Red_Alert said:
That would be an exception and not the norm, since there's only one Heisman winner per year.

At that level it's still gonna be 'performance based' and I could see his contract being structured similar to head coaches now where there are incentives for Division, Conference, Playoff, and NC's.

Would a school's boosters (or "collaborative" as someone else put it) let themselves get beat in a bidding war for their Heisman winner?
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How much do you think Tank Bigsby at Auburn could have sold himself to Georgia?

I’m thinking they would’ve paid at least a million. They had players calling him in the off season trying to get him in the portal. From what I heard it was pretty aggressive.

Offensive tackles alone that are just decent and proven would get at least 300K and the elite ones probably a million.

This keeps going we will find out.
 
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