Volbound1700 Playoff Watch - Week 8

WhosYourDawggy said:
BTW, can the 12-team CFP get here fast enough so we can stop with these types of posts?
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It won't solve anything. There are 68 teams that make March Madness but there are always controversy every year with that Tournament. When we get to 12-team, it will be about the best 2-loss team lol.
 
duckboy33 said:
Less legitimate complaints IMO. New system will let any major conference champ in and the top teams that miss out on their conference title. If you don’t make it at that point, it’s time to just accept your bowl game
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Yea exactly, every P5 controls their own destiny for the most part in the 12 team system.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
LSU really needs TCU or Clemson to lose. They aren't putting a 2 loss team in over undefeated teams.

They'd have a hard time justifying putting them in over 1 loss Oregon/USC as well.

You can't just ignore that FSU loss, even though it was in week 1.

I think this will all be worthless drivel though because LSU will probably lose to Bama or even if they happen to beat Bama, lose in the SEC title game. This is a overreaction to LSU beating a Ole Miss team that just isn't as good as their ranking was.

LSU somehow winning out really would create quite the mess though.
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Yeah Ole Miss was an undefeated SEC team that was rated in the bottom half of top ten (I think # 7). That is basically saying they had NOT played any of the top SEC teams. An undefeated SEC team in October is usually in top 5 unless their schedule is crap.
 
Deep Creek said:
Doesn't that make Oregon's loss look worse? I would think Oregon needs Georgia to beat the shit out of everyone.
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The reason they need Georgia to lose twice is..............There isn't a scenario where Oregon gets in with Georgia in the CFP. If Georgia wins out -- they are #1. Oregon would be playing to hope for the 4th spot. CFP isn't having Georgia/Oregon in a semifinal after what happened the 1st time they played.

If Georgia was to lose 1 game -- that team is going to get into the CFP and with 1 loss, so is Georgia. So Oregon would have to hope for TCU or Clemson to lose, as the B1G will have at least 1 team in.

Nothing Georgia does is going to make that loss look any better. Any time you lose is not good, if you get absolutely boat raced like Oregon -- it is virtually impossible to come back from. It is why the Game Day analysts laughed when Oregon was mentioned as a possible CFP participant.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Yeah Ole Miss was an undefeated SEC team that was rated in the bottom half of top ten (I think # 7). That is basically saying they had NOT played any of the top SEC teams. An undefeated SEC team in October is usually in top 5 unless their schedule is crap.
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Ole Miss could still probably finish with 10 wins. I don't think they'll beat Bama but I wouldn't be shocked if they beat Texas A&M Arkansas and Miss State.

They aren't a bad team they are just a good top 25 level team though, not a upper top 10 level team.
 
OlyDuck said:
if i remember correctly David Pollack was the one who laughed about Oregon being a playoff contender. he also laughed and said Caleb Williams was the best transfer QB (the numbers say otherwise) and also picked UCLA over Oregon
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It was all of the above that laughed. It would have to be absolute chaos for Oregon to get in. And if they were to get in -- it'd HAVE to be in the 2 or 3 spot if Georgia wins out, as there is no chance the CFP makes a Georgia/Oregon matchup in the CFP semi, as no one wants to see that game again. (not even Oregon fans)
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
It was all of the above that laughed. It would have to be absolute chaos for Oregon to get in. And if they were to get in -- it'd HAVE to be in the 2 or 3 spot if Georgia wins out, as there is no chance the CFP makes a Georgia/Oregon matchup in the CFP semi, as no one wants to see that game again. (not even Oregon fans)
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I think this is a problem.

They shouldn't be adjusting seedings just to "avoid a rematch". They need to rank the teams accordingly. How is it fair to UGA if they were #1 to get maybe a tougher team that shoulda been #3 but got pushed back to #4 to "avoid the rematch"?
 
Say Oregon is the best option for #4

But you have a undefeated UGA and undefeated B1G champ & Clemson

Do you just screw Oregon because "we can't have a rematch"? That seems like bad policy. Aren't we supposed to have the 4 best teams?

Or do some crap like push Clemson to #4?
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I think this is a problem.

They shouldn't be adjusting seedings just to "avoid a rematch". They need to rank the teams accordingly. How is it fair to UGA if they were #1 to get maybe a tougher team that shoulda been #3 but got pushed back to #4 to "avoid the rematch"?
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I agree but their seeding hasn’t played out correctly very often anyway.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I think this is a problem.

They shouldn't be adjusting seedings just to "avoid a rematch". They need to rank the teams accordingly. How is it fair to UGA if they were #1 to get maybe a tougher team that shoulda been #3 but got pushed back to #4 to "avoid the rematch"?
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It is what will happen -- no way they allow one of the two premier matchups for the season to be a game played already where a team lost by 46 already.

It is also why the analysts laughed when Oregon was brought up as a possibility for the CFP. How exactly are they going to rank them over other one loss teams? It will continue to come back to -- Oregon has a 46 point loss. The only other PAC team to play a solid team in OOC was Utah and they lost to Utah. So IMO, even if Oregon runs the table, they'd need chaos to have a shot at the CFP.

I know it wasn't a popular opinion when i said it last week, but seeing the reaction from the GameDay analysts -- they feel the exact same way.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Say Oregon is the best option for #4

But you have a undefeated UGA and undefeated B1G champ & Clemson

Do you just screw Oregon because "we can't have a rematch"? That seems like bad policy. Aren't we supposed to have the 4 best teams?

Or do some crap like push Clemson to #4?
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The committee isn’t going to change their rankings to avoid a potential rematch. That’s silly talk
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
It is what will happen -- no way they allow one of the two premier matchups for the season to be a game played already where a team lost by 46 already.

It is also why the analysts laughed when Oregon was brought up as a possibility for the CFP. How exactly are they going to rank them over other one loss teams? It will continue to come back to -- Oregon has a 46 point loss. The only other PAC team to play a solid team in OOC was Utah and they lost to Utah. So IMO, even if Oregon runs the table, they'd need chaos to have a shot at the CFP.

I know it wasn't a popular opinion when i said it last week, but seeing the reaction from the GameDay analysts -- they feel the exact same way.
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I think it really would come down to who they were up against.

You could also make the argument that none of the other teams had to go up against a team like UGA in their OOC

Say its down to Oregon and a 1 loss TCU. with TCUs 1 loss coming in late October/early November. TCUs "stiffest" OOC "test" was SMU.

Same with Clemson if they happen to lose. Their best OOC opponent is a South Carolina team who also got beat up bad by UGA. Clemson's loss would be to a mediocre team from here on if they do lose.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
It is what will happen -- no way they allow one of the two premier matchups for the season to be a game played already where a team lost by 46 already.

It is also why the analysts laughed when Oregon was brought up as a possibility for the CFP. How exactly are they going to rank them over other one loss teams? It will continue to come back to -- Oregon has a 46 point loss. The only other PAC team to play a solid team in OOC was Utah and they lost to Utah. So IMO, even if Oregon runs the table, they'd need chaos to have a shot at the CFP.

I know it wasn't a popular opinion when i said it last week, but seeing the reaction from the GameDay analysts -- they feel the exact same way.
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who lost to Utah?
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Just to point out -- Game Day talked about teams with playoff aspirations. They went thru a handful of teams and when they were asked about Oregon's chances, they all laughed and then it was said, Oregon's only chance to make it to the CFP is if Georgia loses twice.
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went back and watched it. the laughing was more at Kirk for having to answer the question. Desmond never stops laughing. Kirk says if Georgia isnt there. David asks if a bunch of other teams lose? kirk says absolutely they have a shot. David and Des both say 0 shot.
 
OlyDuck said:
who lost to Utah?
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I mentioned Utah, because they are the other "top team" in the PAC. They played a mediocre SEC team in Florida in OOC and lost. This is all stuff the committee will look at. Oregon could be, BY FAR, the best team in the PAC, but the PAC has two chances to flex in OOC. Oregon was murdered by Georgia, Utah was beaten by a mediocre SEC team in Florida.

So if it comes down to 1 loss teams -- the PAC isn't getting the benefit of the doubt, IMO.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Most years its pretty obvious there really are only 2 teams.
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True. They just didn't always get the order correct or always get the best two into the final....starting with the first year. Two best teams played in one semifinal that year.
 
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