Looks like Brent Key for Georgia Tech HC

WhosYourDawggy said:
But it's not. It's very similar to Vandy, Stanford, and NW. Academics first. Small alumni base. Bad facilities and so far no indication of any interest to improve them. You have to recruit against UGA and all the other schools that raid Georgia. It's an urban campus that is in a bad part of town. Anyone getting good is likely to transfer out. For current recruits zero history of being significant in football.

Their best hope is a gimmick offense. If you get a coach that can get them to 8-4 every year, he's gone the next year. Trust me, I live this as a Vandy alumnus.
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And Wake Forest, Duke, etc, etc, etc. I've heard all that noise before. GaTech has won FOUR National Titles in football and as recent as 1990. That's more than Georgia has won. It can be done.
 
douggie said:
And Wake Forest, Duke, etc, etc, etc. I've heard all that noise before. GaTech has won National Titles in football and as recent as 1990. That's more than Georgia has won. It can be done.
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Uh. UGA just won a natty last year.

But times have changed. They know it too. You don’t run the triple option for a decade if you think you can compete straight up
 
douggie said:
And Wake Forest, Duke, etc, etc, etc. I've heard all that noise before. GaTech has won FOUR National Titles in football and as recent as 1990. That's more than Georgia has won. It can be done.
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The climate in 1990 was so so so very much different than it is now though.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
Uh. UGA just won a natty last year.

But times have changed. They know it too. You don’t run the triple option for a decade if you think you can compete straight up
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Well see. In the least the right coach with the right OC with the right scheme can get us back to the upper layer of the ACC. Problem is the academics, lame facilities, and money.

The game HAS changed from 1990, and all the stars aligned just right that year. Yet we can still get a few recruits here and there, and success breeds more success in that regard.

But all this isn't to say that we can't field a top 12 team and squeeze into a 12 team playoff every now and then. But probably not year over year.
 
rfjeff9 said:
Well see. In the least the right coach with the right OC with the right scheme can get us back to the upper layer of the ACC. Problem is the academics, lame facilities, and money.

The game HAS changed from 1990, and all the stars aligned just right that year. Yet we can still get a few recruits here and there, and success breeds more success in that regard.

But all this isn't to say that we can't field a top 12 team and squeeze into a 12 team playoff every now and then. But probably not year over year.
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That’s definitely doable for any team in the country with the right coach. But despite their location, GT will never be what UGA is because of their limiting factors you mentioned
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
That’s definitely doable for any team in the country with the right coach. But despite their location, GT will never be what UGA is because of their limiting factors you mentioned
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I agree. But there is competing in the SEC, then there is ruling in the ACC. The latter is much more attainable.
 
douggie said:
And Wake Forest, Duke, etc, etc, etc. I've heard all that noise before. GaTech has won FOUR National Titles in football and as recent as 1990. That's more than Georgia has won. It can be done.
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GTFO ... 1917, 1928, 1952, 1990 with the 1990 being a tie. You want to go back 100 years. SMH.

You've heard all that noise because it's true. I am a Vandy grad. It just isn't ever going to happen in modern football.

As recent as 1990 - that's 32 years ago, before the BCS. That ain't recent. You sure you went to Dook?
 
osubuckeye89 said:
The climate in 1990 was so so so very much different than it is now though.
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I'm not arguing that. Everything has changed since 1990. All I'm saying is the resources in Atlanta are far greater than folks realize. The right coaches, the right recruits, anything can happen. Hell, who would have ever predicted TCU a chance at a Title?
 
rfjeff9 said:
Well see. In the least the right coach with the right OC with the right scheme can get us back to the upper layer of the ACC. Problem is the academics, lame facilities, and money.

The game HAS changed from 1990, and all the stars aligned just right that year. Yet we can still get a few recruits here and there, and success breeds more success in that regard.

But all this isn't to say that we can't field a top 12 team and squeeze into a 12 team playoff every now and then. But probably not year over year.
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That sounds about right. Concentrate on the top 3* and some 4* like Gibbs that slip through the cracks. Get some senior laden teams.

Again, Key had your team playing hard in Athens.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
GTFO ... 1917, 1928, 1952, 1990 with the 1990 being a tie. You want to go back 100 years. SMH.

You've heard all that noise because it's true. I am a Vandy grad. It just isn't ever going to happen in modern football.

As recent as 1990 - that's 32 years ago, before the BCS. That ain't recent. You sure you went to Dook?
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I'm sure Stanford never realized they could have a national power in football either. How did Vandy win a national title in baseball?

Look, all I'm saying is it can be done.
 
douggie said:
I'm not arguing that. Everything has changed since 1990. All I'm saying is the resources in Atlanta are far greater than folks realize. The right coaches, the right recruits, anything can happen. Hell, who would have ever predicted TCU a chance at a Title?
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But they aren't. With all due respect to @rfjeff9, the best players in Atlanta/Georgia will look at Tech's facilities, recent history (pro tip: that's not 30 years ago), buy-in, etc. and Tech will be far down the list. What resources are you talking about? If you are talking about the fact there are a ton of prospects that's fine, but you have to get them to way to stay at Tech. Start with the academic requirements, then go to the facilities, then to go to the location of campus in Atlanta, playing in the ACC where they will be outspent 3X by SEC/B1G teams, and the resources aren't there.
 
douggie said:
I'm sure Stanford never realized they could have a national power in football either. How did Vandy win a national title in baseball?

Look, all I'm saying is it can be done.
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We aren't talking about Olympic sports (Stanford) or baseball (Vandy). We are talking football.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
We aren't talking about Olympic sports (Stanford) or baseball (Vandy). We are talking football.
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I never said I was a Duke graduate. Just like you never said you were a Georgia graduate. What the fuck does that matter? I guess they didn't teach "Reasoning" at Vanderbilt.

Stanford was able to have success as an academic school. So did Northwestern until just this year. In football. Duke won an ACC Championship under Spurrier. How much winning by other teams does it take? Again, it can be done at GT.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
But they aren't. With all due respect to @rfjeff9, the best players in Atlanta/Georgia will look at Tech's facilities, recent history (pro tip: that's not 30 years ago), buy-in, etc. and Tech will be far down the list. What resources are you talking about? If you are talking about the fact there are a ton of prospects that's fine, but you have to get them to way to stay at Tech. Start with the academic requirements, then go to the facilities, then to go to the location of campus in Atlanta, playing in the ACC where they will be outspent 3X by SEC/B1G teams, and the resources aren't there.
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Sure. Right now Georgia is besting the options. That won't last forever. The Sun doesn't shine on the same dog's ass everyday.

When Kirby Smart starts making decisions and becomes Kirby "Not So Smart". You act like that shit won't ever happen again.
 
Wish he was back at Georgia Southern
 
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