


Those are some good QBs. 9th isn’t bad for Jimmy JamHarbaugh was 9th in passing yards in 1991
the 8 ahead of him for reference.
Warren Moon
Dan Marino
Jim Kelly
Mark Rypien
Bernie Kosar
Jim Everett
Ken O'Brien
John Elway
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Those are some good QBs. 9th isn’t bad for Jimmy JamHarbaugh was 9th in passing yards in 1991
the 8 ahead of him for reference.
Warren Moon
Dan Marino
Jim Kelly
Mark Rypien
Bernie Kosar
Jim Everett
Ken O'Brien
John Elway
Brian Hoyer has been in the NFL for 14 years and has a Super Bowl ring. Is he “doing something right”?If you last 14 years in the NFL -- you are doing something right.
How many OSU QB's have lasted 14 years in the NFL in the history of your program?
Those are some good QBs. 9th isn’t bad for Jimmy Jam
Brian Hoyer has been in the NFL for 14 years and has a Super Bowl ring. Is he “doing something right”?
Marino and Moon were chuckers even for back then. Wonder why Harbaugh didn’t sling itBehind Jim Everett and Ken O'Brien though. Lol. I'd hardly call them great QBs.
Marino and Moon were chuckers even for back then. Wonder why Harbaugh didn’t sling it
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Brian Hoyer spent much of his career as Tom Brady’s backup. He doesn’t even need to worry about people being upset and demanding he be the starting QB.Back up QB is perhaps the best job in America. I’ve seen some of Branden Weedens homes in Oklahoma. Guy has it pretty good.
But he wasn’t a good Pro QB. He wasn’t average either
1993 Bobby Hebert > Jimmy JamMoon threw fucking 655 passes in 1991. Unreal. Lol.
Marino was 2nd with 549.
You questioning Jim Harbaugh's accomplishments makes me very uncomfortable. I'm not okay with hate but will pray for you at church on Sunday.He was the OG game manager but not a good one. Memory is fun but I don’t remember the other QBs in the league then.
And was Jimmy Jam better than Jim McMahon? I’d say no
But during his generation. There were 100's and 100's of QB drafted into the NFL. So being borderline top 20 is pretty damn good, no?I'd day he's borderline top 20 of QB's during his generation, which would put him as below average. He's certainly not a "top QB of his time." He's not even all that close to it. He had one really great year, the rest of his career was the definition of mediocrity.
You questioning Jim Harbaugh's accomplishments makes me very uncomfortable. I'm not okay with hate but will pray for you at church on Sunday.
But during his generation. There were 100's and 100's of QB drafted into the NFL. So being borderline top 20 is pretty damn good, no?
Holy crap, dude...did you just invent the term "Elite Backup" for the purposes of pimping your coach?Again -- any QB that lasts 14 years in the NFL is the furthest from a hack you can get. Even if you are a backup QB for 14 years -- you are the elite of the elite at the position for that time period.
For the love of all that is holy -- I never called him a NFL great. I said he was one of the elite QB of his era, as in one of the select few who had a long NFL career. He was in the NFL 14 years and was a starter for 10 years. Was he a world beater? Hell no. But 100's of QB's were drafted while he was in the NFL, yet he was able to last in the league for 14 years, most as a starter.There were 28 teams when we entered the league, and 30 by 1995. If you're sitting around the 20th-best QB, you are by definition a below average nfl starter. He wasn't a good QB. He was simply okay. Best thing he did was lead the Colts to a shitty record in 1997 so they could draft Peyton.
Tough to call him an elite backup when he started 140 games in the NFL. He was a journeyman QB, but any QB who can last that long in the NFL is one of the elite QB's of that era.Holy crap, dude...did you just invent the term "Elite Backup" for the purposes of pimping your coach?
Look, Harbaugh was great in that one season with Marchibroda as his wingman, and "Let 'Er RIP!" is an iconic piece of NFL history, but that's pretty much his career.
Tough to call him an elite backup when he started 140 games in the NFL. He was a journeyman QB, but any QB who can last that long in the NFL is one of the elite QB's of that era.
The NFL is the pinnacle of football. If you are good enough to last 10+ years at ANY position in the NFL, you are one of the elite.
For the love of all that is holy -- I never called him a NFL great. I said he was one of the elite QB of his era, as in one of the select few who had a long NFL career. He was in the NFL 14 years and was a starter for 10 years. Was he a world beater? Hell no. But 100's of QB's were drafted while he was in the NFL, yet he was able to last in the league for 14 years, most as a starter.
This of it like this. Say each team has 2 QB's with some having 3 QB's in the NFL. That's roughly 70 QB's on NFL rosters when he was drafted. Now in 14 years -- there were roughly 200 QB's drafted while he was in the NFL. That is now 270 QB's on rosters or drafted. If a QB is in the top 20 out of 270 QB's -- That means he is better than 93% of all NFL QB's during his era. I'd say that is pretty good for a journeyman QB, which is essentially what he was.
He wasn't an elite QB of his era. Those would be Marino, Elway, Young, along with many others. He's basically Ryan Fitzpatrick, only with worse numbers, because of the era. Fitzpatrick was okay.
Harbaugh played a lot, to his credit. But when he played he was the definition of average. He literally had one great year, with a bunch of average to below average mixed in. So yes, he played a lot, which counts for something, I guess but not much.
So an Elite Pine-Rider, thenThe NFL is the pinnacle of football. If you are good enough to last 10+ years at ANY position in the NFL, you are one of the elite.