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Was going to make a comment in the Carr thread, but there are too many teams who will be looking for QB's and quite a few QB's looking for work. I want to take a stab and the teams, the QB's, and where they end.

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Teams looking for a QB​

For sure:​

Texans
Raiders
Jets
Colts
Redskins
Panthers
Saints
Falcons

Maybe:​

Dolphins
Titans
Giants
Lions
Packers
Buccaneers

Doubtful, but possible:​

Ravens
Cardinals

QB's who could move:​

Carr
Cooper Rush
Matt Ryan
Mariota
Goff
Davis Mills
Mayfield
Wentz
Zach Wilson
Heinicke
Brady
Jimmy G
Daniel Jones
Dalton
Darnold
Winston
Trubisky
Brady
Tannehill

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Long Shots:​

Lamar Jackson
Kyler
Rodgers


Who you got going where?
 
Minshew will be available...I think he could start somewhere.
 
Good thread.

Seahawks need a qb long term. Will take Anthony Richardson or CJ Stroud with their pick or Denver's.

What about Tre Lance in SF? Before he got hurt there was already talk of trading him and they could possibly get a low first rounder. Brock Purdy has changed things in SF.

Texans will take Bryce Young but need to stop winning lol.

If I were the Cardinals I would cut ties with the midget. Selfish little bastard is the source of a lot of their issues. Ask Patrick Peterson.

Colts and Texans the most with the quality of the rest of their team.
 
MrFlyingV said:
Good thread.

Seahawks need a qb long term. Will take Anthony Richardson or CJ Stroud with their pick or Denver's.

What about Tre Lance in SF? Before he got hurt there was already talk of trading him and they could possibly get a low first rounder. Brock Purdy has changed things in SF.

Texans will take Bryce Young but need to stop winning lol.

If I were the Cardinals I would cut ties with the midget. Selfish little bastard is the source of a lot of their issues. Ask Patrick Peterson.

Colts and Texans the most with the quality of the rest of their team.
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do you think they commit to Purdy just like that? I know they have all the weapons on that team to make any QB dangerous but is Purdy the answer or do you keep both and make it a competition? I'd do the latter.
 
ill said:
Minshew will be available...I think he could start somewhere.
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I think that too, but also that there will be so many starting QB's on the market that someone will gamble with them. Meaning Minshew will have to sign as a backup.

Not just being a homer, but Cooper Rush is the name I don't hear anyone throwing around. Seems like SOMEONE (probably Skins) will offer him a 2-3 year deal based on his record and performance this year.
 
MrFlyingV said:
Good thread.

Seahawks need a qb long term. Will take Anthony Richardson or CJ Stroud with their pick or Denver's.

What about Tre Lance in SF? Before he got hurt there was already talk of trading him and they could possibly get a low first rounder. Brock Purdy has changed things in SF.

Texans will take Bryce Young but need to stop winning lol.

If I were the Cardinals I would cut ties with the midget. Selfish little bastard is the source of a lot of their issues. Ask Patrick Peterson.

Colts and Texans the most with the quality of the rest of their team.
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Yeah I tried to avoid the draft talk, but I don't think this thread can really work without it. Purdy is the wildcard that threw everything off, possibly making two "starters" available.

For the Cardinals I'd do a hard reset. Fire the GM, Coach, and QB. His only ability as a QB was his legs and RG3 has shown you don't come back from that injury the same player.
 
ill said:
do you think they commit to Purdy just like that? I know they have all the weapons on that team to make any QB dangerous but is Purdy the answer or do you keep both and make it a competition? I'd do the latter.
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The latter I believe. But it has to be competition. No handing job to Lance like they did this year. Purdy is cheap and Bosa and Warner are due big contracts this offseason. One thing for sure Jimmy G will be gone.
 
fordman84 said:
I think that too, but also that there will be so many starting QB's on the market that someone will gamble with them. Meaning Minshew will have to sign as a backup.

Not just being a homer, but Cooper Rush is the name I don't hear anyone throwing around. Seems like SOMEONE (probably Skins) will offer him a 2-3 year deal based on his record and performance this year.
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Here’s a list of all 37 ranked by their 2022 average annual value, via Spotrac:
  • Tom Brady (45), Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $15 million – UFA
  • Baker Mayfield (27), Los Angeles Rams: $8.1 million – UFA
  • Sam Darnold (25), Carolina Panthers: $7.5 million – UFA
  • Jimmy Garoppolo (31), San Francisco 49ers: $7 million – UFA
  • Teddy Bridgewater (30), Miami Dolphins: $6.5 million – UFA
  • Daniel Jones (25), New York Giants: $6.4 million – UFA
  • Case Keenum (34), Buffalo Bills: $6 million – UFA
  • Mason Rudolph (27), Pittsburgh Steelers: $5.08 million – UFA
  • Jacoby Brissett (30), Cleveland Browns: $4.6 million – UFA
  • Geno Smith (32), Seattle Seahawks: $3.5 million – UFA
  • Joe Flacco (37), New York Jets: $3.5 million – UFA
  • Andy Dalton (35), New Orleans Saints: $3 million – UFA
  • Mike White (27), New York Jets: $2.5 million – UFA
  • C.J. Beathard (29), Jacksonville Jaguars: $2.5 million – UFA
  • Kyle Allen (26), Houston Texans: $2.5 million – UFA
  • Taylor Heinicke (29), Washington Commanders: $2.3 million – UFA
  • Lamar Jackson (25), Baltimore Ravens: $2.3 million – UFA
  • Blaine Gabbert (33), Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $2.2 million – UFA
  • Chase Daniel (36), Los Angeles Chargers: $2 million – UFA
  • Chad Henne (37), Kansas City Chiefs: $2 million – UFA
  • Nick Mullens (27), Minnesota Vikings: $2 million – UFA
  • Drew Lock (26), Seattle Seahawks: $1.7 million – UFA
  • Brandon Allen (30), Cincinnati Bengals: $1.5 million – UFA
  • Josh Johnson (36), San Francisco 49ers: $1.1 million – UFA
  • Nate Sudfeld (29), Detroit Lions: $1.03 million – UFA
  • Nathan Peterman (28), Chicago Bears: $1.03 million – UFA
  • Cooper Rush (29), Dallas Cowboys: $977,500 – UFA
  • Brett Rypien (26), Denver Broncos: $965,000 – UFA
  • Tyler Huntley (24), Baltimore Ravens: $895,000 – RFA
  • John Wolford (27), Los Angeles Rams: $895,000 – RFA
  • Phillip Walker (27), Carolina Panthers: $895,000 – RFA
  • Trace McSorley (27), Arizona Cardinals: $850,000 – UFA
  • Jarrett Stidham (26), Las Vegas Raiders: $788,423 – UFA
  • Bryce Perkins (25), Los Angeles Rams: $742,500 – ERFA
  • Easton Stick (27), Los Angeles Chargers: $699,391 – UFA
  • Gardner Minshew (26), Philadelphia Eagles: $677,721 – UFA
www.nbcsports.com

Which quarterbacks make the top NFL free agents in 2023?

With Tom Brady retiring, Lamar Jackson and Jimmy Garoppolo are the top names on the market. Here are the other NFL quarterbacks looking for new teams in the new year.
www.nbcsports.com www.nbcsports.com
 
fordman84 said:
Yeah I tried to avoid the draft talk, but I don't think this thread can really work without it. Purdy is the wildcard that threw everything off, possibly making two "starters" available.

For the Cardinals I'd do a hard reset. Fire the GM, Coach, and QB. His only ability as a QB was his legs and RG3 has shown you don't come back from that injury the same player.
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I agree with the hard reset too. Bidwell like father like son: long term deals for unproven coach, qb. GM has been around awhile.

Another interesting thing this offseason is Sean Payton. Already hired Vic Fangio, but has no team. You'd think an underachieving team (San Diego at one point) with a good young qb would be perfect.
 
ill said:
Here’s a list of all 37 ranked by their 2022 average annual value, via Spotrac:
  • Tom Brady (45), Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $15 million – UFA
  • Baker Mayfield (27), Los Angeles Rams: $8.1 million – UFA
  • Sam Darnold (25), Carolina Panthers: $7.5 million – UFA
  • Jimmy Garoppolo (31), San Francisco 49ers: $7 million – UFA
  • Teddy Bridgewater (30), Miami Dolphins: $6.5 million – UFA
  • Daniel Jones (25), New York Giants: $6.4 million – UFA
  • Case Keenum (34), Buffalo Bills: $6 million – UFA
  • Mason Rudolph (27), Pittsburgh Steelers: $5.08 million – UFA
  • Jacoby Brissett (30), Cleveland Browns: $4.6 million – UFA
  • Geno Smith (32), Seattle Seahawks: $3.5 million – UFA
  • Joe Flacco (37), New York Jets: $3.5 million – UFA
  • Andy Dalton (35), New Orleans Saints: $3 million – UFA
  • Mike White (27), New York Jets: $2.5 million – UFA
  • C.J. Beathard (29), Jacksonville Jaguars: $2.5 million – UFA
  • Kyle Allen (26), Houston Texans: $2.5 million – UFA
  • Taylor Heinicke (29), Washington Commanders: $2.3 million – UFA
  • Lamar Jackson (25), Baltimore Ravens: $2.3 million – UFA
  • Blaine Gabbert (33), Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $2.2 million – UFA
  • Chase Daniel (36), Los Angeles Chargers: $2 million – UFA
  • Chad Henne (37), Kansas City Chiefs: $2 million – UFA
  • Nick Mullens (27), Minnesota Vikings: $2 million – UFA
  • Drew Lock (26), Seattle Seahawks: $1.7 million – UFA
  • Brandon Allen (30), Cincinnati Bengals: $1.5 million – UFA
  • Josh Johnson (36), San Francisco 49ers: $1.1 million – UFA
  • Nate Sudfeld (29), Detroit Lions: $1.03 million – UFA
  • Nathan Peterman (28), Chicago Bears: $1.03 million – UFA
  • Cooper Rush (29), Dallas Cowboys: $977,500 – UFA
  • Brett Rypien (26), Denver Broncos: $965,000 – UFA
  • Tyler Huntley (24), Baltimore Ravens: $895,000 – RFA
  • John Wolford (27), Los Angeles Rams: $895,000 – RFA
  • Phillip Walker (27), Carolina Panthers: $895,000 – RFA
  • Trace McSorley (27), Arizona Cardinals: $850,000 – UFA
  • Jarrett Stidham (26), Las Vegas Raiders: $788,423 – UFA
  • Bryce Perkins (25), Los Angeles Rams: $742,500 – ERFA
  • Easton Stick (27), Los Angeles Chargers: $699,391 – UFA
  • Gardner Minshew (26), Philadelphia Eagles: $677,721 – UFA
www.nbcsports.com

Which quarterbacks make the top NFL free agents in 2023?

With Tom Brady retiring, Lamar Jackson and Jimmy Garoppolo are the top names on the market. Here are the other NFL quarterbacks looking for new teams in the new year.
www.nbcsports.com www.nbcsports.com
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But 2022 value isn't much consequence for 2023, their stats would be. But in FA a lot of it is "name recognition" as well, fair or not.
 
MrFlyingV said:
I agree with the hard reset too. Bidwell like father like son: long term deals for unproven coach, qb. GM has been around awhile.

Another interesting thing this offseason is Sean Payton. Already hired Vic Fangio, but has no team. You'd think an underachieving team (San Diego at one point) with a good young qb would be perfect.
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If Dallas doesn't win the SB, I hope we lose in the first round. Get McCarthy out of here and Payton in. Worth another year of despair to get rid of him.
 
fordman84 said:
But 2022 value isn't much consequence for 2023, their stats would be. But in FA a lot of it is "name recognition" as well, fair or not.
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oh I agree...I was just copypasta-ing

most of the names on that list I would delete
 
ill said:
Here’s a list of all 37 ranked by their 2022 average annual value, via Spotrac:
  • Tom Brady (45), Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $15 million – UFA
  • Baker Mayfield (27), Los Angeles Rams: $8.1 million – UFA
  • Sam Darnold (25), Carolina Panthers: $7.5 million – UFA
  • Jimmy Garoppolo (31), San Francisco 49ers: $7 million – UFA
  • Teddy Bridgewater (30), Miami Dolphins: $6.5 million – UFA
  • Daniel Jones (25), New York Giants: $6.4 million – UFA
  • Case Keenum (34), Buffalo Bills: $6 million – UFA
  • Mason Rudolph (27), Pittsburgh Steelers: $5.08 million – UFA
  • Jacoby Brissett (30), Cleveland Browns: $4.6 million – UFA
  • Geno Smith (32), Seattle Seahawks: $3.5 million – UFA
  • Joe Flacco (37), New York Jets: $3.5 million – UFA
  • Andy Dalton (35), New Orleans Saints: $3 million – UFA
  • Mike White (27), New York Jets: $2.5 million – UFA
  • C.J. Beathard (29), Jacksonville Jaguars: $2.5 million – UFA
  • Kyle Allen (26), Houston Texans: $2.5 million – UFA
  • Taylor Heinicke (29), Washington Commanders: $2.3 million – UFA
  • Lamar Jackson (25), Baltimore Ravens: $2.3 million – UFA
  • Blaine Gabbert (33), Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $2.2 million – UFA
  • Chase Daniel (36), Los Angeles Chargers: $2 million – UFA
  • Chad Henne (37), Kansas City Chiefs: $2 million – UFA
  • Nick Mullens (27), Minnesota Vikings: $2 million – UFA
  • Drew Lock (26), Seattle Seahawks: $1.7 million – UFA
  • Brandon Allen (30), Cincinnati Bengals: $1.5 million – UFA
  • Josh Johnson (36), San Francisco 49ers: $1.1 million – UFA
  • Nate Sudfeld (29), Detroit Lions: $1.03 million – UFA
  • Nathan Peterman (28), Chicago Bears: $1.03 million – UFA
  • Cooper Rush (29), Dallas Cowboys: $977,500 – UFA
  • Brett Rypien (26), Denver Broncos: $965,000 – UFA
  • Tyler Huntley (24), Baltimore Ravens: $895,000 – RFA
  • John Wolford (27), Los Angeles Rams: $895,000 – RFA
  • Phillip Walker (27), Carolina Panthers: $895,000 – RFA
  • Trace McSorley (27), Arizona Cardinals: $850,000 – UFA
  • Jarrett Stidham (26), Las Vegas Raiders: $788,423 – UFA
  • Bryce Perkins (25), Los Angeles Rams: $742,500 – ERFA
  • Easton Stick (27), Los Angeles Chargers: $699,391 – UFA
  • Gardner Minshew (26), Philadelphia Eagles: $677,721 – UFA
www.nbcsports.com

Which quarterbacks make the top NFL free agents in 2023?

With Tom Brady retiring, Lamar Jackson and Jimmy Garoppolo are the top names on the market. Here are the other NFL quarterbacks looking for new teams in the new year.
www.nbcsports.com www.nbcsports.com
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That is a motley crue of free agents, the bulk of that list I guess Derek Carr on that list now. Only one that list that may be worthy for a long term deal ( and a big may) is Lamar Jackson imo. Minshew only paid 667K?
 
fordman84 said:
If Dallas doesn't win the SB, I hope we lose in the first round. Get McCarthy out of here and Payton in. Worth another year of despair to get rid of him.
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Yes Dallas would be the perfect club for Payton. Jerry would give up the draft pick and compensation too for Payton. Only problem is Jerry would have to step back a bit.
 
fordman84 said:
Was going to make a comment in the Carr thread, but there are too many teams who will be looking for QB's and quite a few QB's looking for work. I want to take a stab and the teams, the QB's, and where they end.

​

Teams looking for a QB​

For sure:​

Texans
Raiders
Jets
Colts
Redskins
Panthers
Saints
Falcons

Maybe:​

Dolphins
Titans
Giants
Lions
Packers
Buccaneers

Doubtful, but possible:​

Ravens
Cardinals

QB's who could move:​

Carr
Cooper Rush
Matt Ryan
Mariota
Goff
Davis Mills
Mayfield
Wentz
Zach Wilson
Heinicke
Brady
Jimmy G
Daniel Jones
Dalton
Darnold
Winston
Trubisky
Brady
Tannehill

​

Long Shots:​

Lamar Jackson
Kyler
Rodgers


Who you got going where?
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move Titan's to For sure

www.espn.com

Source: Titans to start QB Dobbs vs. Cowboys

The Titans are expected to start Joshua Dobbs at quarterback in Thursday night's game against the Cowboys, a source confirmed to ESPN.
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