Big 12 thread

Who gives a flying fuck?

Anyway Delaware's General Corporation Law (DGCL) is streamlined to adjudicate these types of cases swiftly. That is one of the many benefits of incorporating in Delaware.

It won't matter. If the Texas State Government decided tomorrow that it would be in the best interest for Texas to go to the SEC in 2024, there is nothing the Big12, Fox, etc. could do. They have no way of enforcing that contract without an Executive Branch to support them. They can go to Delaware and print all the paper they want but they have no enforcement agents.
 
They don't have to IF they don't get the same revenue they'd have gotten with TX/OU in the Big 12. Since TX/OU make up the lion's share of broadcast revenue to the Big 12 then obviously FOX's payment to the Big 12 will be less.

However, since TX/OU will be required by Delaware Bylaw to pay over $160 million (between the two) to the Big 12 corporation, the Big 12's distribution to it's surviving members will be made whole (for two years).
bro they aren't paying 80 mil a piece... they would take it to court if that was the case.. even the conference knows that's too much to ask or attempt to follow through in the courts
 
bro they aren't paying 80 mil a piece... they would take it to court if that was the case.. even the conference knows that's too much to ask or attempt to follow through in the courts
They are afraid to go to court ... ThEy WoUlD HaVe tO Go tO DelAwARe. LOL.
 
They are afraid to go to court ... ThEy WoUlD HaVe tO Go tO DelAwARe. LOL.
if anything.. I will recommend my daughters to marry in Delaware.. no way they can get screwed out of alimony.. IT'S DELAWARE, BITCHES!!!
 
You keep bringing up the Nebraska truck case, so I'll explain why it's relevant even though you keep spelling it like it was some dumb reference.

There are rules for where disputes are resolved. I've pointed that out - legal concepts of jurisdiction, and conflicts of laws when those concepts conflict. You keep saying that because the B12 is incorporated in Delaware, they get to choose where the jurisdiction is for their litigation. I provided a US Supreme court case that showed you were full of shit and you responded like a typical WebAttorney with TLDR. Basically, you can't understand what I wrote, so you just ignored it.

The wreck example is to show you that corporations in lawsuits don't get to decide where they are sued just by filing papers in another jurisdiction. Hell, if it were that easy, I'd have incorporated in the state of Washington, and then whenever I got sued, I'd make them go to Washington to sue me. Smart people can see that you aren't allowed to do that. It's called "forum shopping." Here is a link - you won't read it because it has too many words, and/or you are too dumb to understand them - Forum shopping - Wikipedia

In any event, the truck example was to show you that a corporation doesn't get to decide where to file the suit - there are rules in place to do that.

You last point is kind of funny because that is what I said in my very first post - the parties may well have agreed where the contract dispute would be heard. Hell, I provided a clause I used in my agreements. So, you finally say one thing correct, and it's something I brought up 5 pages of post ago, and doesn't help you idiot ideas.

Put down the knife, son, you are outgunned here, and it's not even close.

FFS

Your Nebraska truck case is not relevant, IS dumb, and IS strawman.

As an individual walking or driving my vehicle in Nebraska I'm not a member of whatever corporation and therefore not governed by their internal affairs. Therefore I can sue a Delaware corporation (or any other corporation) who's truck hit me in Nebraska. The case would be heard where I filed suit (i.e. Nebraska).

It's hilarious that you can't get beyond the simple point of what Internal Affairs are, and how a corporations Bylaws apply to their Internal Affairs.

If I'm UTEP and I file suit against the Big 12 then the case would be heard in Texas, not Delaware.
That is because UTEP is NOT a member of the Big 12, did NOT sign agreements to follow Big 12 Bylaws, of which are agreed to at every level of the Big 12 to be governed by Delaware Law.

Again.... For the back of the class......

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"Members" = TX/OU
"Affairs" = Internal Affairs

The Big 12 Bylaws are based on (and subject to) Delaware Law. Every Big 12 "member" agreed to that when they signed the contract.

"ExCePt tEjAs. ThEy hAd ThEiR FiNgErS cRoSSeD BeHiNd tHeiR BaCkS wHen ThEy SiGnEd. tHeY CaN uSe TeXaS cOuRtS/LaWs"
 
FFS

Your Nebraska truck case is not relevant, IS dumb, and IS strawman.

As an individual walking or driving my vehicle in Nebraska I'm not a member of whatever corporation and therefore not governed by their internal affairs. Therefore I can sue a Delaware corporation (or any other corporation) who's truck hit me in Nebraska. The case would be heard where I filed suit (i.e. Nebraska).

It's hilarious that you can't get beyond the simple point of what Internal Affairs are, and how a corporations Bylaws apply to their Internal Affairs.

If I'm UTEP and I file suit against the Big 12 then the case would be heard in Texas, not Delaware.
That is because UTEP is NOT a member of the Big 12, did NOT sign agreements to follow Big 12 Bylaws, of which are agreed to at every level of the Big 12 to be governed by Delaware Law.

Again.... For the back of the class......

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"Members" = TX/OU
"Affairs" = Internal Affairs

The Big 12 Bylaws are based on (and subject to) Delaware Law. Every Big 12 "member" agreed to that when they signed the contract.

"ExCePt tEjAs. ThEy hAd ThEiR FiNgErS cRoSSeD BeHiNd tHeiR BaCkS wHen ThEy SiGnEd. tHeY CaN uSe TeXaS cOuRtS/LaWs"
Put down the knife, WebAttorney. You don't know what you are talking about.
 
It won't matter. If the Texas State Government decided tomorrow that it would be in the best interest for Texas to go to the SEC in 2024, there is nothing the Big12, Fox, etc. could do. They have no way of enforcing that contract without an Executive Branch to support them. They can go to Delaware and print all the paper they want but they have no enforcement agents.

LMAO!!!

WHO/WHAT?
 
bro they aren't paying 80 mil a piece... they would take it to court if that was the case.. even the conference knows that's too much to ask or attempt to follow through in the courts

Only because they aren't leaving early.

In over a year and a half there have been zero lawsuits filed ANYWHERE by TX/OU in attempt to get out of the GOR or even at a reduced rate. Because they'd lose and their lawyers have told them they'd lose.

But a so-called lawyer in Georgia says "NUH UHHH".

LMAO!!!
 
Only because they aren't leaving early.

In over a year and a half there have been zero lawsuits filed ANYWHERE by TX/OU in attempt to get out of the GOR or even at a reduced rate. Because they'd lose and their lawyers have told them they'd lose.

But a so-called lawyer in Georgia says "NUH UHHH".

LMAO!!!
If you are referring to me as the "so-called lawyer," I never opined in this thread on whether or not they would be able to get out of the GOR. I think the actions by OU and TX indicate they don't think they could get out. I've posted on the Hoop many times over the years that the GOR would be really hard to get out of.

I find it humorous that a WebAttorney with no legal training and little intellect would type "so-called lawyer." Again, one of us went to a top 25 law school and successfully practiced law. Then there is you who knows how to google but lacks the intelligence to understand what it is that you find.
 
Only because they aren't leaving early.

In over a year and a half there have been zero lawsuits filed ANYWHERE by TX/OU in attempt to get out of the GOR or even at a reduced rate. Because they'd lose and their lawyers have told them they'd lose.

But a so-called lawyer in Georgia says "NUH UHHH".

LMAO!!!
Why would they file a lawsuit to leave? It's being negotiated LIKE ALL schools who have left one conference for another. Just because it hasn't been to court mean it's ironed clad.. You know some schools and conferences don't want to burn bridges with each other or financial TV partners.

I honestly don't know why you are so adamant about this tbh.. Big12 has agreed on a deal with UT and ou.. Only obstacle is Fox.. Again the BIG12 and UT/ou have agreed on a deal.. it's FOX.. but who knows maybe the Big12 attorneys are also screaming DELAWARE!!! for 10 minutes in every meeting ?
 
The Big 12 attorneys would squash your fraudulent ass like a bug.
What are you even talking about? Are you even sane? Someone needs to do a welfare check on you, you've lost it. Maybe some people from DELAWARE can check in.
 
If you are referring to me as the "so-called lawyer," I never opined in this thread on whether or not they would be able to get out of the GOR. I think the actions by OU and TX indicate they don't think they could get out. I've posted on the Hoop many times over the years that the GOR would be really hard to get out of.

I find it humorous that a WebAttorney with no legal training and little intellect would type "so-called lawyer." Again, one of us went to a top 25 law school and successfully practiced law. Then there is you who knows how to google but lacks the intelligence to understand what it is that you find.

pshhh..... You don't even know what 'Internal Affairs' are.

One thing's for certain.... I wouldn't want your fraudulent ass representing me if a Delaware corporation's truck hit me in Nebraska.
 
What are you even talking about? Are you even sane? Someone needs to do a welfare check on you, you've lost it. Maybe some people from DELAWARE can check in.
lol Big12 attorneys and schools are all in alignment to let UT/ou go.. I doubt they are yelling Delaware at them since they have come to an agreement. Now it's on FOX and ESPN to wheel and deal.

This has been the first time where there's been real info on both schools wanting out after this coming season. I think it feels longer because no other schools who have went elsewhere stayed as long as UT and ou have after word got leaked out they were moving elsewhere ('21).. But to be completely honest none of the other schools who moved prior to UT/ou announcing were on this level. I do think SC move is also pretty big since their conference relied on them for so long.
 
pshhh..... You don't even know what 'Internal Affairs' are.

One thing's for certain.... I wouldn't want your fraudulent ass representing me if a Delaware corporation's truck hit me in Nebraska.
lol be honest.. you'd settle quickly.. or just wait til they bleed you out in the courts
 
Big12 has agreed on a deal with UT and ou.. Only obstacle is Fox.. Again the BIG12 and UT/ou have agreed on a deal.. it's FOX.. but who knows maybe the Big12 attorneys are also screaming DELAWARE!!! for 10 minutes in every meeting ?

So let's have an official link from the Big 12, tejas, or Oklahoma, stating as such.

Not from some "Source familiar with the situation who agreed to talk on the condition of anonymity (and internet clicks)."
 
lol Big12 attorneys and schools are all in alignment to let UT/ou go.. I doubt they are yelling Delaware at them since they have come to an agreement. Now it's on FOX and ESPN to wheel and deal.

This has been the first time where there's been real info on both schools wanting out after this coming season. I think it feels longer because no other schools who have went elsewhere stayed as long as UT and ou have after word got leaked out they were moving elsewhere ('21).. But to be completely honest none of the other schools who moved prior to UT/ou announcing were on this level. I do think SC move is also pretty big since their conference relied on them for so long.
It also works in that the 12 team CFP starts in 2024 now. I don't follow it like you do, but at some point it kind of felt unwieldy to have all the new teams and the 2 old teams. Glad to see the new schedules starting in 2024.
 
So let's have an official link from the Big 12, tejas, or Oklahoma, stating as such.

Not from some "Source familiar with the situation who agreed to talk on the condition of anonymity (and internet clicks)."
lol bro.. multiple reporters have said that the Big12 and UT/ou are in agreement.. McMurphy, Dodds and whomever that SI/ESPN writer was..

But maybe they were lying.. Fox is cool afterall but the hateful 8 are mad and want more money?
 
lol bro.. multiple reporters have said that the Big12 and UT/ou are in agreement.. McMurphy, Dodds and whomever that SI/ESPN writer was..

But maybe they were lying.. Fox is cool afterall but the hateful 8 are mad and want more money?

Based on "Sources familiar with the situation who agreed to talk on the condition of anonymity."

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