Fitz to the bench, Tua to start

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I realize they have a rookie they want to see, but at 3-3 and Fitz playing relatively well I just don't get this move. Fitz is throwing 70% completions and has this team in striking distance of a playoff spot. Let Tua get some first team reps but I'd wait for Fitz to have is usual mid-season slump before pulling him.
 
Tua might give them a better chance of making the playoffs. Fitzpatrick still throws too many interceptions and tua is more mobile. College quarterback today don't need to sit as long before they're ready to start. Most of them hit the ground running in their first start.

I think their coaching staff is decent down there so for now I will trust the timing is right
 
weird time to do it with Rams and Cardinals coming up, especially coming off a 24-0 win over the Jets...
 
This move has a Dan Snyder feel to it... Fans approved when he came on the field late in the Jets game so the owner calls down to the coaching staff with dollar signs in his eyes commanding to play the kid...

...and possibly ruin his development/career...
 
ill said:
weird time to do it with Rams and Cardinals coming up, especially coming off a 24-0 win over the Jets...
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Yeah, but everybody beats the Jets. If you don't, I think they kick you out of the NFL.
 
CaptainStubing said:
Tua might give them a better chance of making the playoffs. Fitzpatrick still throws too many interceptions and tua is more mobile. College quarterback today don't need to sit as long before they're ready to start. Most of them hit the ground running in their first start.

I think their coaching staff is decent down there so for now I will trust the timing is right
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I'm gonna spend some time looking at recent highly drafted rookies who pushed a starter to the bench, how did the rookie do. To me it seems a full season sitting and watching does highly drafted rookies better.
 
Mofo said:
Yeah, but everybody beats the Jets. If you don't, I think they kick you out of the NFL.
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A shutout is still a shutout. Tough to to do in the NFL.


Seems like the Fins have been playing decent ball of late?? Weird decision, IMO.
 
fordman84 said:
I'm gonna spend some time looking at recent highly drafted rookies who pushed a starter to the bench, how did the rookie do. To me it seems a full season sitting and watching does highly drafted rookies better.
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This has always been true. Rookies barely understand the playbook in their first year, and can't come into the pro game with speedy defenses and know how to hot-read exotic coverage/blitz packages.

The counter-argument is that a team that spends a first round draft pick on a QB typically knows that the present starter isn't the future and that any playing time, even in a losing effort, is experience towards the rebuilding year(s).

However, the AFC East seems wide open at this point, so yeah, the move is a little baffling.
 
I could see it if Fitzpatrick was smelling the joint up.

I don't see this.

Let him get playing time for sure, but Fitzpatrick deserves to play.
 
fordman84 said:
I'm gonna spend some time looking at recent highly drafted rookies who pushed a starter to the bench, how did the rookie do. To me it seems a full season sitting and watching does highly drafted rookies better.
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I'll be interested to see what you find. Burrow and herbert, to me, are becoming More the norm though where they're quickly making the transition to the NFL because the offenses are more similar than ever between college and pro
 
Mofo said:
Yeah, but everybody beats the Jets. If you don't, I think they kick you out of the NFL.
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fuck

I hope the Eagles don't play them...I don't know how confident I am feeling these days.
 
CaptainStubing said:
I'll be interested to see what you find. Burrow and herbert, to me, are becoming More the norm though where they're quickly making the transition to the NFL because the offenses are more similar than ever between college and pro
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Burrows is an extreme outlier to me because he started game 1 but had no pre-season games so it was like joining mid season. I'm thinking of guys like Mahomes who got to sit for a year and watch and learn and adjust then just stepped in and knew how to play. Instead of a panic move mid-season when you throw someone not ready yet to the wolves.
 
fordman84 said:
I realize they have a rookie they want to see, but at 3-3 and Fitz playing relatively well I just don't get this move. Fitz is throwing 70% completions and has this team in striking distance of a playoff spot. Let Tua get some first team reps but I'd wait for Fitz to have is usual mid-season slump before pulling him.
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fitz is good for about 8-9 starts before the wheels come off. division is still up for grabs. games 13-16, fitz has 43 TD/41 picks. Yards per game drops as does comp %.
 
fordman84 said:
Burrows is an extreme outlier to me because he started game 1 but had no pre-season games so it was like joining mid season. I'm thinking of guys like Mahomes who got to sit for a year and watch and learn and adjust then just stepped in and knew how to play. Instead of a panic move mid-season when you throw someone not ready yet to the wolves.
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Meh, I think we need to take freak of nature's like mahomes and Rodgers out of this conversation. Conversely, we should also take out day 1 freaks like peyton. All of those guys were going to be freaks no matter when they began.
 
Rock Strongo said:
fitz is good for about 8-9 starts before the wheels come off. division is still up for grabs. games 13-16, fitz has 43 TD/41 picks. Yards per game drops as does comp %.
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And even early in the season, he's on track to throw almost 20 int's
 
Rock Strongo said:
fitz is good for about 8-9 starts before the wheels come off. division is still up for grabs. games 13-16, fitz has 43 TD/41 picks. Yards per game drops as does comp %.
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so you play him while he's hot, bleed Tua in and he's ready when you need him.
 
CaptainStubing said:
Meh, I think we need to take freak of nature's like mahomes and Rodgers out of this conversation. Conversely, we should also take out day 1 freaks like peyton. All of those guys were going to be freaks no matter when they began.
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I agree with all but Mahomes. Sure he is a freak but his edge is his confidence and the confidence others have in him. It's hard for someone with question marks coming out of college to step in and really have that. He needed the time on the roster and showing his stuff in practice for everyone to have complete faith in him.
 
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