11/14 CFP Rankings Thread 9pm ET ESPN

[DayButtAssMans’s]

you are in 5th place right now.. as soon as one of the other teams lose you move up.. if you lose..then you JOBB'd yourself

No shit… is that how it works?

Now explain how the team with the most quality wins based on the rest of the rankings should be on the outside waiting for someone else to lose.

Yes, it’ll work itself out if UW wins all their games. But as it sits now, the only justification anyone can give is advanced metrics, so the committee is showing they value that over actual wins and quality of opponents.

 

[Thiefery]

No shit… is that how it works?

Now explain how the team with the most quality wins based on the rest of the rankings should be on the outside waiting for someone else to lose.

Yes, it’ll work itself out if UW wins all their games. But as it sits now, the only justification anyone can give is advanced metrics, so the committee is showing they value that over actual wins and quality of opponents.

you are correct Bama and UT should be over Udub and Oregon

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

That is pretty specific, and I like the way you think, but Michigan's weak schedule is not going to pass the playoff test unless they go undefeated.

But it kinda already has. Michigan is ranked ahead of two other undefeated teams. If Washington, Michigan and FSU all lose a game, Michigan is probably in. But it seems unlikely at this point that all 3 go down. Seems more likely we end with at least 4 undefeateds.

 

[Voltaire]

But it kinda already has. Michigan is ranked ahead of two other undefeated teams. If Washington, Michigan and FSU all lose a game, Michigan is probably in. But it seems unlikely at this point that all 3 go down. Seems more likely we end with at least 4 undefeateds.

I think we end up with 3 undefeated, but 4 undefeated P5 teams seems pretty plausible. If that is the case, then that should be the playoffs.

 

[Codaxx]

they aren't getting jobbed man

Washington and Oregon show how inconsistent the committee is. Hard to figure out the rationale that was Washington the worst undefeated team and Oregon the best 1 loss team. Either Washington is getting screwed or Oregon is ranked too high.

 

[ericd7633]

But it kinda already has. Michigan is ranked ahead of two other undefeated teams. If Washington, Michigan and FSU all lose a game, Michigan is probably in. But it seems unlikely at this point that all 3 go down. Seems more likely we end with at least 4 undefeateds.

12-1 Texas, and 12-1 Oregon are getting in ahead of Michigan for sure.

 

[DayButtAssMans’s]

you are correct Bama and UT should be over Udub and Oregon

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Not really a fan of the committees work.. They are completely ignoring SOS. OSU has better SOS, than Georgia. Washington better SOS and win than FSU. Oregon has the worst SOS of the 1 loss teams and least impressive win. Committee is sending a message that you are an idiot for scheduling anyone good

SOS is something that tends to balance out over the season. Some have strong schedules upfront, weaker toward the end.

tOSU is 42, UGA 65. We has a top 20 and top 10 school scheduled, tOSU has one top 10, and maybe a top 20. That's basically a wash. Bama and Texas as the only 2 who can bitch about SOS. Meanwhile, UGA has as good if not better wins than tOSU.

I am not sure about the love for FSU and Oregon over similarly situated teams.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

12-1 Texas, and 12-1 Oregon are getting in ahead of Michigan for sure.

It's so hard to say. But I don't think that's true. Most ofthe projections have both Michigan and Ohio State in, which suggest that the general belief is that people are elevating that loss, no matter which takes it. But I think it will depend on HOW the teams lose in the final weekend/CCG.

 

[Codaxx]

SOS is something that tends to balance out over the season. Some have strong schedules upfront, weaker toward the end.

tOSU is 42, UGA 65. We has a top 20 and top 10 school scheduled, tOSU has one top 10, and maybe a top 20. That's basically a wash. Bama and Texas as the only 2 who can bitch about SOS. Meanwhile, UGA has as good if not better wins than tOSU.

I am not sure about the love for FSU and Oregon over similarly situated teams.

SOS can balance out, but rankings should reflect what you have done currently. That is my issue with rankings. People are afraid they will look bad, so they project what they think will happen. Rankings should have massive volatility early in the season and slowly calm down each week.

 

[ericd7633]

It's so hard to say. But I don't think that's true. Most ofthe projections have both Michigan and Ohio State in, which suggest that the general belief is that people are elevating that loss, no matter which takes it. But I think it will depend on HOW the teams lose in the final weekend/CCG.

There has never been an instance where an 11-1 team has made it over a 12-1 conference champion. The resumes of Texas and Oregon would blow away Michigans.

 

[ELTEXAN]

I have to imagine that if 4 teams are undefeated, 4 teams are making it in. If 3 teams are undefeated and a 1 loss team enters, it's going to be the team with the "best" loss (IE the loss to their perceived highest ranked team).

Not if that loss is to a team which is also a 1-loss p5 conference champ.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

There has never been an instance where an 11-1 team has made it over a 12-1 conference champion. The resumes of Texas and Oregon would blow away Michigans.

We're also entering fairly unprecedented territory here with as many undefeated teams as there currently are. I think the closest comparison was Ohio State jumping 2 loss Penn State into the conference title game, in spite of losing to Penn State in season.

SOS is not the only determining factor here. And I think Michigan blowing out teams, in spite of a weaker schedule, is going to play into this. But again, no one knows. The team Texas lost to is 1-2 in the last 3 weeks.

 

[osubuckeye89]

We're also entering fairly unprecedented territory here with as many undefeated teams as there currently are. I think the closest comparison was Ohio State jumping 2 loss Penn State into the conference title game, in spite of losing to Penn State in season.

SOS is not the only determining factor here. And I think Michigan blowing out teams, in spite of a weaker schedule, is going to play into this. But again, no one knows. The team Texas lost to is 1-2 in the last 3 weeks.

It's not really a close comparison at all though. Ohio State had 1 loss and Penn State had 2

Penn State's 2 losses were to a 8-5 Pitt team and a blowout 39 point loss to Michigan. Take away the Pitt loss and they obviously are in over us. But the combo of those 2 losses are pretty bad and kept them out.

 

[Thiefery]

SOS is something that tends to balance out over the season. Some have strong schedules upfront, weaker toward the end.

tOSU is 42, UGA 65. We has a top 20 and top 10 school scheduled, tOSU has one top 10, and maybe a top 20. That's basically a wash. Bama and Texas as the only 2 who can bitch about SOS. Meanwhile, UGA has as good if not better wins than tOSU.

I am not sure about the love for FSU and Oregon over similarly situated teams.

FSU isn't getting love.. from what i listen to (Klatt, Wetzell, Mandel, etc) from pods.. is that FSU has a weak schedule.. which i don't think is the case.. that clemson team fought really hard as did LSU before getting smoked.

Udub and Oregon are getting a lot of love, probably because this is it for the PAC.. Bama is starting to get more and more love though.. and it's warranted.. from the worst Bama team in a decade to now looking to take on UGA in the CCG game.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

SOS can balance out, but rankings should reflect what you have done currently. That is my issue with rankings. People are afraid they will look bad, so they project what they think will happen. Rankings should have massive volatility early in the season and slowly calm down each week.

But that is where the nuance comes in. tOSU is 20 spots better than UGA for SOS. But, UGA has 2 better wins than tOSU (Ole Miss and Mizzou v. ND and PSU).

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

It's not really a close comparison at all though. Ohio State had 1 loss and Penn State had 2

Penn State's 2 losses were to a 8-5 Pitt team and a blowout 39 point loss to Michigan. Take away the Pitt loss and they obviously are in over us. But the combo of those 2 losses are pretty bad and kept them out.

Moving a team ahead of the conference champ (the team they lost to in season to lose the division) for a playoff spot is very comparable.

If there's an open spot and there's a bunch of 1 loss teams, nuance is going to play into it. And yes, winning the league will factor into it but the committee has already shown that winning the league isn't a necessity or THE deciding factor.

 

[osubuckeye89]

Moving a team ahead of the conference champ (the team they lost to in season to lose the division) for a playoff spot is very comparable.

If there's an open spot and there's a bunch of 1 loss teams, nuance is going to play into it. And yes, winning the league will factor into it but the committee has already shown that winning the league isn't a necessity or THE deciding factor.

Not its not. Penn State's extra loss was literally the reason for Ohio State moving ahead of them into the playoff.

Its not the same at all when everyone has the same amount of losses. Michigan or Ohio State is not getting in over 1 loss conference champs Oregon or Texas

 

[DayButtAssMans’s]

from what i listen to (Klatt, Wetzell, Mandel, etc) from pods.. l

Ah. This explains your dumbassery.

 

[Thiefery]

Not its not. Penn State's extra loss was literally the reason for Ohio State moving ahead of them into the playoff.

Its not the same at all when everyone has the same amount of losses. Michigan or Ohio State is not getting in over 1 loss conference champs Oregon or Texas

or one loss champion Bama right? would UGA be on the outside looking in?