More Michigan Cheating

MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Also -- the NCAA spent 8 months digging for something and found nothing. The report details almost exactly what we knew last october. What it doesn't mention is say is what level of violation those in person scouting sessions were. As I said last fall, it's very possible those are all level 2 violations; which is why the ESPN article talks about level 1 violations in relation to "pattern of noncompliance within the football program" and not "level 1 violations for in person scouting".....
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LOL

- 5 coaches committed Level 1 violations with their involvement in the Cheating Scandal, including Jim Harbaugh and Sherrone Moore

- New Michigan head coach Sherrone Moore deleted 52 text messages with Connor Stalions on the day the initial report came out

- Connor Stalions WAS on the sideline at Central Michigan

- Stalions illegally scouted at least 13 future Michigan opponents on at least 58 occasions between 2021 and 2023

- Stalions took hard drives with him and refused to cooperate with the NCAA

Which of those were you willing to agree to 8 months ago?

You are likely to get lucky because the NCAA is reluctant to levy penalties against players who weren't involved. You will get fined (your school doesn't care), and your coaches—the ones there and not there—will get show-cause penalties. Harbaugh doesn't care, and Moore will have had such a lousy year this coming year that you will be glad to see him go when this is finally adjudicated in 2025.

What should happen, and the Kentucky case makes this interesting, is that you should have all wins in the last three seasons vacated, including the NC.

For me, the beauty of all this is that UM fans will no longer drone on about their shit not stinking and all that Michigan Man bullshit that made them think they were above everyone else. Congrats ... you are now dirtier than the SEC teams you've always whined about.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
LOL

- 5 coaches committed Level 1 violations with their involvement in the Cheating Scandal, including Jim Harbaugh and Sherrone Moore

- New Michigan head coach Sherrone Moore deleted 52 text messages with Connor Stalions on the day the initial report came out

- Connor Stalions WAS on the sideline at Central Michigan

- Stalions illegally scouted at least 13 future Michigan opponents on at least 58 occasions between 2021 and 2023

- Stalions took hard drives with him and refused to cooperate with the NCAA

Which of those were you willing to agree to 8 months ago?

You are likely to get lucky because the NCAA is reluctant to levy penalties against players who weren't involved. You will get fined (your school doesn't care), and your coaches—the ones there and not there—will get show-cause penalties. Harbaugh doesn't care, and Moore will have had such a lousy year this coming year that you will be glad to see him go when this is finally adjudicated in 2025.

What should happen, and the Kentucky case makes this interesting, is that you should have all wins in the last three seasons vacated, including the NC.

For me, the beauty of all this is that UM fans will no longer drone on about their shit not stinking and all that Michigan Man bullshit that made them think they were above everyone else. Congrats ... you are now dirtier than the SEC teams you've always whined about.
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I'd argue that Harbaugh jetting for the NFL will likely save Michigan from very severe penalties, seems like the NCAA really wanted him, they are liable to go much easier with him gone.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I said if anything it was a secondary violation; which seems like it might be true. The worst part of this is going to be the NCAA deciding it is a repeat offender after the cheeseburger and stallion's actively covering up his actions and not participating in the interviews. The actual in person scouting "scheme" seems like it's taken a back seat to "well they don't like talking to the NCAA". Fuck the NCAA.

lol at the people who thought this was a big deal.
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UM fans are really the only ones who don't think this is a big deal.

This is all that most of us need to know:

Harbaugh was 49-26 at UM, on the verge of being fired. He was 40-3 after Stallions.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Harbaugh is a massive weirdo with a Asperger level personality, like I said he was winning with the 49ers and the first chance they had they dumped him because of that. Yet Michigan fans act like he is some genius charismatic individual, because most Michigan fans are likely at that same mental level.
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I actually think he's a half decent coach, definitely a weirdo but still a decent coach. I'll be honest I don't know to many UM fans but Jesus Maize a ridiculous idiotic homer. It's crazy. Are many of them like this?
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I'd argue that Harbaugh jetting for the NFL will likely save Michigan from very severe penalties, seems like the NCAA really wanted him, they are liable to go much easier with him gone.
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The thing cutting against them is that I think they are pretty pissed this happened and they won the NC. Moore will be seen as a repeat offender. The problem is that he was a terrible hire and UM will throw him under the bus.
 
ralphiewvu said:
I actually think he's a half decent coach, definitely a weirdo but still a decent coach. I'll be honest I don't know to many UM fans but Jesus Maize a ridiculous idiotic homer. It's crazy. Are many of them like this?
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UGA has had some doozies ... Jan Kemp, Jim Harrick, and right now our driving issues are embarrassing. In all those, I owned up to us being dumbasses. Maize appears to be the type of guy who simply can't see the obvious, or admit the obvious.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
UM fans are really the only ones who don't think this is a big deal.

This is all that most of us need to know:

Harbaugh was 49-26 at UM, on the verge of being fired. He was 40-3 after Stallions.
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No one thinks this is a big deal. Even sports media has turned.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
LOL

- 5 coaches committed Level 1 violations with their involvement in the Cheating Scandal, including Jim Harbaugh and Sherrone Moore

- New Michigan head coach Sherrone Moore deleted 52 text messages with Connor Stalions on the day the initial report came out

- Connor Stalions WAS on the sideline at Central Michigan

- Stalions illegally scouted at least 13 future Michigan opponents on at least 58 occasions between 2021 and 2023

- Stalions took hard drives with him and refused to cooperate with the NCAA

Which of those were you willing to agree to 8 months ago?

You are likely to get lucky because the NCAA is reluctant to levy penalties against players who weren't involved. You will get fined (your school doesn't care), and your coaches—the ones there and not there—will get show-cause penalties. Harbaugh doesn't care, and Moore will have had such a lousy year this coming year that you will be glad to see him go when this is finally adjudicated in 2025.

What should happen, and the Kentucky case makes this interesting, is that you should have all wins in the last three seasons vacated, including the NC.

For me, the beauty of all this is that UM fans will no longer drone on about their shit not stinking and all that Michigan Man bullshit that made them think they were above everyone else. Congrats ... you are now dirtier than the SEC teams you've always whined about.
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lol. We’re going to “get lucky” now. Or maybe it’s because they aren’t as serious as fans who hate us wanted them to be?
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
lol. We’re going to “get lucky” now. Or maybe it’s because they aren’t as serious as fans who hate us wanted them to be?
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Address the 5 bullet points you didn't know about 8 months ago. That's your shtick right now.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
UGA has had some doozies ... Jan Kemp, Jim Harrick, and right now our driving issues are embarrassing. In all those, I owned up to us being dumbasses. Maize appears to be the type of guy who simply can't see the obvious, or admit the obvious.
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Admit the obvious, he sees it. Trust me
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
The thing cutting against them is that I think they are pretty pissed this happened and they won the NC. Moore will be seen as a repeat offender. The problem is that he was a terrible hire and UM will throw him under the bus.
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My thing is how can they levy all these show causes and shit, basically admit they cheated big time, but then vacate zero wins and throw do no postseasons bans or anything? I don't doubt that they will do it but it makes no sense logically.

Like i've said nobody wants to admit the uncomfortable reality that entire seasons were compromised by one teams cheating actions.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Address the 5 bullet points you didn't know about 8 months ago. That's your shtick right now.
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He won't. Their entire schtick is constantly yelling that "everyone else does it!" and trying to deflect elsewhere (The Ryan Day and his Brother did all of this with illegal hacking! type shit)
 
Red_Alert said:
Are y'all really arguing with maze&blew about this.

The guy who last October denied any of this was a violation of NCAA rules, and denied that the guy on the CMU sideline was even Stallions (errbody looks like that guy), and said the light on Stallions sunglasses disguise was "just a reflection"?

LOL
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Not going to lie, that one was my favorite thus far. Well that or calling the video a screen grab.
 
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