Week 7 Playoff Projections

Believe what you want, but that is what happened. And I still don't think the Toledo win means anything even though it appears vitally important to you. If you can't tell me you believe Toledo is better than UGA then just drop it. it was a meaningless game.


I get it.

Only wins count when using a transitive property in the SEC.
 
I guess it depends on who the teams are.

You know a 2 loss Bama is getting into the playoff over 1 loss Indiana if it came down to it
A 1 loss Indiana would get in. The question we are discussing is if a 1 loss Indiana wasn't in the B1G CCG, and and 2 loss Bama was in the SECCG and lost, who would get the higher seed? @michaeljordan_fan made the point that if Indiana was ranked higher before CCG week, they would get the higher seed. That probably sounds right to me. But, if 2 loss Bama was ahead of 1 loss Indiana before CCG week, I don't think a CCG loss will drop Bama below Indiana for seeding. You shouldn't get rewarded for sitting at home of CCG week.
 
I get it.

Only wins count when using a transitive property in the SEC.
Are you asserting that Toledo is better than UGA? You don't want to answer that question because I have asked it numerous times. You keep asserting that Toledo's win over MSU was better than UGAs. Why? Because you think Toledo is better than UGA? My point is that you can't compare games like that - everyone knows that. So, one last time, are you asserting that Toldeo would beat UGA?
 
Are you asserting that Toledo is better than UGA? You don't want to answer that question because I have asked it numerous times. You keep asserting that Toledo's win over MSU was better than UGAs. Why? Because you think Toledo is better than UGA? My point is that you can't compare games like that - everyone knows that. So, one last time, are you asserting that Toldeo would beat UGA?

No. I'm asserting that Georgia is vastly overrated because.....

SEC. It just means more.
 
Are you asserting that Toledo is better than UGA? You don't want to answer that question because I have asked it numerous times. You keep asserting that Toledo's win over MSU was better than UGAs. Why? Because you think Toledo is better than UGA? My point is that you can't compare games like that - everyone knows that. So, one last time, are you asserting that Toldeo would beat UGA?
Sort of like Auburn getting pulverized by NMSU at home last year and then nearly knocking off Bama the next week. Strange things can happen any given Saturday.
 
A 1 loss Indiana would get in. The question we are discussing is if a 1 loss Indiana wasn't in the B1G CCG, and and 2 loss Bama was in the SECCG and lost, who would get the higher seed? @michaeljordan_fan made the point that if Indiana was ranked higher before CCG week, they would get the higher seed. That probably sounds right to me. But, if 2 loss Bama was ahead of 1 loss Indiana before CCG week, I don't think a CCG loss will drop Bama below Indiana for seeding. You shouldn't get rewarded for sitting at home of CCG week.
would score matter?
If Bama had the 2 losses and lost championship game to undefeated TX by 3 in the closing minute vs a 3 score blow out would that matter in the seeding?
 
No. I'm asserting that Georgia is vastly overrated because.....

SEC. It just means more.
Let me get this right ... you are basing your belief that Georgia is vastly overrated because we beat MSU 41-31 and Toldeo beat them by more? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

I mean, it's fair to say UGA is overrated. We were ranked no. 1, got beat last minute at Bama, and barely won at Kentucky. We also clubbed Auburn and destroyed Clemson, who is favored to win the ACC. But, I have no problem with people questioning UGA right now. We are not in the top 5 D like usual, and our O is doing well but starts slow. Beck has already thrown 5 INTs when he had 6 all last year. We are missing McConkey and Bowers more than I thought we would. And we've had some bad injuries. Those are all totally valid reasons for questioning UGA, but not vastly ... that's just dumb. And what's even more dumb is to keep relying on Toledo beating MSU by more than we did. That game was never in doubt ... Beck was picked off at the goal line, and they hit some long passes so it was 41-31 instead of 41-17. But I am guessing you didn't even watch the game.

Looks like you just have some SEC envy in you. You are a member of the other P2 conference, so get some pride about you and quit whining like a little girl and needing Toledo to make you feel better.
 
Sort of like Auburn getting pulverized by NMSU at home last year and then nearly knocking off Bama the next week. Strange things can happen any given Saturday.
I know, how he doesn't understand that is beyond me. I'll share what one of the Rivals insiders said about it. I don't know if it is true or not, but it goes to show people that don't know anything about how teams work. I think he would be shocked to know that teams often don't open up their playbooks early in the year against lesser opponents so as to not give away information you don't need to give away. For example, Bama did stuff in the first half of our game that they hadn't done at any time that year. Took our coaches by surprise.

The Rivals insider pointed out that in the second half we ran a ton of defensive schemes that we don't normally run, tried a bunch of new things, basically treating it like a scrimmage. I am normally skeptical about these types of posts, but this guy is a certified insider who is in the program, and I am only putting this here because if it is true it's one more reason why UGA looked at and treated the game different than Toledo did and why comparing the two is idiotic. Here is what he said, take it for what it is worth.

Point I’m making is that we held a scrimmage with new stuff and the kids didn’t respond well. The corner opposite of 6 is the liability until further notice. Julio just isn’t physical and unless the call is press man Harris struggles like crazy with WHO to cover. Good news nobody is just getting abused. If you want to fault 6 for the first TD peep the design. At the snap of the ball the guy that turned up was blocking and had lined up on the opposite side presnap. The kid that caught it is an NFL guy 1 day. The things that plagued us vs Auburn in the run game were completely cleaned up with the first group running the actual defense. They had 1 drive outside of that that took 2 busts to score on. Everyone needs to breathe just a bit.

I hate giving up 31 points, I hate they breached 300 yards of offense. But it’s not the D going backwards, it’s the staff tinkering, it’s not the DB’s playing “pac 2 defense” albeit Donte may not be back. It’s the constant desire to evolve and tinker not working out. That’s why it’s done vs Miss state. None of what they hit us with are things Texas or anyone else on the schedule can build upon either. In crunch time that’s not what we do. It wasn’t anything like what happened at bama either.


For Toledo, this was their game of the year. For UGA it was a trap game before we go play Texas.

The reference to - “pac 2 defense” albeit Donte - is that some people aren't happy our DB coach is from USC, not exactly the place where D was something that was good. Donte Williams picked a bad time to come to UGA and have our DBs play as poorly as I've seen since Smart's year 1.
 
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would score matter?
If Bama had the 2 losses and lost championship game to undefeated TX by 3 in the closing minute vs a 3 score blow out would that matter in the seeding?
It's a good point and something to be considered. I wrote in another post that if you got blown out by 30 points, it might make a difference. But I believe they will still be very reluctant to put a team ahead who didn't risk anything ... who says that team wouldn't have gotten blown up by 30+ if they had been good enough to play the No. 1 B1G team? Instead they say at home.
 
Let me get this right ... you are basing your belief that Georgia is vastly overrated because we beat MSU 41-31 and Toldeo beat them by more? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

I mean, it's fair to say UGA is overrated. We were ranked no. 1, got beat last minute at Bama, and barely won at Kentucky. We also clubbed Auburn and destroyed Clemson, who is favored to win the ACC. But, I have no problem with people questioning UGA right now. We are not in the top 5 D like usual, and our O is doing well but starts slow. Beck has already thrown 5 INTs when he had 6 all last year. We are missing McConkey and Bowers more than I thought we would. And we've had some bad injuries. Those are all totally valid reasons for questioning UGA, but not vastly ... that's just dumb. And what's even more dumb is to keep relying on Toledo beating MSU by more than we did. That game was never in doubt ... Beck was picked off at the goal line, and they hit some long passes so it was 41-31 instead of 41-17. But I am guessing you didn't even watch the game.

Looks like you just have some SEC envy in you. You are a member of the other P2 conference, so get some pride about you and quit whining like a little girl and needing Toledo to make you feel better.

No. I'm not just basing my opinion on Georgia struggling against Mississippi St. who lost to Toledo 41-17 in Starkville.

I'm also basing my opinion on Georgia struggling with Kentucky and trailing Bama 30-7 at halftime before Bama took their foot off the gas and let Georgia back in it.
That's also the Bama that lost to Vandy.

That you "clubbed Auburn and destroyed Clemson" is exactly what I said it is.

The SEC fans use the transitive property when it comes to wins, but when it comes to losses.... "nAw YoU cAn'T Do tHaT"
 
No. I'm not just basing my opinion on Georgia struggling against Mississippi St. who lost to Toledo 41-17 in Starkville.

I'm also basing my opinion on Georgia struggling with Kentucky and trailing Bama 30-7 at halftime before Bama took their foot off the gas and let Georgia back in it.
That's also the Bama that lost to Vandy.

That you "clubbed Auburn and destroyed Clemson" is exactly what I said it is.

The SEC fans use the transitive property when it comes to wins, but when it comes to losses.... "nAw YoU cAn'T Do tHaT"
You didn't watch the game if you think we struggled with MSU. At least watch the games you are going to comment on. That game was never in doubt. Ever.

Your last two sentences don't make sense. Me looking at our wins is not the transitive property. If you are going to assert that we are overrated, then I can point to actual games to argue against that. I even pointed at actual games that we lost or played close to concede that it is fair to question UGA this year. One of us is being rational. But comparing UGA and Toledo against a common opponent is meaningless if you don't dig into why those things happened. For example, do you know that each game had different MSU QBs? I have no idea if that was why they played better against UGA, but it's why you don't make solid comparisons that way.

Take the last word, I'm done with this argument.
 
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It's a good point and something to be considered. I wrote in another post that if you got blown out by 30 points, it might make a difference. But I believe they will still be very reluctant to put a team ahead who didn't risk anything ... who says that team wouldn't have gotten blown up by 30+ if they had been good enough to play the No. 1 B1G team? Instead they say at home.
ok so how about the scenario of Oregon undefeated vs Ohio State 1 loss to Oregon for the Big Ten while Indiana only misses due to 1 loss head to head to Ohio State by 3 or less?
 
You didn't watch the game if you think we struggled with MSU. At least watch the games you are going to comment on. That game was never in doubt. Ever.

HAHA

You're running out of excuses. Should have stuck with the "clubbing Auburn and destroying Clemson" narrative.
 
ok so how about the scenario of Oregon undefeated vs Ohio State 1 loss to Oregon for the Big Ten while Indiana only misses due to 1 loss head to head to Ohio State by 3 or less?
I don't have time to go over every possible scenario but the committee would have ranked Indiana ni the top 10 at that point. Let's say that Texas beats a one loss UGA who then has 2 losses. UGA would get seeded before a 1 loss Indiana. As would the loser of Oregon v. tOSU. Indiana would the the 3rd B1G seed and likely at 7 or 8, depending on where ND is in that scenario. In general, they don't get to stay at home and move in front of teams that played on CCG weekend.

Every mock that I have seen of the CFP-12 has the P2 CCG losers being ranked 5 or 6. This isn't some novel concept.
 
Again, they won't penalize the loser of a CCG. And, the idea that the B1G no. 3 will be ahead of the SEC no. 2 before conference championship wee requires that your top 3 teams don't lose to each other, or lose other games. I suppose that's possible, but not likely. If that desont' happen, it doesn't say much for your strength of conference, or you scheduling.

It's quite possible that osu beats psu and Oregon in the b1g, which creates that scenario.

2 loss sec team (entering the seccg) is not going to be ranked above osu, psu, or Oregon
 
Sort of like Auburn getting pulverized by NMSU at home last year and then nearly knocking off Bama the next week. Strange things can happen any given Saturday.
The last sentence folks. That is the deal. We are dealing with kids in their late, late teens and early twenties (unless you are Cam Rising and/or Cam McCormick). We have no idea where their heads are. That is why I have no earthly idea why I bet on college sports. Anyway, these players come out and think a team is a pushover, or just the results of the last few seasons matter in the game this season. Some of these players are getting straight up paid and can’t get their heads out their asses. If any season goes to show anything can happen, it damn sure is this season.
 
The last sentence folks. That is the deal. We are dealing with kids in their late, late teens and early twenties (unless you are Cam Rising and/or Cam McCormick). We have no idea where their heads are. That is why I have no earthly idea why I bet on college sports. Anyway, these players come out and think a team is a pushover, or just the results of the last few seasons matter in the game this season. Some of these players are getting straight up paid and can’t get their heads out their asses. If any season goes to show anything can happen, it damn sure is this season.
I know why I bet on college sports. I am a degenerate with disposable income and no impulse control. But yeah, any given Saturday man.
 
ISU is such an odd team in this whole thing. They are good, but it is hard to tell how good. I think they are as good as the 2020 team, which was the best ISU team of all-time with Purdy, Hall, Kolar, McDonald, etc.

However, the teams on the schedule are underwhelming in the W-L column this year, which helps ISU win, but it keeps us from seeing how good they might really be.

I see 10-0 until they play @ Utah, but they could easily drop that game and K-State at home the next week and finish 10-2 and in the Alamo Bowl.

On the other hand, they could finish 12-0 and play 12-0 BYU in the Big Xii Championship Game which would be OUTSTANDING!

My guess is they split the difference, finsh 11-1 and have a 50-50 chance to win the auto-bid in the Big XII Championship Game. A loss and who knows?

Just enjoying the ride from week to week. 2017 National Champion UCF coming to town this week! :) The weather is suppose to beglorious in Ames this weekend.
 
ISU is such an odd team in this whole thing. They are good, but it is hard to tell how good. I think they are as good as the 2020 team, which was the best ISU team of all-time with Purdy, Hall, Kolar, McDonald, etc.

However, the teams on the schedule are underwhelming in the W-L column this year, which helps ISU win, but it keeps us from seeing how good they might really be.

I see 10-0 until they play @ Utah, but they could easily drop that game and K-State at home the next week and finish 10-2 and in the Alamo Bowl.

On the other hand, they could finish 12-0 and play 12-0 BYU in the Big Xii Championship Game which would be OUTSTANDING!

My guess is they split the difference, finsh 11-1 and have a 50-50 chance to win the auto-bid in the Big XII Championship Game. A loss and who knows?

Just enjoying the ride from week to week. 2017 National Champion UCF coming to town this week! :) The weather is suppose to beglorious in Ames this weekend.
I don't see ISU losing to Utah. I honestly haven't been impressed with them all year, even when Rising was healthy. They have two uninspiring wins over Ok State and Baylor, who it turns out aren't good, and then lost to the Arizonas the last two weeks. I may have to try and catch some of the ISU-TTech game in a couple weeks, as that could be a lot better than originally thought with how Tech is playing. Gun to my head, I'm gonna guess it's ISU/BYU in the CCG.
 
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