Oregon 12 man on field leads to quick rule change ...

[WhosYourDawggy]

The rule has been changed:

This did not seem like the utterance of a coach who thought his team had brilliantly exploited a loophole in the rules to deprive Ohio State of precious seconds at the end of the game. And it makes me think that the Ducks were more lucky than intentional in taking a penalty that helped win that game—a penalty that has led to a hurry-up rule change in college football.

The change—excuse me, “rules interpretation”—was announced by the NCAA Wednesday:

“After the two-minute timeout in either half, if the defense commits a substitution foul and 12 or more players are on the field and participate in a down, officials will penalize the defense for the foul and, at the option of the offended team, reset the game clock back to the time displayed at the snap.

“The game clock will then restart on the next snap. If the 12th defender was attempting to exit but was still on the field at the snap and had no influence on the play, then the normal substitution penalty of 5 yards would be enforced with no clock adjustment.”

 

[fordman84]

All Lanning had to do was not be obvious about it in his presser and he could keep using the play he had practiced. But if you are going to use it up, use it to win that game.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

All Lanning had to do was not be obvious about it in his presser and he could keep using the play he had practiced. But if you are going to use it up, use it to win that game.

So I thought about this, and it seems like you could take this two ways:

1) We didn't do it on purpose, we were just incompetent with how we handled an end of game situation
2) Our coaching staff is on the cutting edge of innovation; of course we looked at how to best handle an end of game situation like this.


#2 plays better with recruits.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

So I thought about this, and it seems like you could take this two ways:

1) We didn't do it on purpose, we were just incompetent with how we handled an end of game situation
2) Our coaching staff is on the cutting edge of innovation; of course we looked at how to best handle an end of game situation like this.


#2 plays better with recruits.

Pat Forde of SI was on the elevator with the Oregon coaches after the game and one of them said something like "Fucking 12 men on the field penalty was dumb" or something like that. He said that didn't sound like they were gleeful about it. Then again he said maybe they were playing him and the press on the elevator.

 

[101stAB]

Well. The ducks had to cheat to win.

Go sitdown by Michigan.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Well. The ducks had to cheat to win.

Go sitdown by Michigan.

Nah. We good.

 

[duckboy33]

Pat Forde of SI was on the elevator with the Oregon coaches after the game and one of them said something like "Fucking 12 men on the field penalty was dumb" or something like that. He said that didn't sound like they were gleeful about it. Then again he said maybe they were playing him and the press on the elevator.

At the time, they were running guys off and on and there looked to be confusion. I'm not 100% sold it was intentional.

 

[Red_Alert]

At the time, they were running guys off and on and there looked to be confusion. I'm not 100% sold it was intentional.

 

[Pitman]

So it was a grey area

 

[trojanfan12]

At the time, they were running guys off and on and there looked to be confusion. I'm not 100% sold it was intentional.

If it was intentional...it was fucking genius. tOSU needed the time more than they needed the 5 yards.

 

[PeoplesChicken]

Is anyone else really surprised as the swiftness of the NCAA on this? I mean it took them 20 years to decide to allow helmet mics

 

[duckboy33]

Nobody has ever inadvertently done something smart and then pretended they did it on purpose. Nope, never

 

[ELTEXAN]

The rule has been changed:

This did not seem like the utterance of a coach who thought his team had brilliantly exploited a loophole in the rules to deprive Ohio State of precious seconds at the end of the game. And it makes me think that the Ducks were more lucky than intentional in taking a penalty that helped win that game—a penalty that has led to a hurry-up rule change in college football.

The change—excuse me, “rules interpretation”—was announced by the NCAA Wednesday:

“After the two-minute timeout in either half, if the defense commits a substitution foul and 12 or more players are on the field and participate in a down, officials will penalize the defense for the foul and, at the option of the offended team, reset the game clock back to the time displayed at the snap.

“The game clock will then restart on the next snap. If the 12th defender was attempting to exit but was still on the field at the snap and had no influence on the play, then the normal substitution penalty of 5 yards would be enforced with no clock adjustment.”

Literally what I wrote as a “FIX” seconds after it happened. ElTexan, always right

 

[Across The Field]

Is anyone else really surprised as the swiftness of the NCAA on this? I mean it took them 20 years to decide to allow helmet mics

I don't think I've ever seen a team use this loophole to their advantage before Oregon did it. The NCAA realized how big of a fuckup it is to let it remain so they made a quick decision. Nothing is ever a problem until it is.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Is anyone else really surprised as the swiftness of the NCAA on this? I mean it took them 20 years to decide to allow helmet mics

Time is relative as it took the Catholic Church 2000 years to stop saying the Mass in Latin.

 

[PeoplesChicken]

Time is relative as it took the Catholic Church 2000 years to stop saying the Mass in Latin.

Historically, that has been the pace of the NCAA

 

[PeoplesChicken]

I don't think I've ever seen a team use this loophole to their advantage before Oregon did it. The NCAA realized how big of a fuckup it is to let it remain so they made a quick decision. Nothing is ever a problem until it is.

You are right. But the NCAA is notoriously slow to adapt and seems to prefer forming committees, sub-committees, and the like before making any changes

 

[Across The Field]

You are right. But the NCAA is notoriously slow to adapt and seems to prefer forming committees, sub-committees, and the like before making any changes

Oh you're not wrong, but this had the potential to become a major headache for them if it happened in more games. They at least got out in front of this before it went on any longer.

 

[OlyDuck]

Does this make oregon the new home of the 12th man?

 

[CoalTrain]

Amazing, horribly inconsistent targeting and pass interference rules plus fake injuries hurting your game for years yet they can correct this one in less than a week