AP Poll is interesting ...

osubuckeye89 said:
I can only assume the same built in SEC bias injected into the FPI is in their SOS shit as well
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Look, commonsense tells you UGA isn't 30th. I don't care if it's 3rd or 5th, but it sure as hell isn't 30th. Anything that far off is nuts.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
That metric is bad! It doesn't favor my team!
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You look at our schedule and tell me who the other 29 are that are harder. Hell, give me 5. It's not that it's my team—it's that it is patently obvious nonsense when every other SOS ranking disagrees by a wide margin.

Look, I wish it were someone else's team with the tougher schedule. I have just been using it as the extreme example as we have discussed IU's easy schedule.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
@WhosYourDawggy probably legit thinks Florida is a very tough opponent you gotta take that into account
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Nope. Not sure how they accout for specific teams. Just reading the SOS rankings.

Man, you guys are getting worked up about some of us simply taking SOS. Wonder why that is? LOL.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
Silence from @WhosYourDawggy after getting wrecked
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So, I use ESPN's and people objected to that. Ok. Someone said Sagarin, a long time SOS guy. Ok, UGA #1 there. So then someone says the only one to use is Colleys. It has UGA #30.

ESPN - #1
Sagarin - #1
Colley - #30

One of those doesn't match up with the others. Now, had Colley had UGA at 3, or 5, or even 10, that's cool. But 30 just makes you realize it's nonsense.

Here are some more - randomly looked up:

NCAA College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings & Ratings

NCAA College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings & Ratings from TeamRankings.com, your source for NCAAF computer power rankings.
www.teamrankings.com www.teamrankings.com

Massey Ratings - College Football : FBS Ratings

Computer ratings and rankings for CF (College Football), with links to team predictions, scores, and schedules.
masseyratings.com

All with UGA no. 1. I can do this all day. Again, 1, 3, 5, don't care. 30, we can agree to just to ignore that, right?
 
ehh as far as my Horns.. we have the chance to beat the schools that handed the others a loss..

Vandy (Bama) Win
Arkansas (TN)
KY (Ole Miss)
aggy (LSU)

still hoping for a rematch in the CCG vs UGA
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
So, I use ESPN's and people objected to that. Ok. Someone said Sagarin, a long time SOS guy. Ok, UGA #1 there. So then someone says the only one to use is Colleys. It has UGA #30.

ESPN - #1
Sagarin - #1
Colley - #30

One of those doesn't match up with the others. Now, had Colley had UGA at 3, or 5, or even 10, that's cool. But 30 just makes you realize it's nonsense.

Here are some more - randomly looked up:

NCAA College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings & Ratings

NCAA College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings & Ratings from TeamRankings.com, your source for NCAAF computer power rankings.
www.teamrankings.com www.teamrankings.com

Massey Ratings - College Football : FBS Ratings

Computer ratings and rankings for CF (College Football), with links to team predictions, scores, and schedules.
masseyratings.com

All with UGA no. 1. I can do this all day. Again, 1, 3, 5, don't care. 30, we can agree to just to ignore that, right?
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Massey has Georgia at #1 SOS also.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
So, I use ESPN's and people objected to that. Ok. Someone said Sagarin, a long time SOS guy. Ok, UGA #1 there. So then someone says the only one to use is Colleys. It has UGA #30.

ESPN - #1
Sagarin - #1
Colley - #30

One of those doesn't match up with the others. Now, had Colley had UGA at 3, or 5, or even 10, that's cool. But 30 just makes you realize it's nonsense.

Here are some more - randomly looked up:

NCAA College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings & Ratings

NCAA College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings & Ratings from TeamRankings.com, your source for NCAAF computer power rankings.
www.teamrankings.com www.teamrankings.com

Massey Ratings - College Football : FBS Ratings

Computer ratings and rankings for CF (College Football), with links to team predictions, scores, and schedules.
masseyratings.com

All with UGA no. 1. I can do this all day. Again, 1, 3, 5, don't care. 30, we can agree to just to ignore that, right?
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Clemson - Home game against an average team
Tenn Tech- Garbage
@ Kentucky - Garbage
@ Alabama - Loss
Auburn - Garbage
Miss St - Garbage
@ Texas - Good win. Texas has played an absolute garbage schedule and we still don't know if they are any good.
Florida - Garbage
@ Ole Miss - Loss

Trade that schedule with most good teams and you are ending with the same results 7-2
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
So, I use ESPN's and people objected to that. Ok. Someone said Sagarin, a long time SOS guy. Ok, UGA #1 there. So then someone says the only one to use is Colleys. It has UGA #30.

ESPN - #1
Sagarin - #1
Colley - #30

One of those doesn't match up with the others. Now, had Colley had UGA at 3, or 5, or even 10, that's cool. But 30 just makes you realize it's nonsense.

Here are some more - randomly looked up:

NCAA College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings & Ratings

NCAA College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings & Ratings from TeamRankings.com, your source for NCAAF computer power rankings.
www.teamrankings.com www.teamrankings.com

Massey Ratings - College Football : FBS Ratings

Computer ratings and rankings for CF (College Football), with links to team predictions, scores, and schedules.
masseyratings.com

All with UGA no. 1. I can do this all day. Again, 1, 3, 5, don't care. 30, we can agree to just to ignore that, right?
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Georgia has played a difficult schedule. My issue from the beginning is lumping ALL the SEC into it. UGA and Bama have played significantly harder schedules than Texas, Tennessee, and Ole Miss and should be treated as such. Using Sagarin, Massey, Colley or FPI doesn't matter. Those teams need to be separated from each other.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
They don't "fix" the bracket. They just make the rankings. Decide #1. Decide #2. Decide #3. Decide #4. etc.
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Show me where I used the term "fix". I'll wait.

You're naive as hell if you don't think such things go on within that committee. If they have 3-4 teams that data doesn't differentiate among them, they each make the case for which order to put them in. And some committee members pull more weight among the group than others. They have to make a call and external influences can impact that decision.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Well we obviously aren't going to have a bunch of ACC or Big 12 teams in.

I think they conference champion auto bid and the G5 Auto Bid are both stupid at this point.

Bet the G5 stipulation gets changed the moment we get some random unmarketable 2 loss G5 like Bowling Green or some shit as the team.
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Me too and have voiced such very often on here. Believe it or not, from what I understand, the P2 actually wanted them included automatically. Not sure they wanted a bye guaranteed. But they did want representation from them.

As a fan of a G5 team, be it a bad one, I think they G5s should have a separate playoff. JMO
 
ericd7633 said:
Georgia has played a difficult schedule. My issue from the beginning is lumping ALL the SEC into it. UGA and Bama have played significantly harder schedules than Texas, Tennessee, and Ole Miss and should be treated as such. Using Sagarin, Massey, Colley or FPI doesn't matter. Those teams need to be separated from each other.
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The SEC has 8 of the top 11 schedules. I don't care who they are. That was the only point I was making. I am certainly not going to argue that Texas has played a tough schedule ... I've poked the Texas Honks here about their easy schedule.

By the way, SOS only means 2 things - whether you get credit for it against a team that has one less loss, and seeding. Other than that you have to win the games you play. We've lost 2. Lose one more and we are out and no matter our SOS we won't get in. That's the way it goes. Unlike FSU, I won't pitch a fit.
 
Deep Creek said:
Me too and have voiced such very often on here. Believe it or not, from what I understand, the P2 actually wanted them included automatically. Not sure they wanted a bye guaranteed. But they did want representation from them.

As a fan of a G5 team, be it a bad one, I think they G5s should have a separate playoff. JMO
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Probably some legal, anti-trust positioning going on there. Also, they will want AQs in the future. Better to say they supported them all along.

I'm with you on the G5 playoff. They just need to figure out how they can make as much or money doing that. Hell, I've always said I'd like Vandy to play in a Brainiac Conference with Duke. Stanford, Cal, NW, etc. I'd go to a lot more games if they did that.
 
dhoey said:
Clemson - Home game against an average team
Tenn Tech- Garbage
@ Kentucky - Garbage
@ Alabama - Loss
Auburn - Garbage
Miss St - Garbage
@ Texas - Good win. Texas has played an absolute garbage schedule and we still don't know if they are any good.
Florida - Garbage
@ Ole Miss - Loss

Trade that schedule with most good teams and you are ending with the same results 7-2
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By most good teams, you mean the top 5 - 8, right. Anyone outside the top 10 isn't winning 3 of those 5 games.
 
Deep Creek said:
Show me where I used the term "fix". I'll wait.

You're naive as hell if you don't think such things go on within that committee. If they have 3-4 teams that data doesn't differentiate among them, they each make the case for which order to put them in. And some committee members pull more weight among the group than others. They have to make a call and external influences can impact that decision.
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I agree with this. It might even be somewhat unconscious, but if 9-12 are all basically the same team, why not line them up for the best TV. I mean can anyone tell the difference between a bunch of 10-2 teams? Other than UGA, of course.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Probably some legal, anti-trust positioning going on there. Also, they will want AQs in the future. Better to say they supported them all along.

I'm with you on the G5 playoff. They just need to figure out how they can make as much or money doing that. Hell, I've always said I'd like Vandy to play in a Brainiac Conference with Duke. Stanford, Cal, NW, etc. I'd go to a lot more games if they did that.
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This. They can't. Ratings wouldn't fund it. As long as the P2 is willing to give them more crumbs than they could make with their own playoff, they'll have to live with those golden handcuffs.
 
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