Oregon/Ohio State

Everyone signed on for this.

We exchanged the eye test over what team looked the best over the regular season for a tournament to decide what one single team would be crowned champion.

This year that team is Ohio State and they is no doubt about it.

Further, by choosing this format everyone accepts that eventually the 12th ranked team with 2 or maybe even 3 losses going in will win it and be crowned.

This is how it all works.

The more talented team doesn't always win every game. Great teams can have bad games and lose to teams they shouldn't.

The champion every year won't necessarily be the best/ most talented team that year, but will be last one standing and earn the crown.

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You can argue that Oregon had the best regular season in collage ball this year. There is no trophy for that.

You can't argue that Ohio State didn't earn and deserve to be called champions. They were the best team at the end of the season.
 
Wizardhawk said:
Everyone signed on for this.

We exchanged the eye test over what team looked the best over the regular season for a tournament to decide what one single team would be crowned champion.

This year that team is Ohio State and they is no doubt about it.

Further, by choosing this format everyone accepts that eventually the 12th ranked team with 2 or maybe even 3 losses going in will win it and be crowned.

This is how it all works.

The more talented team doesn't always win every game. Great teams can have bad games and lose to teams they shouldn't.

The champion every year won't necessarily be the best/ most talented team that year, but will be last one standing and earn the crown.

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A fluke team isnt winning 4 straight games vs top 10 teams in football. I'd say the team who does that is the "more talented team"
 
Wizardhawk said:
You can argue that Oregon had the best regular season in collage ball this year. There is no trophy for that.

You can't argue that Ohio State didn't earn and deserve to be called champions. They were the best team at the end of the season.
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It's NFL lite now. The regular season isn't completely meaningless, obviously you still have to do enough to make the playoff but it definitely doesn't matter as much as it did in the past.

Its going to be tough to go 16-0, we will more than likely see more 2 loss champs than 0 loss champs going forward.

I just find it funny how it's suddenly "bad for the sport" when Ohio State wins it without even playing in their conference title game, nobody was making that claim when Bama did it TWICE in the last 15 years.
 
Wizardhawk said:
You can argue that Oregon had the best regular season in collage ball this year. There is no trophy for that.

You can't argue that Ohio State didn't earn and deserve to be called champions. They were the best team at the end of the season.
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Close, but LSU 2019 may be a little better (could be others, that's the one that I thought of immediately):

9 UF
12 Auburn
13 Bama
5 UGA

Here's Oregon this yaer

9 BSU
1 tOSU
20 Ilinois
4 PSU
 
williewilliejuan said:
My daughters compete in a gymnastics competition that is held annually at the Star, usually on Super Bowl weekend. Jerry knows he won’t need it during that time.
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Next time you are there tell Jerry to return my calls. Between you and me, this illegitimate child thing with him is a freaking gold mine!
 
osubuckeye89 said:
A fluke team isnt winning 4 straight games vs top 10 teams in football. I'd say the team who does that is the "more talented team"
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We see it all the time. Teams with far less overall team talent that find a way to beat the more talented team. Sometimes the stronger team just plays flat or otherwise makes too many mistakes. Sometimes the weaker teams just find a game where they play over their heads. It happens.

When it comes to games at the end of the year though, you have to add the more healthy team and can't ignore the kids who sit out to protect their draft stock against postseason injury and other such nonsense.

A 12th ranked team at some point will play over their heads and win it all and everyone who wanted this format signed on for it. They will deserve to be called champion and it doesn't matter how they got there. It's the format you all wanted.

OD went from 'bring on Texas! bring on Georgia! leave no doubt!' to 'Not fair Oregon had to take a bye! Not fair the bracket had so many tough teams on one side! Not fair Oregon had to play the #8 seed in their first playoff game!'.

Some just can't cope with reality.
 
Wizardhawk said:
We see it all the time. Teams with far less overall team talent that find a way to beat the more talented team. Sometimes the stronger team just plays flat or otherwise makes too many mistakes. Sometimes the weaker teams just find a game where they play over their heads. It happens.

When it comes to games at the end of the year though, you have to add the more healthy team and can't ignore the kids who sit out to protect their draft stock against postseason injury and other such nonsense.

A 12th ranked team at some point will play over their heads and win it all and everyone who wanted this format signed on for it. They will deserve to be called champion and it doesn't matter how they got there. It's the format you all wanted.

OD went from 'bring on Texas! bring on Georgia! leave no doubt!' to 'Not fair Oregon had to take a bye! Not fair the bracket had so many tough teams on one side! Not fair Oregon had to play the #8 seed in their first playoff game!'.

Some just can't cope with reality.
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A team with "far less talent" can win one game (see TCU in the semi vs Michigan) but its going to be very hard for a team like that to string together 3 or 4 straight wins against upper level teams. Football is not basketball.

If the 12th ranked team is a team like Alabama who's loaded with upper end talent but loses 2-3 games it can happen. But SMU/Boise type teams aren't making that run.
 
Shanemansj13 said:
That seems extremely unlikely even in a dream considering Oregon shits the bed in every meaningful game. Maybe they have a chance in another lifetime
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In your opinion there is only one meaningful game per season?
 
osubuckeye89 said:
A team with "far less talent" can win one game (see TCU in the semi vs Michigan) but its going to be very hard for a team like that to string together 3 or 4 straight wins against upper level teams. Football is not basketball.

If the 12th ranked team is a team like Alabama who's loaded with upper end talent but loses 2-3 games it can happen. But SMU/Boise type teams aren't making that run.
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Super low chance =/= no chance.

But all of this misses the point entirely. The point was that it doesn't matter if some 3rd tier ranking puts Oregon at the top of their season ending list. That we could end up with a worse team winning it all says it doesn't matter for any season ending rankings, even the AP. We threw all of that out with this playoff system. We get ONE and only ONE champion and national trophy. If you can't survive that tournament you aren't the champion of college football that year.
 
Wizardhawk said:
Super low chance =/= no chance.

But all of this misses the point entirely. The point was that it doesn't matter if some 3rd tier ranking puts Oregon at the top of their season ending list. That we could end up with a worse team winning it all says it doesn't matter for any season ending rankings, even the AP. We threw all of that out with this playoff system. We get ONE and only ONE champion and national trophy. If you can't survive that tournament you aren't the champion of college football that year.
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I'd give it a <1% chance of a team with the makeup of a SMU or Boise ever winning 3-4 games in a row to win the 12 team playoff.

But yes the winner of the playoff is the champion no matter what some pencil dick computer system says or some retarded fans want to claim. Nobody is going to take any of that seriously except said retarded fans (OD)

Some people are just gonna have to get used to the fact that conference championships don't mean too much anymore and that we are going to see multiple loss champions more often than undefeated champions.

The expanded playoff is for the best in the end, it's way better to have it play out on the field than having voters or computer systems decide who the champion is.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
With how things are now the playoffs are ultimate the real meaningful games.
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So all playoff games are meaningful? Just trying to get your definition. Conference Championship games not meaningful- playoff games are? Is that a fair assessment?
 
My favorite is the honks over at SECrant who have been clamoring how we needed a bigger playoff and that the SEC would "flex their dominance" in it constantly calling this playoff "watered down"

Because it didn't go how they thought and only 3 SEC teams made the playoff with only 1 making it to the semis and none making it to the final.

Now the 4 teamer and even the BCS would be better options :rofl:
 
Wizardhawk said:
Super low chance =/= no chance.

But all of this misses the point entirely. The point was that it doesn't matter if some 3rd tier ranking puts Oregon at the top of their season ending list. That we could end up with a worse team winning it all says it doesn't matter for any season ending rankings, even the AP. We threw all of that out with this playoff system. We get ONE and only ONE champion and national trophy. If you can't survive that tournament you aren't the champion of college football that year.
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100% agree. Ever since the BCS and now playoff format - there is only ONE champion. Everything before that was a voted champion that had all kinds of debate.
 
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