It's also worth mentioning that the majority of his goals were when he was at Edmonton, on a team that was stacked and was basically and all star team with the likes of Messier, Coffey, Kuri, and Anderson and teams had to account for all of them not just Gretzky. Gretzky was great no doubt, but IMO Ovi and Mario Lemieux are/were better, both of them can/could do everything Gretzky did, he couldn't do everything they did. Ovi and Mario can beat you with speed, finesse, skill, and creativity, then turn around and beat you with power and brute force. Not to mention Mario doing it while battling leukemia and going through treatment.
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Yeah, the other teams were so busy keeping a close eye on Glenn Anderson and Pat Hughes that they just lost track of Gretz
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Ovi "can/could do everything Gretzky did"? I don't mean to be rude but are you fucking insane?
For Mario at least one could make some kind of argument.
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I'm still laughing at the idea that the talent on the Oilers drew attention away from Gretzky.
Team Canada was full of stars when they played the Canada Cups. Ask some of the Soviets who they were focused on
Team Canada was full of stars when they played the Canada Cups. Ask some of the Soviets who they were focused on
I perceived "everything" in the context of "scoring goals".
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Although close in era, there are enough differences in what the NHL was like during Gretzky's tenure and Ovechkin's. Yes, for half of Gretzky's career, the goalies sucked. But he also played during the era of two-line offsides and when the NHL allowed all sorts of clutching & grabbing. These things don't cancel each other out completely, but make comparison difficult. I'm content to say Gretzky was the greatest playmaker of all-time and Ovechkin will be the greatest goal scorer.
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That makes more sense.
I do think that many people forget/don't know that Gretz is the all-time leader in short-handed goals.
No one is saying Gretzky isn’t the best all around GOAT. But for pure goal scoring…gimme the Russian Machine
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I can't give an impartial answer to that question, I had a tiny Mike Bossy jersey before I was even going to school for a full day
I do think that the "pure goal scorer" term is often used like the "pure hitter" B.S. in baseball, as a way to prop up or boost an incomplete player.
I’m biased. If you would’ve asked me in 1995 who’s the greatest i would’ve said Peter BondraI can't give an impartial answer to that question, I had a tiny Mike Bossy jersey before I was even going to school for a full day
I do think that the "pure goal scorer" term is often used like the "pure hitter" B.S. in baseball, as a way to prop up or boost an incomplete player.
Kinda want OV to do it on home ice on Thursday but also wouldn’t mind him getting it done on the island tomorrow. #895
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Yeah, they're playing a smart game. Ovie on the PP might be the only way the Caps sneak one through.
