HOF Watermark Qualifiers that need to go away

[Cotton Malone]

Eat my ass, kid.

Precious, however, if you an attractive female, I'll consider it. If you're a male, subconsciously reaching out for homosexual companionship, then I can't help you out. Sorry. Try some of the board liberals. They are 'flexible' that way.

 

[Kburjr]

It's possible I'm being too clever but I think that any player that was active in any season between 2012 and 2016 needs to be excluded from that 18,000 denominator. Not sure how many players that is. Actually now that I think of it every player that began his career after 2001 should be excluded from the denominator since it is impossible for a player beginning his career in 2002 or later to have made the Hall of Fame by 2016 no matter how good he was/is.

When I have more time I'll find something that looks at historical counts of active HoFers and hope I can find it and it's not paywalled (for instance the Schoenfield piece I mentioned before is ESPN).

All good arguments and I need to work on my assumptions. One thing I can see as a modifier is length of career. With the 10 year service rule, that alone eliminates a huge percentage of players from the HOF.

I wonder what the average length of career is for a HOFamer and how that affects distribution.

 

[Guy Incognito]

Kaiks isn't getting to 3,000 hits

Especially now that he's retired.

 

[DragonFromTo]

All good arguments and I need to work on my assumptions. One thing I can see as a modifier is length of career. With the 10 year service rule, that alone eliminates a huge percentage of players from the HOF.

I wonder what the average length of career is for a HOFamer and how that affects distribution.

The 10 year service rule is "fair" in a lot of those cases though. A player who had a 6 season career in the years spanning 1942-51 has already had his opportunity to become HoF eligible and should remain in the denominator. I was specifically talking about guys whose careers began in the last 15 seasons because there is (almost literally) no way for them to be eligible no matter what they do (although I suspect if Mike Trout died thwarting a bank robbery they might waive the 5 years ).

 

[DragonFromTo]

All good arguments and I need to work on my assumptions. One thing I can see as a modifier is length of career. With the 10 year service rule, that alone eliminates a huge percentage of players from the HOF.

I wonder what the average length of career is for a HOFamer and how that affects distribution.

Found it! More historical data on the HoF election and "standards"

Is the Hall leaving out too many players?

With the release of the 2021 Hall of Fame ballot earlier this month, our thoughts turned to the institution of the Hall itself, and particularly this question: Are enough players being inducted? Or too many? What is the right number of players to have in the Hall, anyway? There isn't

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This is the old study it links to

The Hall of Fame’s Standard, and Its Biggest Problem

With the baseball off-season moving into a little bit of a lull, the next few weeks of baseball writing often take on a decidedly Cooperstown-centric swing. Hall of Fame ballots have been mailed to…

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