tOfficial PAC-12 Thread

duckboy33 said:
Honestly, if USC and Oregon start playing up to their recruiting rankings, a lot of the PAC 12s problems will solve themselves.
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Oregon has had teams capable of winning the NCAA tournament in the past 10 years. USC/UCLA look to be quickly ascending to that level as well.


The gap is much larger in football IMO, and it has some to do with the players, but more to do with the coaching. PAC-12 coaches (overall) simply don't do as good of a job in upskilling kids talent as the top programs across the country.
 
Saw that the PAC is now allowing one time intraconference transfers.. good shit..



and I also saw that Bryan Carrington is leaving SC for a Rams role.. at least he lasted longer than Kliff
 
wazzu31 said:
And none of those bowl games are because of Larry Scott. And let’s just toss out a hypothetical and say he is responsible, how in the world is it good for conference that the number 2 bowl game is in San Antonio instead of San Diego?

But a piss poor or even high production of a game on the Pac 12 networks is the exact same as being non televised for 1/3 of our country. Just as the lofty goal of trying to lure Texas, the Network was a great idea on paper. But once the distribution fell through he should’ve gone back to the drawing board. The Network is a national joke because of Larry Scott not having an answer for the word no. It isn’t remotely as successful as the B1G Network which that conference has always been in lock step with the Pacific insert number conference and the Pac 12 has the most eye balls for advertising out of any conference.
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you dont think the Scott had a hand in any of those changes to bowl game lineup? how is it good for one of the higher ranked teams from the conference to play in a more visible bowl? people dont like to stay up for west coast games.

It isnt exactly the same because i remember days of only being able to listen to a game on the radio. or trying to avoid all reports and tickers so that i could watch a delayed airing of a game.
 
OlyDuck said:
you dont think the Scott had a hand in any of those changes to bowl game lineup? how is it good for one of the higher ranked teams from the conference to play in a more visible bowl? people dont like to stay up for west coast games.

It isnt exactly the same because i remember days of only being able to listen to a game on the radio. or trying to avoid all reports and tickers so that i could watch a delayed airing of a game.
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A visible bowl game? Every bowl game is televised as you have posted is a good thing. That isn’t a Larry Scott accomplishment, that is a Sports rights accomplishment which has nothing to do with him.

Sure, everyone remembers a time when there team wasn’t on tv every week. But had Larry Scott, Hellen Keller or been in charged of the Pac 12 that was going to happen.

The most positive thing IMO about Larry Scott is the things the conferences gets laughed at for. He did great things for the Olympic/non revenue sports. Without question all of the non revenue sports for every university prospered. This isn’t me shitting on him, because as I have stated, I don’t think there is a person alive besides maybe President Obama who could forced all of the schools into having one goal regardless of individual schools opinions.
 
wazzu31 said:
A visible bowl game? Every bowl game is televised as you have posted is a good thing. That isn’t a Larry Scott accomplishment, that is a Sports rights accomplishment which has nothing to do with him.

Sure, everyone remembers a time when there team wasn’t on tv every week. But had Larry Scott, Hellen Keller or been in charged of the Pac 12 that was going to happen.

The most positive thing IMO about Larry Scott is the things the conferences gets laughed at for. He did great things for the Olympic/non revenue sports. Without question all of the non revenue sports for every university prospered. This isn’t me shitting on him, because as I have stated, I don’t think there is a person alive besides maybe President Obama who could forced all of the schools into having one goal regardless of individual schools opinions.
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Nice to see you back in this thread after you got torched by claiming the Warriors had no fan support.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
They got a brand new stadium and max out their attendance every game. You're an idiot.
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They got a new arena but not in the same city, so strike one.
They have fans showing up because they came off of a mini dynasty, so that is a TBD but the entire franchises history say once they go back to being continuously bottom of the country those fans will be gone.
You may think I am an idiot but you’re a moron because you just make dumb statements while I back my opinions up with facts. Like it or not, the Bay Area do not support supports. Hippie Berkeley.. no Stanford..no. 49ers…nope, the GS Warriors, semi. But even after the backlash of their 15 fans who were pissed they went Curry then Klay Klay back to back.
 
wazzu31 said:
They got a new arena but not in the same city, so strike one.
They have fans showing up because they came off of a mini dynasty, so that is a TBD but the entire franchises history say once they go back to being continuously bottom of the country those fans will be gone.
You may think I am an idiot but you’re a moron because you just make dumb statements while I back my opinions up with facts. Like it or not, the Bay Area do not support supports. Hippie Berkeley.. no Stanford..no. 49ers…nope, the GS Warriors, semi. But even after the backlash of their 15 fans who were pissed they went Curry then Klay Klay back to back.
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They had sold out seasons before they won a title.

How is moving from Oakland to SF a strike against the Bay Area? You know that SF is inside the Bay Area, right?
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
They had sold out seasons before they won a title.

How is moving from Oakland to SF a strike against the Bay Area? You know that SF is inside the Bay Area, right?
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You do realize that they were not a legitimate sell out pre there dynasty? Individual seasons, sweet, it is your fake narrative you are trying to preach. The Warriors and A’s both have threatened relocation for decades, the 49ers literally did move. Cal and Stanford are Cal and Stanford. I truly don’t understand how someone could look at facts and say they support sports teams unless you are just trying to argue because you are always wrong and just like to see your posts go up.
 
wazzu31 said:
You do realize that they were not a legitimate sell out pre there dynasty? Individual seasons, sweet, it is your fake narrative you are trying to preach. The Warriors and A’s both have threatened relocation for decades, the 49ers literally did move. Cal and Stanford are Cal and Stanford. I truly don’t understand how someone could look at facts and say they support sports teams unless you are just trying to argue because you are always wrong and just like to see your posts go up.
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What would be sufficient attendance for you to claim an NBA team has good fan support?
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
What would be sufficient attendance for you to claim an NBA team has good fan support?
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A team that is in a market like the Warriors are in, to never be at the bottom of the league in attendance per person in their history. Let alone, have to move. You cannot put one legitimate argument that the Bay Area, or any California market is a sports market. Seattle is a terrible sports market as well. Portland is the anomaly on the entire west coast, but it also hasn’t proved it can handle a real major league sport.
 
wazzu31 said:
A team that is in a market like the Warriors are in, to never be at the bottom of the league in attendance per person in their history. Let alone, have to move. You cannot put one legitimate argument that the Bay Area, or any California market is a sports market. Seattle is a terrible sports market as well. Portland is the anomaly on the entire west coast, but it also hasn’t proved it can handle a real major league sport.
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They didn't move because of lack of fan support. They got an opportunity to build a new stadium in a more lucrative area and ran with it.

Also, you can't claim because of what attendance was 20+ years ago that their fan support is forever terrible. Franchises turn things around.

Finally, Portland has done great with the Blazers...a major league sport. Not sure what kind of bullshit you are trying to peddle with that throwaway line.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
With the playoff changes, there is no time like the present to maximize the chances of getting multiple PAC teams in the playoffs.
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duckboy33 said:
Agreed. It's time to start playing the game.
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agreed.. need the Big 12 to do something similar.. I wanted to go to divisions and drop one conference game. However that was under the assumption that the conf champion automatically got a spot in the expanded CFP. Since it doesn't no need to go to divisions.

Negative thing about dropping one conference game, is that the conference will lose some money.. ACC left money on the table when it decided to just play 8 conf games as well
 
Thiefery said:
agreed.. need the Big 12 to do something similar.. I wanted to go to divisions and drop one conference game. However that was under the assumption that the conf champion automatically got a spot in the expanded CFP. Since it doesn't no need to go to divisions.

Negative thing about dropping one conference game, is that the conference will lose some money.. ACC left money on the table when it decided to just play 8 conf games as well
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BYU may be a big winner in the PAC going to 8 conference games. Teams in the PAC are going to be looking for games and there aren't a ton of FBS options without heading east of the rockies.
 
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