New SEC Alignment

[Volbound1700]

What the fuck are you talking about? Auburn has had the hardest SEC schedule since expansion.

We started out having our two permanent opponents being Georgia and Florida.

We’ve regularly played home and home with Clemson over the last 10 years.

You fuckers dodged Army. Army!

GTFO with that BS.

Trust me, if your pods was Alabama, Florida, and Georgia, you would putch a hissy fit.

Now go have the refs bail you out against Georgia State.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Trust me, if your pods was Alabama, Florida, and Georgia, you would putch a hissy fit.

Now go have the refs bail you out against Georgia State.

Trust me if your pod was Alabama, Georgia and Florida your fan base would commit suicide.

Its completely stupid to even suggest a pod of Auburn, Alabama, Florida and Georgia. But I’m not even worried about that because all 4 fan bases would ax that stupidity.

It’s such a moot point it questions your intelligence for even bringing it up.

 

[ELTEXAN]

i actually like the pod system compared to two 8 school divisions. Pods set up for schools to face each other at least once every 4 seasons.. Also there will be permanent crossover games.. that's a total of 4 permanent games for each school, and now have 5 games (conference plays 9 games now) to play other schools from other pods.

If you want a mix, this is the way.

Yeah. We were discussing PODS vs THREE PERM RIVALS, not vs DIVISIONS

 

[ELTEXAN]

Trust me, if your pods was Alabama, Florida, and Georgia, you would putch a hissy fit.

Now go have the refs bail you out against Georgia State.

Your overemphasis on whether “one team’s 3 of 12 opponent difficulty quotient is *currently* tougher than another team’s 3 of 12 opponent difficulty quotient” is laughable.
EG, In the scheme I shared above, Texas plays top 15s, TAMU OU and ARKY. Is that currently harder than other teams’ hypothetical perm rivals? Absolutely. Next year, it’ll be different.
THAT factor is nothing compared to having to lose rivalries that the fan bases enjoy.
And that is also in the context that certain pods will still be “harder” than the others by your definition anyways.
Three per rivals > pods.
QED

 

[ELTEXAN]

Compare our OOC to yours, see how you do.

I’ll compare Texas OOC to anyone else’s going back to the formation of the B12.
As for this year: ranked ULALA and currently top 10 Arky.

 

[OlyDuck]

I’ll compare Texas OOC to anyone else’s going back to the formation of the B12.
As for this year: ranked ULALA and currently top 10 Arky.

luck.
3 years ago that was a laughable non conference and you know it

 

[Volbound1700]

Trust me if your pod was Alabama, Georgia and Florida your fan base would commit suicide.

Its completely stupid to even suggest a pod of Auburn, Alabama, Florida and Georgia. But I’m not even worried about that because all 4 fan bases would ax that stupidity.

It’s such a moot point it questions your intelligence for even bringing it up.

You missed El Texan's post then. Go look at it again. That was my point. You jumped into a thread without understanding the background of my post that you were challenging. .

 

[ELTEXAN]

luck.
3 years ago that was a laughable non conference and you know it

Not luck. I used to keep an OOC list on the old ESPN forums for these discussions. Adding strength of teams then currently played and strength of teams scheduled five years in advance, Texas didn’t bow to anyone.
Im not going to do the research again, but it’s public info.
we play everyone, and we schedule them when they’re at top form.

 

[Thiefery]

Yeah. We were discussing PODS vs THREE PERM RIVALS, not vs DIVISIONS

how many permanent rivals do you need?

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Your overemphasis on whether “one team’s 3 of 12 opponent difficulty quotient is *currently* tougher than another team’s 3 of 12 opponent difficulty quotient” is laughable.
EG, In the scheme I shared above, Texas plays top 15s, TAMU OU and ARKY. Is that currently harder than other teams’ hypothetical perm rivals? Absolutely. Next year, it’ll be different.
THAT factor is nothing compared to having to lose rivalries that the fan bases enjoy.
And that is also in the context that certain pods will still be “harder” than the others by your definition anyways.
Three per rivals > pods.
QED

Pods = Three permanent rivals
QED

There is the idea that I like where instead of 4 pods of 4, you have each team with 3 permanent rivals. But in both cases, once set you have three permanent rivals. Based on your post, I think we agree that each team having 3 permanent rivals is best. But, they will have to be balanced in some way.

The SEC will go to 9 games, and they will find a way for AU, UA, UGA, LSU, UF, TAMU, OU and UT to play each other every other year, or at least twice every 4 years. That will be contingent on a 12 team CFP, but the TV contract will be such that they have to do that and they will be paid handsomely for it. Once the SEC does that, the other conferences will have no choice but to do the same thing. It will make CFB much more enjoyable. Better IC games, better OOC games. No longer required to be perfect to win the NC, so you can play more better teams. What a concept.

 

[huskers1217]

I like the pod system

without even reading..this was my thought. but hard to do without putting OU A&M and texas in the same division.

consider OU - bama - FL - GA as sustainable elites.
then texas - a&M LSU Auburn as 2nd tier elites
3rd tier - Tennesee Arky south car ole miss
finally - mizzou miss st kent vandy

division A - OU, Texas, Arky, Mizzou
division B - Bama - Auburn - Ole miss - Miss St
division c - FL LSU Tennesee Vandy
division d = UGA A&M south car kent

clearly d seems out of place..but fuck it.

 

[ELTEXAN]

how many permanent rivals do you need?

Don’t need* any, I guess. But the discussion here is between three perm rivals VS pods of four.

 

[ELTEXAN]

Pods = Three permanent rivals
QED

There is the idea that I like where instead of 4 pods of 4, you have each team with 3 permanent rivals. But in both cases, once set you have three permanent rivals. Based on your post, I think we agree that each team having 3 permanent rivals is best. But, they will have to be balanced in some way.

The SEC will go to 9 games, and they will find a way for AU, UA, UGA, LSU, UF, TAMU, OU and UT to play each other every other year, or at least twice every 4 years. That will be contingent on a 12 team CFP, but the TV contract will be such that they have to do that and they will be paid handsomely for it. Once the SEC does that, the other conferences will have no choice but to do the same thing. It will make CFB much more enjoyable. Better IC games, better OOC games. No longer required to be perfect to win the NC, so you can play more better teams. What a concept.

Yes. You know the distinction. We all do. Why did you feel the need to try to conflate them and then admit they are different? Weird.

 

[ELTEXAN]

without even reading..this was my thought. but hard to do without putting OU A&M and texas in the same division.

consider OU - bama - FL - GA as sustainable elites.
then texas - a&M LSU Auburn as 2nd tier elites
3rd tier - Tennesee Arky south car ole miss
finally - mizzou miss st kent vandy

division A - OU, Texas, Arky, Mizzou
division B - Bama - Auburn - Ole miss - Miss St
division c - FL LSU Tennesee Vandy
division d = UGA A&M south car kent

clearly d seems out of place..but fuck it.

So you know what DI-vision means?

 

[ELTEXAN]

Still not seeing anything better than THREE PERM RIVALS:

 

[Thiefery]

without even reading..this was my thought. but hard to do without putting OU A&M and texas in the same division.

consider OU - bama - FL - GA as sustainable elites.
then texas - a&M LSU Auburn as 2nd tier elites
3rd tier - Tennesee Arky south car ole miss
finally - mizzou miss st kent vandy

division A - OU, Texas, Arky, Mizzou
division B - Bama - Auburn - Ole miss - Miss St
division c - FL LSU Tennesee Vandy
division d = UGA A&M south car kent

clearly d seems out of place..but fuck it.

UT, ou, ark, Mizzu
LSU, aggy, MS, MSU
Bama, Auburn, TN, Vandy
FL, GA, Ky, SCe

allegedly this is how it will end up.

 

[7samurai13]

How about this
9 conference games
3 permanent rivals and the remaining 12 teams go into two pools of six and rotate every year.

Alabama - Tennessee, Auburn, LSU
Arkansas - Texas, Oklahoma, Tenn
Auburn - Alabama, Florida, Georgia
Florida - Georgia, LSU, Auburn
Georgia - Auburn, Florida SC
Kentucky - Ole Miss, Vandy, MSU
LSU - Alabama, Florida MSU
Miss St - Ole Miss, LSU, Kentucky
Missouri - aTm, SC, Oklahoma
Oklahoma - Ark, Texas, Missouri
Ole Miss- MSU, Kentucky, aTm
Tennessee - Alabama, Vandy, Ark
Texas - Ark, Oklahoma, aTm
Texas A&m - Texas, Missouri, Ole Miss
South Car - Missouri, Vandy, Georgia
Vandy - Tenn, SC, Kentucky

Obviously this is just a quick shoot from the hip but you get the general idea

 

[OlyDuck]

Not luck. I used to keep an OOC list on the old ESPN forums for these discussions. Adding strength of teams then currently played and strength of teams scheduled five years in advance, Texas didn’t bow to anyone.
Im not going to do the research again, but it’s public info.
we play everyone, and we schedule them when they’re at top form.

when was the arkansas game set up? unless it was in 2009- 2011 or maybe in 2015 then no.
and Louisiana when was their top form? last year?

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Yes. You know the distinction. We all do. Why did you feel the need to try to conflate them and then admit they are different? Weird.

Because you said they were different ... I was clarifying your confusing and wrong post. Weird.

You even through in a QED when your equation was wrong. Don't worry, math guy here, I'll correct you where you are wrong.

I would also point out that I doubt everyone here understands the difference between 4x4 pods, and permanent rival pods. I posted the article that lays it out in detail, but not everyone here gives a shit about it.

 

[Thiefery]

when was the arkansas game set up? unless it was in 2009- 2011 or maybe in 2015 then no.
and Louisiana when was their top form? last year?

arkansas game should have been played in 2005, but it kept getting pushed back..all the way to 2021.. But he's right.. UT schedules aggressively with OOC..