Astroworld Festival tragedy

ojb81 said:
wherever i may roam is garbage? through the never is garbage?
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Through the Never and Holier than Thou are ayight.

Not going out of my way to listen to any of it tho.
 
Bender said:
also, i can't get not liking rap.

gza, liquid swords album

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If you remember one wild thing about this album was that all of the song titles were listed in the wrong order so you kinda had to listen to the entire album from start to finish the first time rather than jumping around. And it was totally one of those albums.
 
RP-29 said:
In 1994, I fell in love with Outkast. "Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik" still to this day gives me eargasms. In '96 "ATLiens" solidified them as my personal favorite musical act. They kept it rolling with "Aquemini". When "Stankonia" came out, I loved it, but "Ms. Jackson" got a little too mainstream popular and that was the first time I started to not like anything by Outkast - not because the song was bad, but because it got too popular. "So Fresh So Clean" also subsequently got too mainstream popular and my previously-unfailing love of Outkast started to fail. When Outkast dropped "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below", I immediately did not like "The Way You Move" and "Hey Ya!" primarily because they were instant mainstream pop hits.

Before Disturbed covered "Sound of Silence", they were one of my favorite hard rock acts. When I heard that song in a Burger King one day, I couldn't bring myself to listen to Disturbed anymore.

I tried listening to some newer Eminem stuff, but I just can't. His early stuff was trashing & mocking pop music and I dug it; but when he started doing legit pop hits himself I checked out.

If I'm listening to Metallica, I skip "Enter Sandman".

...I can't entirely explain why, but I cannot like mainstream popular music. It's disgusting to me.
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So you were one of those that railed against the black album as a bunch of sellouts? I knew many of them then. Myself, I always resisted what was popular. But, I couldn’t see it with Metallica. They hadn’t sold out. They built their art up with a slick producer finally. And, yeah, a big part of the aim was to increase air play for them (reducing the length of the songs, for example).

It just never struck me as selling out. Maybe Enter Sandman gets that ire because it was the first release of the sellout.

I’ve always felt there were so many better songs on that album that could have gone first, but they knew the backlash was coming. Might as well make Enter Sandman the sacrifice against that.
 
For a long time I had written Metallica off because Enter Sandman and Nothing Else Matters were the only two songs I had ever heard from them. But somebody introduced me to their early work and I loved it, but I’d take Megadeth’s body of work over Metallica’s
 
Orlando_Eagles said:
So you were one of those that railed against the black album as a bunch of sellouts? I knew many of them then. Myself, I always resisted what was popular. But, I couldn’t see it with Metallica. They hadn’t sold out. They built their art up with a slick producer finally. And, yeah, a big part of the aim was to increase air play for them (reducing the length of the songs, for example).

It just never struck me as selling out. Maybe Enter Sandman gets that ire because it was the first release of the sellout.

I’ve always felt there were so many better songs on that album that could have gone first, but they knew the backlash was coming. Might as well make Enter Sandman the sacrifice against that.
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Nah dude, they sold the fuck out. They even admit it.

The proof? Quite literally, everything they've put out since.


Load was aptly named, for example.


Again, they have not put out anything worth a shit in 30 years.



I am not some fucking hipster. For example, those same people say Mastodon has sold out, and I absolutely love their newer shit. (Love their old stuff too, fwiw)

I was a true dirthead. Black Metallica shirts in highschool, while everyone else was wearing Birkenstocks en shit. Like I said, I waited in line overnight for the fucking album, and that was knowing already that Enter Sandman was shit.

It was an ok album, but a huge letdown, and not even in the same book as their previous 4.
 
beardown07 said:
Nah dude, they sold the fuck out. They even admit it.

The proof? Quite literally, everything they've put out since.


Load was aptly named, for example.


Again, they have not put out anything worth a shit in 30 years.



I am not some fucking hipster. For example, those same people say Mastodon has sold out, and I absolutely love their newer shit. (Love their old stuff too, fwiw)

I was a true dirthead. Black Metallica shirts in highschool, while everyone else was wearing Birkenstocks en shit. Like I said, I waited in line overnight for the fucking album, and that was knowing already that Enter Sandman was shit.

It was an ok album, but a huge letdown, and not even in the same book as their previous 4.
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You heard Sturgill Simpson’s new album yet? Dood and Juanita. Bringing back the concept album. Pretty good
 
I don't listen to Travis Scott music...but dude is super popular...

this whole thing at the festival is an utter disaster, but when you have an out of control crowd out there, you need to figure out a way to stop it. No one going on stage and stopping the show is the big problem here.

I am surprised more shit like this doesn't happen with mosh pits...but I think there is a sort of understanding in a mosh pit.

when it's a crowd rushing the stage like this, you don't know what you are getting into and there is no one looking out for you
 
ill said:
I don't listen to Travis Scott music...but dude is super popular...

this whole thing at the festival is an utter disaster, but when you have an out of control crowd out there, you need to figure out a way to stop it. No one going on stage and stopping the show is the big problem here.

I am surprised more shit like this doesn't happen with mosh pits...but I think there is a sort of understanding in a mosh pit.

when it's a crowd rushing the stage like this, you don't know what you are getting into and there is no one looking out for you
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One of the friendliest places you can be, unless there's a rambo in the audience, but they usually get their just due.
 
beardown07 said:
One of the friendliest places you can be, unless there's a rambo in the audience, but they usually get their just due.
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are "rambos" who are just moshers who are just over the top in the pit?
 
liked rap when i was younger, now i think it sucks for the most part tbh
 
DragonFromTo said:
If you remember one wild thing about this album was that all of the song titles were listed in the wrong order so you kinda had to listen to the entire album from start to finish the first time rather than jumping around. And it was totally one of those albums.
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When I was active duty USAF, I was about a month into my stay at Scott AFB back in '97 living in the young enlisted dorms and I was bumping that album while playing Madden. Some random guy I had never met knocked on my dorm room door and just wanted to chill out and listen to that album with me. ...Two random white young airmen digging the fuck out of "Liquid Swords"...
 
ill said:
are "rambos" who are just moshers who are just over the top in the pit?
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Ya, usually the "tough guy" with his shirt off. :lol:
 
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Hitman Hart said:
liked rap when i was younger, now i think it sucks for the most part tbh
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I mostly listen to the throwback stations on my Sirius XM but there are still a few artists I listen to when a new album comes out.

but there are too many "lil" rappers out there and I am super confused trying to follow them.

and mumble rap sucks ass.

give me The Roots and Wu Tang and the good old stuff.
 
beardown07 said:
Ya, usually the "tough guy" with his shirt off. :lol:
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gotcha

I never ventured into the pit at any shows I went to

but also, these festivals these days are just insane...waaaaaaay too many people
 
ill said:
gotcha

I never ventured into the pit at any shows I went to

but also, these festivals these days are just insane...waaaaaaay too many people
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You couldn't pay me to go to a show like that.
 
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