CFP Top 25 Part 3 Discussion

Voltaire said:
Sorry, I forget that an ohio state education buy you a limited vocabulary.
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Yep. We pay good money over the last couple decades to know that there is practically no "if" when it comes to Ohio State vs Michigan
 
Had the old man crew and wives over last night for Taco Tuesday, dominos and whiskey. We were playing "42" when the rankings came out and one of the guys brought up a good point. He noted that three of the four future Big 12 teams were ranked: #5 Cincy, #14 BYU and #24 Houston. He asked "Do any of us really think those three would be ranked in those positions if they were in the conference this year and playing a Big 12 schedule?" Consensus was Cincy would still be ranked but not undefeated and #5. The other two would be outside the top 25.
 
Deep Creek said:
Had the old man crew and wives over last night for Taco Tuesday, dominos and whiskey. We were playing "42" when the rankings came out and one of the guys brought up a good point. He noted that three of the four future Big 12 teams were ranked: #5 Cincy, #14 BYU and #24 Houston. He asked "Do any of us really think those three would be ranked in those positions if they were in the conference this year and playing a Big 12 schedule?" Consensus was Cincy would still be ranked but not undefeated and #5. The other two would be outside the top 25.
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Which would help show how good the Big Xii currently is (instead of the constant downgrading both internally and externally about the top to bottom toughness of the conference) that the best of the best of the G5 programs would come to the Big Xii and be projected to not do as well as they currently are.
 
Rolltide94 said:
I do not think that resume means what you think it means.


I mean, Oregon opponent beaten win/loss record is 43-47, Ohio State's win/loss record of teams beaten is 39-51, Cincinnati's is 40-60.

It appears you made the exact opposite of the point you were trying to make.
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Not really, but if you think so. @gobigred mentioned the Bama win over Ole Miss on page one. I was referring the win/loss records to that. The media hasn't mentioned another two loss team making the playoff, only Bama. Not Oregon, not Ohio State, just Bama. So, I was just pointing out that if they do in fact make it in, shouldn't the weakness of their opponents' records be considered. Why is the media acting like Bama is the only two loss team that can make it?
 
How realistic is this scenario:

UGA beats Bama
Ohio State beats MSU and Michigan
Utah beats Oregon once

#1 UGA
#2 Ohio State
#3 Cincinnati
#4 Notre Dame

Then UGA beats ND by 3+ TD's.
 
ericd7633 said:
How realistic is this scenario:

UGA beats Bama
Ohio State beats MSU and Michigan
Utah beats Oregon once

#1 UGA
#2 Ohio State
#3 Cincinnati
#4 Notre Dame

Then UGA beats ND by 3+ TD's.
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@ericd7633 I have been preaching about the possibility of ND making it back in. Yes, they lost to Cincy a long time ago. Funny how some media is talking about how head to head matters, and the fact that Ohio State can jump Oregon (based on upcoming ranked teams) and Michigan already jumped Michigan State. ND has beaten Wisconsin and Purdue and some 0.500 teams or one game above. Every team Cincy has faced/beaten has below an 0.500 record except ND and UCF. Cincy played an FCS team also, ND hasn't. I can honestly see this happening. Will it? Probably not.
 
Collegefbfan said:
Not really, but if you think so. @gobigred mentioned the Bama win over Ole Miss on page one. I was referring the win/loss records to that. The media hasn't mentioned another two loss team making the playoff, only Bama. Not Oregon, not Ohio State, just Bama. So, I was just pointing out that if they do in fact make it in, shouldn't the weakness of their opponents' records be considered. Why is the media acting like Bama is the only two loss team that can make it?
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Well, I guess when you win half the National Championships for more than a decade and have the top recruiting class in most years that is the sort of benefit of the doubt that you've earned.
 
Rolltide94 said:
Well, I guess when you win half the National Championships for more than a decade and have the top recruiting class in most years that is the sort of benefit of the doubt that you've earned.
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I agree there, but this ain't last year's team. Those past teams weren't being discussed as a two loss CFP team either.
 
Collegefbfan said:
I agree there, but this ain't last year's team. Those past teams weren't being discussed as a two loss CFP team either.
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Of course not, we've never had so few P5 unbeatens this early in the season before.

There have usually been at least 3 unbeaten P5's and at least one unbeaten G5 and a bunch of 1 loss P5's going into week 12.

This year there are only 1 unbeaten P5 and 1 unbeaten G5 and 9 1-loss P5's and most of them play each other, some more than 1.

After Week 11 in 2019 we had 5 unbeaten P5's and 8 1-loss P5 teams and 5 1-loss G5 teams and a lot of the marquee games like Alabama-LSU had already happened.

The only reason it is being discussed now is that there is a strong possibility that we run out of 1-loss contenders.

I don't think Alabama should get in over a 1-loss P5 conference champ, but over a 1-loss Cincinnati...absolutely.
 
Georgia's opponents are a combined 62-57. They have been awesome against a mediocre schedule. Can't wait for the SEC championship game to see where they are actually at.
 
ericd7633 said:
How realistic is this scenario:

UGA beats Bama
Ohio State beats MSU and Michigan
Utah beats Oregon once

#1 UGA
#2 Ohio State
#3 Cincinnati
#4 Notre Dame

Then UGA beats ND by 3+ TD's.
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I really think they'd put 2 loss Bama in over ND. Would take UGA completely blowing them out to change my opinion on that.
 
Rolltide94 said:
Of course not, we've never had so few P5 unbeatens this early in the season before.

There have usually been at least 3 unbeaten P5's and at least one unbeaten G5 and a bunch of 1 loss P5's going into week 12.

This year there are only 1 unbeaten P5 and 1 unbeaten G5 and 9 1-loss P5's and most of them play each other, some more than 1.

After Week 11 in 2019 we had 5 unbeaten P5's and 8 1-loss P5 teams and 5 1-loss G5 teams and a lot of the marquee games like Alabama-LSU had already happened.

The only reason it is being discussed now is that there is a strong possibility that we run out of 1-loss contenders.

I don't think Alabama should get in over a 1-loss P5 conference champ, but over a 1-loss Cincinnati...absolutely.
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There are 2 unbeaten G5's (UTSA)

Your overall point is spot on though.
 
Wishbone said:
Georgia's opponents are a combined 62-57. They have been awesome against a mediocre schedule. Can't wait for the SEC championship game to see where they are actually at.
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I get where you are coming from, but as a poster posted above:

Oregon's opponent beaten win/loss record is 43-47, Ohio State's win/loss record of teams beaten is 39-51, Cincinnati's is 40-60. Ours will get worse as we are basically done with Charleston Southern and GaTech to go.

We've beaten teams by 7 (Clemson) and then 49, 27, 62, 37, 24, 17, 27, 37, 24. Other than the first game against Clemson, not a single one of our games has been in doubt at half-time. We've not struggled with any team that we should have beaten ... no other teams can say that.

On average, the teams we play score 23 points per game less than their average.

We are the only team in the top 10 in both offensive and defensive efficiency. Our D will do just fine against the better offensive teams, while our O is far better than many people think. And the teams I presume you think are better than mediocre ... how are the D's?

I am one who gauges teams based on where they were at the end of the season not during the season. That said, Clemson, Auburn, Arkansas, and Kentucky were all top 10 when we beat them and broke them. That's all we can do ... beat the shit out of everyone on our schedule ... some teams that I presume you think are better than mediocre should try doing that instead of struggling with lesser talented teams.

But, I do get where you are coming from when you look at the schedule at this point in the year.
 
Red_Alert said:
There are 2 unbeaten G5's (UTSA)

Your overall point is spot on though.
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UTSA is a good story and until recently I had a personal connection, so I was pulling for them, but no Conference USA or Sun Belt team is likely to make the playoffs in my lifetime.
 
Voltaire said:
If you are smart ... I post on here which means I have a ways to go before I reach smart. I was smart enough not to vote for Biden.
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