Lincoln Riley to USC

Shanemansj13 said:
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After all that has happened over the past 10 days, I am now grateful for the Dysfunctional XII's reluctance to ease OU's speedy exit from the conference. Even with all the current players hitting the transfer portal, OU still has the horsepower to be in the running to win the conference championship next season. Caleb Williams staying would nearly guarantee it but if he does bolt, my best guess is the team will be coached up enough to more than hold their own on D and a serviceable QB can be put on the field to manage games. If that happens, we won't be flashy but the motto will have to be "Just Win Baby". If Venables could patch together a team that wins the conference, then the recruiting situation will shift back to a major positive again. This next season is huge.....maybe the biggest in a long time.
 
Since his hiring and the hoopla around that for two days, I haven’t heard anything more about Riley and USC. Nor have I heard of him flipping any big name recruits within the conference
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
It’s gonna be interesting to see how Riley handles a team that isn’t already in great shape when he takes over. Stoops retired when OU was already a contender, Riley just needed to not fuck it up. I just don’t think he’s the right guy to build a program and change the culture. USC is a lot like Tennessee, the recruiting classes have been pretty good, but the culture is just shitty and soft, and Riley is soft too.

I’m saying he’s gonna get 4 years, but people are gonna want him gone after 3
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NFL talent wise, SC is in just as good of shape as Oklahoma was when he took over. Since the Pete Carroll days SC has had an issue with having NFL players play to their talent level in college.
 
wazzu31 said:
NFL talent wise, SC is in just as good of shape as Oklahoma was when he took over. Since the Pete Carroll days SC has had an issue with having NFL players play to their talent level in college.
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Guarantee you there were more NFL players on the 2017 Oklahoma team that there is now at USC
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
Guarantee you there were more NFL players on the 2017 Oklahoma team that there is now at USC
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way too many people underestimate the importance of player development. 99% of 5*s and high 4*s aren't ready for the NFL when they arrive to college and they still need proper coaching and guidance to make that leap to the next level. There also isn't an on and off switch. I'm guessing a lot of the guys on USC's roster that were rated highly in HS are now damaged goods.

the idea that that 2021/22 USC is any way comparable to 2017 Oklahoma is comical. Riley replaced a HOF coach at Oklahoma, he's replacing something named Clay Helton at UC.
 
We will see how much USC puts up with from this guy.

trojanswire.usatoday.com

It's Lincoln Riley's show, but USC has to know where to draw the line

Yes, Lincoln Riley deserves near-total control of #USC football. He shouldn’t have a babysitter. However, he does need to be told when a line is crossed. Will that happen?
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es, Lincoln Riley deserves to run USC football as he sees fit.

He wouldn’t have come to Heritage Hall if he wasn’t given a wide berth by Mike Bohn and Carol Folt. In fact, Riley likely took this job precisely because he saw a looser administrative structure than the one he had at the University of Oklahoma. It wasn’t the main reason he moved to Los Angeles, but it was one of several factors that brought him to the Pac-12 and the West Coast.

By all means, Riley should get to make the decisions at USC. Bohn should be hands-off for the most part, asking Riley what he can do to accommodate and what he can do to support his new coach. No one would disagree with that larger approach or philosophy.

However, as in any part of life and any theater of activity, there are always limits. Always. There have to be. Riley is the leader of the USC program now, but he’s not a messiah or emperor-god. He still has to play by the rules, or at least some rules.

There are already signs he is going beyond the bounds of what should be expected or allowed.

One notable story from Monday was that Roy Manning, Riley’s OU defensive backs coach, will join him at USC.

Manning was the subject of an intense recruiting controversy in recent weeks, involving prospect Domani Jackson.

Here’s our story on that series of events:

It’s not a confirmed fact, but the reporting from that story (from Oklahoma reporter Jason Kersey of The Athletic) offered at least the appearance that Manning was recruiting Jackson for USC while still employed by Oklahoma. Manning’s name was removed from the Oklahoma coaching directory this past weekend.

Manning, if he did recruit Domani Jackson for USC while being paid by Oklahoma, committed a serious ethical violation. Riley allowed that to happen. USC should have signed Manning to a contract before allowing him to (continue to) recruit Jackson.
USC employing Manning is not how this process should have been sequenced. It’s a bad misstep, the kind of thing that erodes respect and trust from other schools and other people in the business.
This is where Bohn has to step in. He has to make sure things are done the right way. It doesn’t mean Riley can’t or shouldn’t get what he wants if it’s reasonable. It means that if Riley gets what he wants, there’s a right way and a wrong way, an ethical way and a less ethical way, to go about it.

Bohn doesn’t need to be a nanny or babysitter for Riley. He does, however, need to intervene so that these kinds of ethical missteps don’t recur. USC doesn’t need them. Riley doesn’t need them. Bohn doesn’t need them. There’s no positive value from them.
There is always a limit, always a line to be drawn at some point. USC and Bohn have to be willing to draw that line with Riley. We need to see timely intervention — not a lot of it, but some — when it is absolutely necessary.
 
"In fact, Riley likely took this job precisely because he saw a looser administrative structure than the one he had at the University of Oklahoma."

Well, no shit. Joe the Hun runs a tight ship. One of my friends has been pretty happy Muleshoe was hired at USC but she dropped something in the conversation a few days ago that made me smile. "I just hope he doesn't get us put on probation". Now I see others at USC have that funny itch they're trying to ignore about this guy. LMAO Ya never know.....but sometimes a change in environment lets a person's real character show itself. I doubt Oregon and the other West Coast schools will hesitate to hold back if Muleshoe starts playing funky monkey.
 
 
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